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April 8, 2014 11:16:53 AM

Hey I'm a newbie at building PCs (in fact I've never built one) so I need some help on what the parts for it should be.

Budget Range: $400-500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet and video editing.

Are you buying a monitor: No I already have one but it's old so I could use suggestions for a new good one.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any website really

Location: City, Kansas, USA

Overclocking: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: Not sure sorry.

I have a keyboard and mouse but like the monitor there old so if you have suggestions for new ones I'll take 'em. Thanks!

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April 8, 2014 11:23:49 AM

what resolution is your monitor? it's tough to buy a gaming rig for that price... b/c the video card on most gaming rigs will be at least $250.
youre more lookin at a budget rig.

something like an AMD fx6300 (about $100), whatever ATX am3+ motherboard you can find on sale (about $50), GTX750 (about $100), 8gb ddr3 1600 ($60), 500w 80+ bronze power supply ($50), cheap raidmax case ($30), 1tb WD 7200rpm hard drive ($60)
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April 8, 2014 11:28:43 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Danbuscus250/saved/4j7v
CPU AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core $109.99
Motherboard MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Combo or $65.91
Memory Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Combo or $30.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $57.98
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB $179.99
Case Sentey CS1-1420 PLUS ATX Mid Tower $19.99
Power Supply Corsair 430W ATX12V $19.99
Total: $476.84
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April 8, 2014 11:35:08 AM

This MSI board is very bad and known for high VRM failure rate.
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April 8, 2014 11:38:45 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $561.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 14:38 EDT-0400)
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a b C Monitor
April 8, 2014 11:38:58 AM

this board is just fine with the 6300, which is under the max tdp. it also has many positive reviews on it.
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April 8, 2014 11:40:14 AM

RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $561.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 14:38 EDT-0400)


nice build, but over budget.
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April 8, 2014 11:42:48 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $490.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 14:42 EDT-0400)

Thought it said $600 so changed a few things.
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April 8, 2014 11:48:03 AM

Danbuscus25 said:
this board is just fine with the 6300, which is under the max tdp. it also has many positive reviews on it.


It doesn't matter, it has cheap MOSFETs and is know for high faliure rate because of it. Check this out if you don't believe me: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-.... Just because MSI have a list on their website saying it supports the FX-6300 doesn't mean it is safe. Also the Asrock Extreme3 is know for VRM issues with 8 cores FX chips, that causes it to throttle down and decrease performance, I don't know how well does it perform with a 6300 though. But just to be on the safe side, you can replace either of the two suggested boards with an 970 chipset Asus or Gigabyte boards which well be much better and safer and I do believe there are boards from either companies that will keep the build in budget, and even if it gets a little over the budget, it is better to get a decent motherboard than cheaping out and ending up with a fried motherboard that may as well take the processor with it when it dies.
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April 8, 2014 11:48:28 AM

nice, pretty much the same as my build, but with different mobo and case.
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April 8, 2014 11:51:32 AM

RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $490.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 14:42 EDT-0400)

Thought it said $600 so changed a few things.


On this build it says there might me an issue in compatibility.
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April 8, 2014 11:52:55 AM

AnEwG said:
Danbuscus25 said:
this board is just fine with the 6300, which is under the max tdp. it also has many positive reviews on it.


It doesn't matter, it has cheap MOSFETs and is know for high faliure rate because of it. Check this out if you don't believe me: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-.... Just because MSI have a list on their website saying it supports the FX-6300 doesn't mean it is safe. Also the Asrock Extreme3 is know for VRM issues with 8 cores FX chips, that causes it to throttle down and decrease performance, I don't know how well does it perform with a 6300 though. But just to be on the safe side, you can replace either of the two suggested boards with an 970 chipset Asus or Gigabyte boards which well be much better and safer and I do believe there are boards from either companies that will keep the build in budget, and even if it gets a little over the budget, it is better to get a decent motherboard than cheaping out and ending up with a fried motherboard that may as well take the processor with it when it dies.


eh, fair enough, although that website didnt say it was known for problems, it just warns against OCing. but, if you wanna get a better board to be on the safe side then go ahead
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April 8, 2014 11:54:42 AM

Ethan127 said:
RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $490.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 14:42 EDT-0400)

Thought it said $600 so changed a few things.


