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hey guys im looking into completing my build in the next week or so, i wanted to know if you could help me decide on a graphics card for about £200?

note - it will be used for gaming so i'd prefer it to be able to max out the games and also be futureproof as i don't exactly have the money to throw out all the time

any help is appreciated, thanks in advance
 
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It's up to you,it's probably more about the performance difference between the gpu's than the cpu's,concentrate on that ,
I5+gtx760 no big cpu cooler
or i5 ~r9 270 (overclock the crap out if it)+cpu cooler.
or fx8320+gtx 770.,best option looking at the gpu.With the cooler is overclocking possible,how far..?
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Gtx 770 will play games at max on 1 monitor. I have one in mine and i love it. if you want to use more than 1 monitor then id recommend the 760 4gb. i have issues when using 2 screen on some games but its nothing serious and its only when im pushing it really hard.
 
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wait? the 770 is for £200 at the moment? D:
 
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760 is fine. a phone will max out minecraft:p BF4 no. you will be able to play every thing on fairly high settings though. Also dont get the liquid cooler. its expensive and less effective than a good coolmaster or noctura. also you risk it leaking and frying your stuff which has happened to a lot of people
 
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well, personally i was only getting the liquid cooler due to the reviews i'd been reading and the fact it looks so much cleaner compared to a huge hunk of metal in the middle of your pc with a little fn on it, currently im running a cm air cooler but i do intend to heavy overclock, though this cpu have at the moment has been over clocked to 4.8GHz with good temps, load and idle, i was mainly getting it or the aesthetic purpose, the performance i would be getting would just be a bonus, the gtx 760 i've been reading good reviews where its been pumping out goodd fps on ultra settings(though without aa of af) then again i can almost max out bf4 with a hd7770 just setting one or two things to high, and i still get about 40-50 fps baring in mind that i did have to turn aa and af off
 
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I don't see why you want a fx 6300 when you can get a i5 4670K for about the same price,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£89.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£179.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £532.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-05 19:58 BST+0100)

you could get a nice cooler later and overclock then.If you still want a better cooler than the stock one for now get the next,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps10xoptima
 
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well tbh i was just sticking with the AMD cpu because i havent really had any experience with overclocking intel cpu's though i heard its harder,also i heard the amd 6300 was about the same performance just a fair bit cheaper (hough intel are better at single core performance than amd - or so i heard) also i have an aftermarket air cooler, though i just wanted the liquid cooler for the looks (also hear that they perform better than air )
 
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Intel CPUs aren't harder to overclock...
 
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If you're looking for an inexpensive video card that can run most current games like Batman Arkham Origins, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed: Black Flag and Far Cry 3 (all games I've run on max settings) I'd look into the new Nvidia 750 cards. I picked up a 2GB GTX 750 ti for about $160 on Amazon, put it into the PCI-E slot and it's handled everything I throw at it with pretty decent frame rates at the highest settings. And my system is about as budget as you can get. The nicest thing about the 750 "Maxwell" cards is that they're small and don't need separate power from the PSU, it runs right off the mobo's power. On the down side it's not SLI compatible which would really put this over the top if it were. I haven't bothered benchmarking anything because I figure that as long as it looks good and plays good I could care less about numbers. The only game I had any kind of lag with was Assassin's Creed 3 when there were a lot of fires, explosions and about 50 characters all fighting each other on screen at one time. And there was just a minor stutter for a few seconds and then it went back to normal.
 
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For a comparison,
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=837
in this next one a slightly lesser i5 but with game benchmarks,
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=702
the fx 6300 should be really compared with the i3's considering it's price.



Use this one if it fits.
And which one actually?

 
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currently i have one of the coolermaster hyper tx3 evo i think it is, its a good wee cooler for the price i will say, though i thought it'd be better with the liquid cooling for high overlock?
 
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i've been mainly looking into the 760 range and the r9 270/270x gpu as of late i hear they're quite good?
 
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It's an oké little cooler,but if you want to overclock right now would a better one be adviced.Why overclocking right now anyway,the cpu won't bottlneck at this moment.For the stock settings would the tx3 be a good alternative to the stock cooler,maybe louder though.



For a nice budget card will the r9 270X be a good choice.The gtx 760 is better,but also costs,most of the times,a lot more.When you compare price/performance is imo the r9 270X the best choice.

