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Rookie Builder !! GTX 460 too old or usable ??

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April 9, 2014 9:34:40 AM

I am working on gathering information for a future build i want to do , it would be for strictly gaming/surfing. I have an older built PC now with this card in it ASUS ENGTX460 (FERMI) and i would just like to know if this card would be ok to keep and use or would it be better to sell this card for what i could and get a better replacement . I am going to use the fx 8350 cpu and asus m5a97 motherboard.

thanks for any help you all can give !
Phil

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April 9, 2014 1:41:44 PM

The card is still relevant, but is only in the R7-260/HD 7770 class for comparison. The FX-8350 can handle much more powerful cards if finances allow. Of course, you have to have enough PSU to handle most faster cards. Here is Tom's hierarchy chart for where various cards rank against each other:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
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April 9, 2014 2:00:07 PM

Dont waste your money on very old tech enless its very cheap. Power wise, cheap and all that I would go for the 7770, even a second hand 7850 would be better to go for.
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April 9, 2014 2:05:30 PM

Duckboy_the_1st said:
Dont waste your money on very old tech enless its very cheap. Power wise, cheap and all that I would go for the 7770, even a second hand 7850 would be better to go for.


Reading the first post helps.

The OP has already got the card.
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April 9, 2014 2:09:39 PM

Sell it and upgrade to this card at the very least: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A 660 or better would be optimal though. But if your budget is really tight, then the above card will get you 40fps on most games with a mix of medium and high settings.
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April 9, 2014 2:13:54 PM

cst1992 said:
Duckboy_the_1st said:
Dont waste your money on very old tech enless its very cheap. Power wise, cheap and all that I would go for the 7770, even a second hand 7850 would be better to go for.


Reading the first post helps.

The OP has already got the card.


Sorry, I do have a habit of trying to speed read then miss a little bit when a little.... what shall we call it? hindered? lol, I must get back to the pond quick/quack

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April 9, 2014 2:18:39 PM

RCGuitarist
I don't think a 750 is a good idea. The 460 has got more memory bandwidth, so in most cases when AA is turned to high, I'd say the 460 will give higher FPS than the 750.

OP
The R9 270X/GTX760 is the card you should get if you plan to get good FPS in today's games on high settings. If you don't want to upgrade your GPU, the 460 will play most games on medium-high settings, but it's at par to today's entry level cards at best.
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April 9, 2014 2:30:47 PM

thank you all for your replies ! this forum is awesome and has been great. i will be going with a 600 w +80 bronze PSU don't have a brand yet , still pricing and piecing all the items i want together . As far as my Budget. I would like to Keep everything under $700.00 if i can . I already have a monitor and keyboard so that is not needed . I really don't play games at 1080p or anything like that but i do like a clear picture . I am making this a ground up build so any recommendations will be helpful !! thanks again !
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April 9, 2014 2:48:50 PM

You could get any card out there if you have a 600W power supply.
You've already got the CPU and mobo, so assumption is that the power supply, hard disk, RAM, and GPU would be in the $700. Is that correct?

Also, what monitor do you have? Can it display 1080p? It'd be best to get a card that can reach good FPS with that resolution; always best to max out the monitor.

My recommendation:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($94.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $659.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-09 17:53 EDT-0400)

Also, you could add another 8GB of RAM for $80 to make it $740 and 16GB of RAM(8GB is enough though).
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April 9, 2014 4:20:07 PM

Sorry if i confused any of you , no i do not have parts as of yet . This will be a piece by piece build , I Gathering information and I am in no hurry . cst1992 your list is pretty much spot on what i have in mind for this build except the power supply i picked was a cooler master 600 w +80 bronze PSU .I also need to pick the Best Motherboard for this project as well . There is nothing binding that i get the 8350 either . It just looked like a CPU that i could use for years and not have to update too soon . Thanks again for everyone's imput. Yes my overall budget is around $700.00 but that can be extended if needed since this will be over time and not all at once . (easier with the wife's purse strings ) :o )
Phil
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April 9, 2014 4:32:28 PM

All i can say is don't cheap out on the psu, i would go with XFX they have very high ampage on a single rail.
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April 9, 2014 4:41:25 PM

got it Duck ! thanks !
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April 9, 2014 4:56:36 PM

If i were you, I'd try to sell your GTX 460 and invest the money towards a GTX 770.
But, you could always wait until Maxwell gets released and grab the GTX 770 for 200$.