On this build it says there might me an issue in compatibility.


where it says you may need to update bios for vishera chips, that is very unlikely. and it also says that the mobo has usb 3.0, but the case does not. i would get a different case that does have usb 3.0
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April 8, 2014 11:57:40 AM

Danbuscus25 said:
Ethan127 said:
RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $490.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-08 14:42 EDT-0400)

Thought it said $600 so changed a few things.


On this build it says there might me an issue in compatibility.


where it says you may need to update bios for vishera chips, that is very unlikely. and it also says that the mobo has usb 3.0, but the case does not. i would get a different case that does have usb 3.0


Okay thanks.
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April 8, 2014 12:01:38 PM

Danbuscus25 said:
AnEwG said:
Danbuscus25 said:
this board is just fine with the 6300, which is under the max tdp. it also has many positive reviews on it.


It doesn't matter, it has cheap MOSFETs and is know for high faliure rate because of it. Check this out if you don't believe me: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-.... Just because MSI have a list on their website saying it supports the FX-6300 doesn't mean it is safe. Also the Asrock Extreme3 is know for VRM issues with 8 cores FX chips, that causes it to throttle down and decrease performance, I don't know how well does it perform with a 6300 though. But just to be on the safe side, you can replace either of the two suggested boards with an 970 chipset Asus or Gigabyte boards which well be much better and safer and I do believe there are boards from either companies that will keep the build in budget, and even if it gets a little over the budget, it is better to get a decent motherboard than cheaping out and ending up with a fried motherboard that may as well take the processor with it when it dies.


eh, fair enough, although that website didnt say it was known for problems, it just warns against OCing. but, if you wanna get a better board to be on the safe side then go ahead


It doesn't just say avoid for overclocking, it says it is known for problems. MSI boards on AM3+ platforms especially the lower end boards are pretty poorly designed and should be avoided at all costs. I have only found that out after getting mine otherwise I would have bought a Gigabyte UD3P or An Asus 5a97 pro board.
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April 8, 2014 12:10:26 PM

So I saw this build somewhere else and thought it looked good. Do you think it would be a good build for my needs? I know it's a little over the budget but I think I can handle it. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ohd9
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April 8, 2014 12:42:13 PM

Ethan127 said:
So I saw this build somewhere else and thought it looked good. Do you think it would be a good build for my needs? I know it's a little over the budget but I think I can handle it. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ohd9


That build is worse. No upgrade path, weaker CPU and GPU. Also the case on my build has no usb 3.0 bit it does have usb 2.0 ports on the front. If you want to use usb 3.0 you would just need to plug it in at the back.
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April 8, 2014 1:25:59 PM

RazerZ said:
Ethan127 said:
So I saw this build somewhere else and thought it looked good. Do you think it would be a good build for my needs? I know it's a little over the budget but I think I can handle it. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ohd9


That build is worse. No upgrade path, weaker CPU and GPU. Also the case on my build has no usb 3.0 bit it does have usb 2.0 ports on the front. If you want to use usb 3.0 you would just need to plug it in at the back.


Okay. Well what about austinnotduncan.com/builds/proton/ it costs about $450 and seems pretty good. One of the few APU builds out there.
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April 8, 2014 3:35:14 PM

Ethan127 said:
RazerZ said:
Ethan127 said:
So I saw this build somewhere else and thought it looked good. Do you think it would be a good build for my needs? I know it's a little over the budget but I think I can handle it. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ohd9


That build is worse. No upgrade path, weaker CPU and GPU. Also the case on my build has no usb 3.0 bit it does have usb 2.0 ports on the front. If you want to use usb 3.0 you would just need to plug it in at the back.


Okay. Well what about austinnotduncan.com/builds/proton/ it costs about $450 and seems pretty good. One of the few APU builds out there.


DO NOT go with any APU build for gaming.
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April 8, 2014 4:03:46 PM

i agree, apus are meant for htpc's, business computers, etc.
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April 8, 2014 6:36:44 PM

Alright APU=bad. Learned a lot from you guys thanks.
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April 9, 2014 7:11:37 AM

no problem, and apus arent bad in general, just for gaming and high cpu intensive tasks :p 
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