If you don't mind taking a r9 270 (explain later) could you get a really nice cooler in the build i already made,just to show the possibility,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£49.31 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£89.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card (£128.75 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £531.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-06 13:11 BST+0100)

I saw the ram,with the noctua you'll be fine,with the other coolers mentioned will you maybe have to switch to low profile heatspreaders on the ram or better said get ram with low heatspreaders.


About that r9 270,

This r9 270 is imo just a lower clocked version of the r9 270X.
There are two differences between the r9 270 and the r9 270x,
1) the first uses normally only one pcie power connector.
2) the first one has lower clocks.
the rest is the same.

This r9 270 i chose uses two power connectors and has just lower clocks.Seeing that you don't mind a bit of overclocking could you probably get it to run at r9 270X levels,but overclocking isn't an exact thing so i can only guess.The extra power should be helpfull imo.
A thread about this gigabyte r9 270 and overclocking,
http://www.overclock.net/t/1449757/gigabyte-r9-270-overclocking-ability

For other nice and cheaper coolers the next,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc12dxrd
the same different color scheme,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc12dx
or,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xigmatek-cpu-cooler-primesd1484
 
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so, for a budget would i be better off going intel or amd for the gaming i intend to do? (i'm doing a complete overhaul of my previous system which is getting me quite high fps and great performance i just thought it'd be better for someone else who only intends to use it for minecraft and studying :p)
sspecs are as follows - amd 4300 oc'd to 4.5GHz
msi 970a-g43 mobo
6gb ram 1333MHz
corsair 430 psu
amd hd7770 msi pmd1the rest i'll be keeping, though i may still keep the mobo even though it has a bad reputation for overclocking due to the vrm's overheating (i think that is what it was) though i've had no issues, in fact quite the opposite, then again it seemed to only be on the higher cpu's using a 125w tdp

should i change that and get another mobo too?
(the only reason i was asking about the intel stuff was because i'm not sure if there is other differences other than benchmark speeds though the motherboard colourschemes are nice - msi z87 gaming mobo)
 
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With a system like that you could possibly just change the gpu and psu and be fine.You could spend more money on the gpu than.
For a difference between an intel and amd cpu,
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/700?vs=701
the 3570K instead of the 4670K because with this one are there game benchmarks included.Almost all game benchmarls are played above 60fps anyway,whichever cpu is used.Only starcraft2 is under with the amd and yours is overclocked.

Don't know how it is with the 6gb's of ram? Is that 4+2 or 2+2+1+1...,in the first case maybe nice to add 4+2 of the same ram.
 
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well, i actually intended on giving the leftovers of that build (4gb ram, gpu, cpu, psu ) to the missus ya know, but i was intending on getting an extra 8gb ram so it would be 4+4+2+2 (12gb) then using the mobo i have and getting the 6300 and a 500w psu and a new gpu (maybe the gtx 760/770) but if i went intel i'd be spending a hell of a lot more, though i wouldn't mind if the performance increased and it was marinally better for gaming etc, though if not i'd probably stay amd haha
 
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If you go for amd that's fine,just don't go for that expensive cooler with it.That's why i started about intel.You probably could get the same performance out of the intel@stock instead of having to overclock the crap out of a fx 6300.

If you want to really upgrade to amd get a fx 8core+new motherboard ,
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3n7Tj
or go for the intel build with the gpu you like .Which one depends on the need for a better cooler now.Wit the tx3 that you have not really necessary at this moment.

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4gb ram, gpu, cpu, psu ) to the missus ya know, but i was intending on getting an extra 8gb ram so it would be 4+4+2+2 (12gb)
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this doesn't add up with the original 6gb's you said you had.

6gb ram 1333MHz
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crap, wasn't thinking haha, she'd be getting 4gb and i'd be buying an extra 2gb to make up the rest (4+4+2+2) hmm, i think i'll go with the amd 8320 and new mobo (cheaper option) since i need to save some cash to buy some new games (though i may need a motherboard recommended as i've sifted through tonnes of reviews about different ones and i seem to come up with nothing :(
 
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just saw the suggestion now, hmm looks okay, i'll mull it over and let you know on wednesday as thats when i'm buying it all
 
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It's up to you,it's probably more about the performance difference between the gpu's than the cpu's,concentrate on that ,
I5+gtx760 no big cpu cooler
or i5 ~r9 270 (overclock the crap out if it)+cpu cooler.
or fx8320+gtx 770.,best option looking at the gpu.With the cooler is overclocking possible,how far..?
 
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well, i know the 8320 can go a minimum of 4.5-5.0GHz, then you have to get some heavy cooling
 
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