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Nvidia GTX 650 TI (2GB) vs AMD R7 250 (2GB)

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April 5, 2014 12:30:50 PM

Hey all,
What GPU should I get?

The GTX 650 TI 2GB:

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-2048MB-Graphics-02G-...

The AMD R7 250 2GB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I may not get that exact card, but it will be an R7 250.

What should I get?
According to GPU Boss the R7 is better.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-250-vs-GeForce-GTX-65...

They tie here:

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1866&gid2=...

I will be getting the 2GB ver.
Most games to this date can not access more then 2GB of VRAM, so I do not need more.
I do not need the best GPU out there.
All I do is Photoshop, Lightroom and light gaming.
I do not have much money and I would like to stay under $130 USD.
I can NOT afford to get the best! :) 

I'm getting a new PSU soon, so power is not a problem.

I have an Asus P5N-D MOB. It's not the newest, but it does the job. :) 

If you can recommend a better card that fits under $130 USD that would be great.
Thanks! :) 
a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 12:33:40 PM

I would get the R7 250X, even though i'm more of an Nvidia fan. But, for this case, the Amd makes more sense
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 12:38:27 PM

I used to like Nvidia, but my AMD GPUs are out performing my Nvidia GPUs.
They are cheap AMD cards too. I have updated all of the drivers and stuff on the Nvidia cards, but the AMD still is faster.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 12:42:56 PM

Yeah, and AMD cpus are really fast, but really cheap. I might change my build to an AMD themed one because they're that good. Bt, I work at intel, so I wouldn't want to upset my co-workers. BTW, what is your build?
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 1:03:57 PM

It's a little old but it is:

Intel E8400 3.00 GHz with 6MB of cache.

Asus P5N-D MOB.

8GB of Kingston RAM with heat sinks.

Samsung EVO 840 SSD.

WD 500GB HDD.

WD 80GB HDD

HAF 912 case (tons of cooling)

PSU to come.....

Windows 7 64-Bit
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 1:23:24 PM

Yeah, i would definitely upgrade to haswell and some asus mobo. Also, save enough money to get a 770 or 780, or an AMD card
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April 5, 2014 1:33:42 PM

It depends on the games you'll be playing:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-250x-grap...

Overall though, the 250X is a redressed 7770, so a little slower than a GTX 650 Ti, which is more equal to a 7790.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/2...
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 1:35:25 PM

Why isn't the titan black there?
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April 5, 2014 1:39:53 PM

mamamia13 said:
Why isn't the titan black there?


simply because when GTX750 Ti/750 comes out Titan black is not out yet
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 1:40:09 PM

Most likely an old graph.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 1:41:33 PM

17seconds said:
It depends on the games you'll be playing:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-250x-grap...

Overall though, the 250X is a redressed 7770, so a little slower than a GTX 650 Ti, which is more equal to a 7790.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/2...


Do you really think the extra $50 for the GTX 650 is worth it?
Anything is better then my GPU right now. Even the GT 640!
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 1:42:00 PM

thats what I thought
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April 5, 2014 1:50:28 PM

Nathan Willis said:
17seconds said:
It depends on the games you'll be playing:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r7-250x-grap...

Overall though, the 250X is a redressed 7770, so a little slower than a GTX 650 Ti, which is more equal to a 7790.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/2...


Do you really think the extra $50 for the GTX 650 is worth it?
Anything is better then my GPU right now. Even the GT 640!

As of March 4th (the most recent review at TPU), the GTX 650 Ti was nearly the #1 bang for the buck card you can buy.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_290X_P...
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:12:32 PM

I think I will go with R7 250.
Right now I'm running something worse then a GT 640 and the GTX 650 Ti is only better then the R7 250 by 3%.
I do not think 3% is worth the $50.
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April 5, 2014 2:19:15 PM

Nathan Willis said:
I think I will go with R7 250.
Right now I'm running something worse then a GT 640 and the GTX 650 Ti is only better then the R7 250 by 3%.
I do not think 3% is worth the $50.

According to the chart, the difference is more like 17%. The GTX 750 is more like 25% faster for $120 and uses half as much power.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:22:56 PM

17seconds said:
Nathan Willis said:
I think I will go with R7 250.
Right now I'm running something worse then a GT 640 and the GTX 650 Ti is only better then the R7 250 by 3%.
I do not think 3% is worth the $50.

According to the chart, the difference is more like 17%. The GTX 750 is more like 25% faster for $120 and uses half as much power.


I think it's the 750 Ti you're refering to.
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April 5, 2014 2:33:22 PM

sunder25 said:
17seconds said:
Nathan Willis said:
I think I will go with R7 250.
Right now I'm running something worse then a GT 640 and the GTX 650 Ti is only better then the R7 250 by 3%.
I do not think 3% is worth the $50.

According to the chart, the difference is more like 17%. The GTX 750 is more like 25% faster for $120 and uses half as much power.


I think it's the 750 Ti you're refering to.

