will this be enough for heavy gaming and video rendering?

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Processor : Intel Core i7 4770
Mainboard: ASRock B85 KILLER
Hardisk : seagata 1TB sata3
Memory (Ram) : Team Elite DDR3 PC12800 1600Mhz Dual Channel 8GB (2X4GB)
DVD : RW 22X
Graphic (VGA) : geforce gtx 770
Casing : Cooler Master K282 GAMING CHASSIS SIDE WINDOW
power supply: 550w superflower
ssd: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB

not planning to over clock (since i dont know what it is, how to do it, and i heard it can damage the components)
the games i will be playing are battlefield 4, bunch of new games from steam too, and a few dayz and rust. a little game like amnesia too, just for nostalgia lol

i'll be playing while recording, and then editing through vegas pro, and then uploading it to youtube.
while waiting for it to be done (the upload to youtube), i will be running photoshop to make thumbnails for youtube, ORRR maybe play some more while recording again

hahaha i dont know if this will be enough, so i need your help guys!what do you think? thank you!
btw, loving the forum here. so helpful
 
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Whats your budget?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($267.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1110.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 12:44 EDT-0400)

If no OC Xeon E3-1240 V3 is a better option, it's same as i7 and it's cheaper also 16GB 1866MHz CL9 RAM would give you better performance in video editing
 
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With what you're wanting to do, that's a great setup. The i7 is perfect for editing and when streaming/recording, and the 770 will get you max settings in BF4. The only thing I would change is the HDD, get something from Hitachi or WD; Seagate has a pretty high failure rate.

Good build :)
 
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What would you recommend to replace the ram with? As long as it doesnt exceed 75$ I can manage

Also thank you for the recommendation for the HDD! I will change it like you said :D
 
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That RAM is on sale now and it's cheaper than some 1600MHz kits, save up some money and get 16GB kit it will give you great performance increase in your need! :)
 
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ohh okay then how about this?

Processor : Intel Core i7 4770
Mainboard: ASRock B85/Z87 KILLER
Hardisk : hitachi 1TB sata3
Memory (Ram) : Corsair CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10B (1 X 8GB)
DVD : RW 22X
Graphic (VGA) : geforce gtx 770
Casing : Cooler Master K282 GAMING CHASSIS SIDE WINDOW
power supply: 550w superflower
ssd: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB

because I'm tied to my budget, i can't buy the 16gb ram right away. i pick the 8GB instead of the (2x4)GB so that i can just add one RAM later. is that possible? to add another ram after the build is done, i mean.
and can you please tell me if the parts pick is compatible and good for vide editing/gaming please? thank you! :D
 
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make sure you have good internet as streaming will be internet dependant. Also, not sure if you can do it now but having faster hard drives a la ssds will help rendering a lot. You'll be fine for now but having dedicated SSD's to my videos has helped me tremendously.
 
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my internet speed is only 6Mbps at the moment :(

as for the ssd, I'm going to do the RST thingy. i'll be opening the video editing program a lot, so i hope it can recognize it and make it faster
 
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Motherboard in your build has 4-DIMM slots so if you can't get 16GB now, I would recommend you 2x4GB 1866MHz CL9 RAM, later you can add second same model RAM and have total 16GB.
Also all components are fully compatible :)
Last thing I would recommend you WD Blue 1TB which costs like ~60$

P.S. You have good connection (IMHO) :D mine is 12 times slower than yours
(Download ~512kbp/s, Upload ~256kbp/s)

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Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $137.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 23:29 EDT-0400)
 
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okay then, my build will be like this :D
Processor : Intel Core i7 4770
Mainboard: Z87 KILLER
Hardisk : shitachi 1TB sata3
Memory (Ram) : Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 (2 X 4GB)
DVD : RW 22X
Graphic (VGA) : geforce gtx 770
Casing : Cooler Master K282 GAMING CHASSIS SIDE WINDOW
power supply: 550w superflower
ssd: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB

probably the heaviest moment of using this computer will be when I'm uploading to youtube, and playing while recording at the same time lol
 
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i made another thread on another category too and thats what people suggest... should i not do it then? what mb is better for me if I'm not planning to use a cpu that can be over clocked then?
the reason i picked 4770 instead of 4770K is because i dont know how over clock works, i dont know if its gonna do me any good in what I'm gonna do, and because i heard it can damage the components :| sorry for the trouble, I'm just not an expert at this.
if the motherboard is already perfect for me, then should i change the cpu instead? into a 4770K?
 
