How long will the GTX 780TI last me?
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Jan Holdinar
April 7, 2014 9:00:36 AM
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Jan Holdinar
April 7, 2014 9:08:59 AM
My 780 ti at 1080p on Ultra currently doesn't play everything at 60 fps.
Metro: Last Light will dip even with SSAA off, and it always is below 60 with SSAA on low
Crysis 3 will never even get to 60 fps with everything maxed out. I can do 60 but things have to come down.
That's just the nature of playing the latest graphically intensive games. To actually max everything for a few years, you still need to SLI the highest-end cards. It's just out of reach for most people, and all you really get is AA. Not to downplay that, since really good AA can make things look really nice, but is it worth an EXTRA $700? No to me. I personally can't tell the difference after playing for a bit, especially when not sitting too close.
Your best bet is still to go with the 780 ti. No matter what you do, things will develop around you. When you buy in, you buy into a specific moment in time, and your purchase is stuck there. That's just the way it is, man. Don't let that bother you too much, though. The 780 ti kicks ass! Just make everything look as good as you need, ad try not to worry about trying to always max settings for the sake of maxing them.
I mean, the 780 ti will let you use fully-maxed settings as a starting point. You'll be able to safely assume that you can run anything maxed. But from there, you'll have to occasionally make minor adjustments down in order to preserve smooth play. The adjustments will be minor, and you'll likely have to switch back and forth multiple times before you notice a difference at all. You really can't go wrong with the 780 ti right now if you have the money.
Another option is to wait until the new 800-series cards come out at the middle or end of the year, but I wouldn't suggest it. Cards come out with locked down chips. The 780 has the same gpu as the 780 ti but is still 20%-30% slower. It just because the 780 ti is the unlocked version. That took over a year and a half. If you wait for the fully-unlocked Maxwell, you'll likely wait for more than a year. Right now, the 780 ti is the fastest single-processor gaming card in the world. There's no arguing with that, and you won't be sorry you got it. The card performs pretty well.
Metro: Last Light will dip even with SSAA off, and it always is below 60 with SSAA on low
Crysis 3 will never even get to 60 fps with everything maxed out. I can do 60 but things have to come down.
That's just the nature of playing the latest graphically intensive games. To actually max everything for a few years, you still need to SLI the highest-end cards. It's just out of reach for most people, and all you really get is AA. Not to downplay that, since really good AA can make things look really nice, but is it worth an EXTRA $700? No to me. I personally can't tell the difference after playing for a bit, especially when not sitting too close.
Jan Holdinar said:
Than what graphic card should I buy for 750€ that will last me that long cuz i dont wana buy a new GPU whit that price next year.Your best bet is still to go with the 780 ti. No matter what you do, things will develop around you. When you buy in, you buy into a specific moment in time, and your purchase is stuck there. That's just the way it is, man. Don't let that bother you too much, though. The 780 ti kicks ass! Just make everything look as good as you need, ad try not to worry about trying to always max settings for the sake of maxing them.
I mean, the 780 ti will let you use fully-maxed settings as a starting point. You'll be able to safely assume that you can run anything maxed. But from there, you'll have to occasionally make minor adjustments down in order to preserve smooth play. The adjustments will be minor, and you'll likely have to switch back and forth multiple times before you notice a difference at all. You really can't go wrong with the 780 ti right now if you have the money.
Another option is to wait until the new 800-series cards come out at the middle or end of the year, but I wouldn't suggest it. Cards come out with locked down chips. The 780 has the same gpu as the 780 ti but is still 20%-30% slower. It just because the 780 ti is the unlocked version. That took over a year and a half. If you wait for the fully-unlocked Maxwell, you'll likely wait for more than a year. Right now, the 780 ti is the fastest single-processor gaming card in the world. There's no arguing with that, and you won't be sorry you got it. The card performs pretty well.
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Could i play next-gen games for like 3 years from now on ultra... 60 fpsAbsolutely! a 870TI will have zero issues getting 200FPS on games released in three years... at 640x480 (though likely much higher) resolution.
For a real answer: No. I say no because I expect multi-monitor or 1440P/4K/other resolution to really hit the mainstream within next few years and historically no GPU has ever been able to run ultra settings at the new resolutions a couple years after launch. Crysis is case in point - it had been out over a year before any GPU could get close to decent framerates at ultra settings.
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April 7, 2014 9:16:59 AM
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By "specifcally to work" I think you mean just lowering the resolution and turning settings to low with AA off. It's the same thing you can do with any PC game on your own. A 780ti will be more powerful now, tomorrow, and 4 years from now than any current console.yes i mean specifically to work how do you think they get bf4 to work on a xbox 360 witch has half the computing power of my cell phone and a puny 512mb of ram they dont get games like bf4 and gta 5 to run on a 360 by just turning down the AA.