What exactly is that chart alleging to illustrate?
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:34:58 PM

17seconds said:
sunder25 said:
17seconds said:
Nathan Willis said:
I think I will go with R7 250.
Right now I'm running something worse then a GT 640 and the GTX 650 Ti is only better then the R7 250 by 3%.
I do not think 3% is worth the $50.

According to the chart, the difference is more like 17%. The GTX 750 is more like 25% faster for $120 and uses half as much power.


I think it's the 750 Ti you're refering to.

What exactly is that chart alleging to illustrate?


Performance difference between the 750 TI and the gtx 750
From http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-g...
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April 5, 2014 2:37:08 PM

In any event, Lightroom uses CUDA acceleration, so this little exercise could have been an open and shut case from the start.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:38:00 PM

oh nevermind i thought you replied to my post, was all speared up and ready to defend my statement.
sorry lol:p 

In any case i'd get the r7 260x if i were op
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April 5, 2014 2:39:07 PM

sunder25 said:
17seconds said:
sunder25 said:
17seconds said:
Nathan Willis said:
I think I will go with R7 250.
Right now I'm running something worse then a GT 640 and the GTX 650 Ti is only better then the R7 250 by 3%.
I do not think 3% is worth the $50.

According to the chart, the difference is more like 17%. The GTX 750 is more like 25% faster for $120 and uses half as much power.


I think it's the 750 Ti you're refering to.

What exactly is that chart alleging to illustrate?


Performance difference between the 750 TI and the gtx 750
From http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-g...

Are you sure you're responding to the correct thread? This one is comparing an AMD 250 to a GTX 650 Ti.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:41:24 PM

17seconds said:

Are you sure you're responding to the correct thread? This one is comparing an AMD 250 to a GTX 650 Ti.


"If you can recommend a better card that fits under $130 USD that would be great.
Thanks! :)  "

The r7 260x
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April 5, 2014 2:43:31 PM

sunder25 said:
17seconds said:

Are you sure you're responding to the correct thread? This one is comparing an AMD 250 to a GTX 650 Ti.


"If you can recommend a better card that fits under $130 USD that would be great.
Thanks! :)  "

The r7 260x

It's already been done numerous times in this thread.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:46:59 PM

All i saw was 250x being mentioned.
I just suggested something better under the op's limit.
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April 5, 2014 2:53:22 PM

sunder25 said:
All i saw was 250x being mentioned.
I just suggested something better under the op's limit.

You must be selectively reading only some of the posts.
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 2:57:30 PM

17seconds said:
sunder25 said:
All i saw was 250x being mentioned.
I just suggested something better under the op's limit.

You must be selectively reading only some of the posts.


I dont think so, in any case there's been some wire crossing.
I'd love it if you could point it out to me, thanks.
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April 5, 2014 5:13:10 PM

Those websites you're linking are terrible for gauging real world performance. Game Debate doesn't do anything but compare specs on two cards with different architectures. That's literally comparing apples and oranges. It doesn't work that way. On paper, that's how they look, but how do they compare in the real world?

You're also comparing a 250x to a GTX 650. In your original post, you mentioned the GTX 650 Ti, which is a faster card than the 650 non-Ti.

Go to an actual review website. I used a chart from TechPowerUp because they average out 16 gaming benchmarks. They also use the latest drivers and retest every card for each review. They are the makers of GPU-Z and one of the most thorough and respected review sites on the web.

Have you looked at the fact that Lightroom takes advantage of CUDA acceleration? That might be something to consider.

In the end, its your money and I hope you've gotten all the info you need to make the best decision. Good luck!
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 5:33:53 PM

It all depends on my budget. I want the GTX 650 TI. I will have to see!
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April 5, 2014 5:43:22 PM

Can we buy any one of these Graphic Cards for GA-880GM-UD2H. Previously i used HD 4670 Series 1 GB DDR3.

Can i use DDR5 Graphic Card for this GA-880GM-UD2H Model !

Suggest Me !
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 5:54:43 PM

Yes, you can use GDDR5. Your MOB will support the R7.
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April 5, 2014 6:00:40 PM

Nathan Willis said:
Yes, you can use GDDR5. Your MOB will support the R7.


Thank you, only R7 will support or any DDR5 Graphic Model will support my GA-880GM-UD2H Motherboard Model, which i used DDR3.

Mine is AMD Phenom X6 1055T
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a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2014 6:13:21 PM

You can use any GPU with GDDR5. The RAM type and the VRAM are completely different. :) 
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April 28, 2014 7:25:20 AM

Nathan Willis said:
You can use any GPU with GDDR5. The RAM type and the VRAM are completely different. :) 


Thank you, Can you suggest me Good one from AMD under $200


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a b U Graphics card
April 28, 2014 9:06:36 PM

Are you asking about a GPU, CPU or something else?
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April 29, 2014 2:32:07 AM

Graphics Card !
One of my friend from AMD suggest me to go with Sapphire AMD/ATI V4900 ? is it worth it and i can see different price.

I using for Adobe and not for Gaming !
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a b U Graphics card
April 29, 2014 6:16:54 AM

I would go with this even though it is overbudget, it will be worth the price.
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