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then what should i get? why not 4770?
can you recommend me something?
 
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Either get the 4770k and Z87 motherboard, or save a whole lot of money and get the Xeon e3-1230v3 and a B85 or H87 motherboard.



For the record, I do NOT think overclocking is worth the extra money. You will save at minimum $125 by not trying to overclock. That money could get you a 240GB ssd or a much better video card.
 
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sorry but i asked why not the 4770, people been saying that it is really good, and i dont get the reason why i should get xeon e3 instead of the 4770 instead since 4770 is faster
 
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The Xeon is essentially the same thing as the i7, as it has hyperthreading, and the decrease in 0.2 GHz clock speed is negligible.

However, if you're going with the Z87 board, I would get the 4770k, a good cooler, and overclock it as far as can go, as it will greatly help you for video editing/rendering.
 
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The 4770 is a great cpu, it's just not a great value. The Xeon e3-1230v3 offers 99% of the performance of the 4770, but it's $65 cheaper. Is 100mhz/200mhz worth $65 to you? You'll never ever notice the difference.


I try to help people get the most for their money.
 
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hmm... i thought the i7 is much better... sorry man I'm not trying to disrespect your opinion or anything, its just that many said that i7 is better, and many also said that xeon is the better one. I'm going to leave the computer on for like 16 hours a day for the whole holiday coming (I'm graduating), and I'm not sure which cpu is the best for this kind of heavy use (gaming while recording, video editing/rendering, gaming while recording while uploading, or video editing while recording. yeah ._.)
it really does seem that xeon would be best, since I'm not gonna over clock or anything. but I'm still not quite sure since i haven't really got a grasp on this whole hyper thread thingy that xeon has over the i7
 
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sorry man I'm not trying to disregard your opinion, it is really appreciated, honest! I'm starting to think of getting the xeon instead. just need to know more about it (the advantages it has over the i7 other than the price). also about the motherboard, not really sure whats the best for the xeon 1230 v3. and I'm not even sure all the parts I've chosen (other than the motherboard since thats still blank) will be compatible with it or not
 
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The e3 1230v3 and i7 4770 are almost exactly the same. They are both quad cores with hyperthreading. They both have turbo. They both have the same amount of cache. They use the same exact motherboards. Any LGA1150 motherboard will work.

The only differences between the two are

-The Xeon does not have integrated graphics.
-The Xeon uses less power and runs slightly cooler.
-The Xeon is clocked 100mhz/200mhz lower
-The Xeon supports but does not require ECC RAM
-The Xeon has a few more instruction sets like FMA3, EM64T, and F16C
 
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You certainly will notice the difference between a Xeon at 3.2 and 4770k at 4.5 if overclocked in video editing/rendering. For gaming, almost no difference, but Photoshop and Vegas Pro will certainly see a difference.



If you're not going to overclock the Xeon would be best. The Xeon and i7 both have hyperthreading. The difference is that the Xeon is geared more towards server use, and is more able to handle 24/7 operation under load. The price difference you see is the Xeon doesn't include the integrated graphics chip like the i7 does.

The Xeon/i7 have 4 physical cores, and 8 logical threads. What hyperthreading does, is set up an additional logical thread per core, and executes two threads per core. In applications like Photoshop and Sony Vegas, what this does is run thread 'A', and when that is done and it's searching for its next process, the core runs thread 'B' so as to not waste time waiting. It's really just a much more efficient way of utilizing processor power than normal, since there is little to no lag time.
 
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well, I'm gonna be using an ssd too, so i think xeon would work for me. reading all those stuff about over clocking breaking your pc is scary for me, so i guess xeon it is. would a z87 killer motherboard work, or is there a better one? and how about other components that i chose? will those work good, or, again, is there a better one?
sorry for taking all your time guys, you guys have been really helpful
 
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