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April 6, 2014 2:38:50 PM

I am on a budget and want a good cpu for gaming and other needs. I am designing my entire build on watch dogs, which is apparently a very processor heavy game. Ubisoft recommends an 8 core processor.
What would be better, an overclocked fx 8350 or an i5 4440?

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April 6, 2014 2:46:43 PM

Following that one, until we get actual benchmarks I am not ready to answer the question. Min requirement is low with the E8400 which is an old dual core so an I5 should be good.
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April 6, 2014 2:52:15 PM

Yes, minimum. But i dont want to play this game on low graphics..
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April 6, 2014 2:55:45 PM

I'm confused. How can you afford to overclock the 8350 but only get a 4440?

What's your budget for the CPU + Mobo?
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April 6, 2014 2:55:54 PM

c45tor said:
Yes, minimum. But i dont want to play this game on low graphics..

Well I was actually pointing to the I5 being many times stronger than the E8400 without answering your question.
This is what I would get in anticipation of that game http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3 an I7 in disguise.

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April 6, 2014 3:06:48 PM

I'm confused. How can you afford to overclock the 8350 but only get a 4440?

What's your budget for the CPU + Mobo?


Now that I think of it, that is a very good question.. I wasn't thinking about the extra bucks for the mobo.
By budget is around 600€, mobo + cpu around 200-250. This is my first build, i am kinda worried that it wont be good enough ;) 

Sorry for the funky replying, on my phone and there is no easy button for answering
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April 6, 2014 3:09:35 PM

No worries.

My point was that with the 8320 you'll need a good 990FX motherboard (8+2 power phase), a decent CPU cooler (possibly an NH-D14 or something of the sort) and the 8320 itself. Whereas you could just pair the i5 4440 with a B series motherboard.

I would expect an i5 4440 to outperform an FX 8320 clocked to 4.5GHz (quite a high overclock) in most games.
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April 6, 2014 3:14:08 PM

Well, i guess i'm going for the i5, or maybe the xeon rolli recommended if i can afford.
Might have to play watch dogs on medium settings after all ;) 
I still find it weird that they recommend an 8 core processor..
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April 6, 2014 3:16:53 PM

c45tor said:
Well, i guess i'm going for the i5, or maybe the xeon if i can afford.
Might have to play watch dogs on medium settings after all ;) 
I still find it weird that they recommend an 8 core processor..


Hence my first answer, is going to be interesting to see when we get benchmarks.
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April 6, 2014 3:22:12 PM

Its because the games are becoming very mutli threaded expect much more of this in the future since ps4 and xboxone are weak 8 core systems so when they are making the game which trust me its a console game first. Thats what they will use to port the game. Instead of the way old gsmes were made using one or two stronger cores. Xbox 360 was tricore so the games made from it reflect that low number but strong core to run games. The best example would be skyrim play it on an intel cpu its screams because the strong single core on a fx8350 while still playable and fine its no where near as high fps. But now take crysis 3 bf4 multithreaded games and the 8 core does really well because they were built for them.
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April 6, 2014 3:25:07 PM

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Its because the games are becoming very mutli threaded expect much more of this in the future since ps4 and xboxone are weak 8 core systems so when they are making the game which trust me its a console game first. Thats what they will use to port the game. Instead of the way old gsmes were made using one or two stronger cores. Xbox 360 was tricore so the games made from it reflect that low number but strong core to run games. The best example would be skyrim play it on an intel cpu its screams because the strong single core on a fx8350 while still playable and fine its no where near as high fps. But now take crysis 3 bf4 multithreaded games and the 8 core does really well because they were built for them.


True. Though those multithreaded games are still reliant on having strong single-core performance in some situations. The main thread offloads some lesser work onto the subthreads. Considering developers would have to code in a completely different way I'd expect it to be a few years until multithreading is ironed out.

In the meantime, the quad core i5s still match or outperform the FX's even in games that utilise up to 8 cores.
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April 6, 2014 7:30:37 PM

It really comes to price i got my fx8350 with a free h70 for 170 buck then my sabretooth 990fx r2.0 for 165 on sale( god i love microcenter). And it has been nothing but good to me. Paired it with two xfx hd 7950's @ 1150/1600(180 bucks a piece after rebate) now my frame rates are throuh the roof once you get this high up it doesnt really seem to matter if its 100 or 150fps i only have a 60 hz screen. I guess what im saying is that price to performance should always be the number one factor. And buy the best gpu you can it makes the biggest difference. But if you are rocking a 7970 or lower at 1080p the fx will give you better than 60fps in almost everything. But if it costs more than the other your wasting your money. I mean im getting a 100+ fps in mutliplayer on bf4 with the fx 8350 @4.5 so it must be doing something right.
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April 7, 2014 6:23:31 AM

I envy you Americans and your good prices. :p 
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April 7, 2014 12:05:57 PM

Those were all sales i was extremely lucky
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April 7, 2014 12:29:24 PM

you don't need an 990FX board to overclock an 8320 CPU, i have a gigabyte 970a-UD3P (89$) and this board feature an 8+2 all digital power phase with high quality VRM's and moffsets...and for the CPU cooler i use a hyper212 evo (29$) and it keeps the temps under 50c easily at all time..i reach 4.4ghz with no overvoltage on the chip, i highly recommand this thing will run watch dogs at maximum settings for the lowest cost possible.
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