video graphics upgrade

seoulfox · Apr 6, 2014

I have an HP 500-023w desktop that I would really love to upgrade to a good graphics card to run world of warcraft very well. Any recommendations? Also, do I need to upgrade the power supply as well? If so, what would fit my computer?

i7Baby · Apr 6, 2014

Looks like it's Joshua (?) mobo has one PCiE2.0 slot. But it only has a 300W power supply. Even a GTX 750Ti with only a 55W TDP needs 450W. The i3-3240 should be OK. So you'd have to also upgrade the PSU.

MalakiArtook · Apr 6, 2014

You only have a 300w PSU so yes you willneed to upgrade if you want to put in a GPU this is what i would recomend

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $184.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-06 02:20 EDT-0400)

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

above listed is a good option.

But for a similar price you can get a R9 270 which will blow the GTX 750Ti out of the water and crush it for a similar price. Tough it draws much more power, for gaming and performance it is much more worth it over the GTX 750Ti. Just get a 550W PSU and you'll be set.

MalakiArtook · Apr 6, 2014

unknownofprob :

well at that point he might as well get a 760 for an extra $20, The 750ti is a great card and will run any game you throw at it for a unbeatable price.

I guess we should ask what is your price range?

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

MalakiArtook :

true, but some R9 270's cost close to the GTX 750Ti and your looking at the R9 270 being the better option by about $50

i7Baby · Apr 6, 2014

A R9 270 is a better performer for about another $30. You'd need a 450+W PSU for it. The 760 is even better but for another $100. It'd need a 500+W PSU.

seoulfox · Apr 6, 2014

Ok, that's a lot of info to take in. First off, it is a Joshua. Price range I am looking at is roughly about $200, so those suggestions will definitely work. I just don't know much in this department about computers. So the PSU that you suggested would fit my computer with no problem?

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

hang on, what is the pin connection for the motherboard, most of the time, HP have special pin connections for motherboards which prevents PSU upgrades, you may have to upgrade motherboard/GPU and PSU if that's the case.

i7Baby · Apr 6, 2014

The page on your PC says the PSU is ATX (normal) size - 150mm x 140mm x 86mm (5.9 x 5.5 x 3.4 inches). eg Corsair RM550 is 150 x 160 x 86mm. The Corsair 160 dimension is it's length. The width and height should be OK. But you'd have to measure inside your case to check that it'd fit.

i7Baby · Apr 6, 2014

Yep you could be right about the connector types. See http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c03770775#N1293 for a photo of the mobo. If that's the case its a waste of time pursuing this. You'd need a new mobo too.

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

i7Baby :

that's what I thought, HP always do that.

You'll need a new motherboard/PSU and GPU for a sufficient upgrade

seoulfox · Apr 6, 2014

Well I have no idea about the motherboard, I've never gone this far into a computer before. I'm pretty much new to all of this. Is there a PSU that works with the connectors I have or do I really have no other choice than to upgrade all 3?

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

you'll have no choice but all 3.

seoulfox · Apr 6, 2014

Also, for someone who has never done this before. How do I know which motherboard will work in my compy?

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

I can give you a suggestion for all 3 that works, as i have done several times before. Just check that it's under ATX size, same socket as our CPU, and the will always have the same pin as those ATX PSU's. That's the basics for a motherboard upgrade. Make sure it has DDR3 Ram slots and 1 PCI-E X16 Slot for your graphics card and your set.

seoulfox · Apr 6, 2014

This is going to be a lot more work than I originally anticipated. If you have suggestions for all 3 that are compatible with my computer that are not getting too far out of hand on the price range. I would really appreciate the suggestions as I already have with everything else I have learned tonight.

MalakiArtook · Apr 6, 2014

something like the Z77A should be good. can someone confirm that?

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

MalakiArtook :

Lets keep it to a little cheaper mate.

This is what you need and you have to make sure everything fits and is the right size, which I can confirm this.

Motherboard: ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 $69.99; Same uATX (Micro ATX) form factor as before/same ram type (DDR3)/same socket and support for your CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

PSU: Corsair CX500 500 Watt PSU 3-year warranty $49.99; Same pin as motherboard and right size for case also. Great as it has plenty of watt headroom in case of further upgrade later on.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

GPU: MSI 7770GHz edition 1GB GDDR5 128-Bit $94.99; This card is nothing over the top, nor a useless weak card either. The 7770 is the best card out there for the price and was the first graphics card to break the 1000Mhz core clock record. It features GDDR5 memory and 128-bit memory interface, pretty good for the price. For a build like yours don't get just a good graphics card but make it a balanced system so that's why I recommend a 7770. It'll run WoW very well mind you and others also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687

Total cost: $214.97

Overall, pretty good upgrade for the price with capability of upgrades in the future.

seoulfox · Apr 6, 2014

Thanks so much for all of the help guys. For a noob to the inside of computers like me, this has been an unbelievable help! Thanks again everyone!!

unknownofprob · Apr 6, 2014

your welcome, if you have any other questions or need any other advice, just ask and we'll gladly help.

seoulfox · Apr 12, 2014

Ok, so I bought and replaced everything in my computer that was suggested above. Now when I try to turn my computer on, everything starts running (fans, lights, etc.) the only problem is I have no display so I can't see anything on a monitor. I'm a little baffled as to why everything suggested doesn't give me a monitor?

unknownofprob · Apr 13, 2014

Are you still using the same HDD? There will be conflicts by just connecting up your old HDD and expecting it to work, you may have to wipe it in order to boot.

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