IMO, It's worth the wait considering the fact modern GPUs under 250$ aren't even twice as fast as a GTX 460.



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April 9, 2014 5:20:10 PM

darkritual , i just put my card on the trade forums , i am asking $75 for it but will take offers . I have no idea what the re-sale value on these should be . Seemed like the best think to do , i don't wanna park a pinto into a new mansion ,ya know !
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April 10, 2014 12:10:21 AM

@OP
Do you mean the $700 also includes the CPU and motherboard? I thought you had those already.
The Seasonic one I tagged is much superior to what you're suggesting, get a gold rated power supply if you can afford it, it'll give you great efficiency.
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April 10, 2014 1:59:34 AM

cst1992 said:
@OP
Do you mean the $700 also includes the CPU and motherboard? I thought you had those already.
The Seasonic one I tagged is much superior to what you're suggesting, get a gold rated power supply if you can afford it, it'll give you great efficiency.


yea unfortunately $700.00 will have to cover the Whole build . I don't have any parts yet , just getting a feel for what i want and need and something that could last at least a couple years with the way technology works nowadays .
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April 10, 2014 2:48:38 AM

I say you wait until you have around $850. The CPU and mobo add $260 for themselves; and I couldn't get the build below around $830 without making big compromises(older OS, cheaper mobo, smaller hard disk, cheaper processor, no CPU cooler, things like that), I thought it'd be better if I stick to the original build. Who knows, maybe you'll get some killer deal then!

My original build comes to $915.87 with discounts adding the CPU and mobo. You can view that here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3piwS
Note: the 760 in the new build is the MSI one instead of the Asus.
The case is the Elite 431 Plus instead of the HAF912. It has USB 3.0 front panel ports.(The weird thing is that one of our local websites lists the 912 to have front panel USB3.0 ports; but the one in this build doesn't have them).
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April 10, 2014 2:59:41 AM

cst1992 said:
I say you wait until you have around $850. The CPU and mobo add $260 for themselves; and I couldn't get the build below around $830 without making big compromises(older OS, cheaper mobo, smaller hard disk, cheaper processor, no CPU cooler, things like that), I thought it'd be better if I stick to the original build. Who knows, maybe you'll get some killer deal then!

My original build comes to $915.87 with discounts adding the CPU and mobo. You can view that here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3piwS
Note: the 760 in the new build is the MSI one instead of the Asus.
The case is the Elite 431 Plus instead of the HAF912. It has USB 3.0 front panel ports.(The weird thing is that one of our local websites lists the 912 to have front panel USB3.0 ports; but the one in this build doesn't have them).


Thanks for all your Help !! I was thinking of maybe of going with the 8320 instead of the 8350 and save a bit there . I have my own Windows 7 Ultimate so that will safe a little . But i agree i don't want to Milk the Cow dry so to speak and lose any performance just to save a couple bucks .
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April 10, 2014 3:03:32 AM

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Thanks for all your Help !! I was thinking of maybe of going with the 8320 instead of the 8350 and save a bit there . I have my own Windows 7 Ultimate so that will safe a little . But i agree i don't want to Milk the Cow dry so to speak and lose any performance just to save a couple bucks .


Cutting down on the processor and removing the OS brings the build to $797.89:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3piD4
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April 16, 2014 11:25:00 AM

Your direct build as is:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $701.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 14:24 EDT-0400)

Do you have any money left over?
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April 16, 2014 11:58:09 AM

I'd say go with a Sapphire, MSI or XFX 270x instead of a Powercolor, I've heard their cards run hot.
Also, PcPartPicker says the card is too long for your case. Then you should stick with the Cooler Master instead of the NZXT.
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April 16, 2014 12:06:06 PM

cst1992 said:
I'd say go with a Sapphire, MSI or XFX 270x instead of a Powercolor, I've heard their cards run hot.
Also, PcPartPicker says the card is too long for your case. Then you should stick with the Cooler Master instead of the NZXT.


ok i will take a look at it
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