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Just get a GTX780 non ti for 500$ you get 12/14th the performance of a ti for much less money and overclock it, as stated before metrol LL and crysis won't even run maxed out on any single gpu card ATM and im sure some other games will come out that will demand just as much, all you have to do is set to highest settings and turn down aa a bit to like 2xMSAA and you get good image quality an very goor framerates, to think about the future PC gaming is not meant to think like that, otherwise buy a PS4..and enjoy low settings, 30 fps, and awful motion blur..
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Just get a GTX780 non ti for 500$ you get 12/14th the performance of a ti for much less money and overclock it, as stated before metrol LL and crysis won't even run maxed out on any single gpu card ATM and im sure some other games will come out that will demand just as much, all you have to do is set to highest settings and turn down aa a bit to like 2xMSAA and you get good image quality an very goor framerates, to think about the future PC gaming is not meant to think like that, otherwise buy a PS4..and enjoy low settings, 30 fps, and awful motion blur..Well every call of duty game since 4 has run at 60fps on last gen consoles and bf4 runs at 60fps on the ps4 and xbox one and me and my friend compared bf4 side by side one maxed out on pc 1080p the other xbox one which runs at 720p and if i sat you down and asked you to tell me which one is pc and which one is the xbox one i gurantee you couldent tell the diffrence so maybe you should really sit down and think about what a 700 dollar graphics card really gets you.
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paitjsu sadff said:
Just get a GTX780 non ti for 500$ you get 12/14th the performance of a ti for much less money and overclock it, as stated before metrol LL and crysis won't even run maxed out on any single gpu card ATM and im sure some other games will come out that will demand just as much, all you have to do is set to highest settings and turn down aa a bit to like 2xMSAA and you get good image quality an very goor framerates, to think about the future PC gaming is not meant to think like that, otherwise buy a PS4..and enjoy low settings, 30 fps, and awful motion blur..Well every call of duty game since 4 has run at 60fps on last gen consoles and bf4 runs at 60fps on the ps4 and xbox one and me and my friend compared bf4 side by side one maxed out on pc 1080p the other xbox one which runs at 720p and if i sat you down and asked you to tell me which one is pc and which one is the xbox one i gurantee you couldent tell the diffrence so maybe you should really sit down and think about what a 700 dollar graphics card really gets you.
HAHAHA come on man you're so funny, BF4 runs at low/medium settings on PS4, i have it running at 80fps on all ultra settings with 4xMSAA and supersampling to 115%, if you would sat in front of this you wold shit on your pants and never believed what you just said...they are 2 different games from a quality stand point
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BF4 PC vs XO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpLAv_msLB4
BF4 PC vs PS4
http://n4g.com/news/1383133/battlefield-4-pc-vs-ps4-gra...
From playing less graphically intensive games like Borderlands 2, I can say for sure that the YouTube version of the gameplay is by far worse than what you see on a nice monitor plugged directly into a high-end video card. The console's a little closer to the video, but even the console would have better quality seen at the source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpLAv_msLB4
BF4 PC vs PS4
http://n4g.com/news/1383133/battlefield-4-pc-vs-ps4-gra...
From playing less graphically intensive games like Borderlands 2, I can say for sure that the YouTube version of the gameplay is by far worse than what you see on a nice monitor plugged directly into a high-end video card. The console's a little closer to the video, but even the console would have better quality seen at the source.
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It depends how much you want to spend/what resolution,etc....I spent 300 on my hd7950 and am quite content, I play everything on 1080p ultra, and no it's probably not constantly 60fps but I'm very satisfied with it. I think a 780ti will be overkill for 1080p for some time to come as long as you don't care about maxing every little thing out on Crysis 3/Metro....
Maybe it's just me but I consider those to be redbox style games anyway, where you'd either rent them if you had a console for a day or 2 and beat them or catch them dirt cheap on steam/origin sales and play through them once and be done with it
just no replay value to me, but I guess that's all subjective >_>
And I don't think the consoles look like PC on ultra......the consoles are on 720p or 900p on lowered settings with other tricks. A gaming pc will pay for itself pretty quickly, I know mine has more than paid for itself due to all the cheap pc games on various sites for sale I watch and snag one I like on sale.
Maybe it's just me but I consider those to be redbox style games anyway, where you'd either rent them if you had a console for a day or 2 and beat them or catch them dirt cheap on steam/origin sales and play through them once and be done with it
just no replay value to me, but I guess that's all subjective >_>
And I don't think the consoles look like PC on ultra......the consoles are on 720p or 900p on lowered settings with other tricks. A gaming pc will pay for itself pretty quickly, I know mine has more than paid for itself due to all the cheap pc games on various sites for sale I watch and snag one I like on sale.
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