do i really need a 650w power supply for a 432w build?

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zeph_yr

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Components can use more than their rated amount and it's never a good idea to run a power supply at 100% usage, it will be very hot and it will age very quickly. 650 might be a little overkill, but I wouldn't go below 550w.
 
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like this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nM7Z
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Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nM7Z/by_merchant/
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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1199.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Switch out the ssd for the 120 or 128 version to allow the money for the keyboard and the mouse.
 
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zeph_yr

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You could get a GTX 780 if you get rid of the unlocked processor and matching motherboard, and get a cheaper case.
 
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this is my first build, I don't think I'll be overclocking it, and i don't really need to anyways. also, the more RAM the merrier!
 
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Welcome to the 21th century, RAM isn't anything as it used to be. Instead of spending extra $80 on RAM, get SSD, that will be more merrier than all of the RAM in the world. :)
 
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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1174.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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i5 4670k, 120GB SSD and a GTX 780 :)
 
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Yeah, more RAM won't do anything if it's never being utilized. It can actually slow the processor if you have a ton of it. The most ram I've ever used on my desktop is 7gb, and that's with multiple chrome tabs, spotify playing, skype, photoshop, and illustrator open simultaneously.
 
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zeph_yr

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Go with the build Ekagori posted above. It's much better. But let me point out the bad parts of your revised build anyway:
- Core i7 is barely any better than a core i5 for gaming. Get a 4670k and save a ton of money.
- You will want an even amount of ram sticks, so it can run in dual-channel mode. 2x4gb, 2x6gb, etc.
- That SSD is really small and has low performance. Get a 120gb.
- 2TB is a lot for only gaming. I would only get more than 1TB if you plan to store movies/pictures on it.
- That video card is incredibly weak. Like, you won't be able to play games on higher than medium settings weak. With the money saved from the stuff above, get a GTX 770 or 780.
 
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What is the purpose of your build? Gaming? Rendering? Compiling Code? Because it seems you are all over the place with components. With your current build you have handicapped your gaming experience by going overkill with the cpu and skimping on the gpu. 12GB of RAM is not necessary unless you are doing heavy rendering or compiling of code which might use up that RAM, but if you're adamant on getting tons of RAM, go for it, it is your money. If you're going to get an LGA 2011 cpu at least get the 4930K which gives you 6 cores and 12 threads, otherwise a 4770K is better for 4C/8T performance over the 4820K because of Haswell's IPC improvements. There isn't really much point in spending $40 on a cache SSD when an extra $40 buys you a 120GB SSD in which you can install your OS and use the 2TB drive for game storage. The power supply is good, Antec platinum rated, but for $10 more I'd go for a 750W Gold rated XFX Pro which will give you more flexibility to upgrade in the future and you only lose about 2% efficiency or drop $20 and get a Gold rated 550W supply.

This is of course my opinion on your build, what I think you should do is decide what you want to use your pc mainly for and then pick parts that will maximize your performance.
 
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otisriedel

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it's a build for gaming, and it will be my first build. I edited it some more, but nothing major. I got the CPU I chose because it has a higher GHZ rating than the others. after looking at the 4770k, I think I will go with that. I will mess around with the storage to get the right SSD and HHD for what I can afford. do you have a motherboard that you could recommend to be paired with the 4770k? also, for my wattage of 320, 750 is easily overkill. however, when you tell me that it was only $10 more, I can't pass up that bargain!
 
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I modified your build to give you both the 4770k you want, a decent mobo, a gtx 770 and changed the ssd to samsung evo at the same price because Kingston's V300 are known to have some performance issues if you get an older revision.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.50 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Antec Two Cool 140 Blue 33.6 CFM 140mm Fan ($9.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Lenovo PREFERRED PRO FULL-SIZE Wired Standard Keyboard ($29.00 @ Mac Mall)
Mouse: Rosewill RGM-1000 Wired Laser Mouse ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1264.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 19:20 EDT-0400)

Just so you know, as of today a 4770k will not give you any major gaming advantage over the 4670k which is cheaper. Only a couple of games take advantage of the extra 4 threads that a 4770k offers, otherwise, games don't really scale well being 4 cores. Now this may all change in the future once games scale better beyond 4 cores, I just want you to be aware of this fact before you purchase your rig.
 
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