Wireless Speakers - Will This Arrangement Ever Work?
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catsfield
April 10, 2014 12:02:34 AM
I have a Pioneer VSX-322 and the surround back speakers are connected from the Pre Out connections to the AUX input on a Mitsubishi M-P04 Pre Amp which is then connected to a Mitsubishi M-A04 Power Amp. The speakers are then connected to the Power Amp. This works fine.
However, I have an inexpensive wireless AV transmitter/receiver set which I would like to use for the SB speakers but if I connect the transmitter to the Pre Outs on the Pioneer and the receiver to the AUX input on the Pre Amp I just get a very loud hum from the speakers.
I know that the wireless set works OK because if I connect the transmitter to the AV outputs on my set-top box the audio comes out of the speakers just fine.
I'm sure that there is a very good explanation as to why this won't work. Could you please advise?
However, I have an inexpensive wireless AV transmitter/receiver set which I would like to use for the SB speakers but if I connect the transmitter to the Pre Outs on the Pioneer and the receiver to the AUX input on the Pre Amp I just get a very loud hum from the speakers.
I know that the wireless set works OK because if I connect the transmitter to the AV outputs on my set-top box the audio comes out of the speakers just fine.
I'm sure that there is a very good explanation as to why this won't work. Could you please advise?
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alyoshka
April 10, 2014 12:26:56 AM
Maybe there's too much of intereference from the Amp and Pre-Amp in that area.....
Also what you need to check is the amount of current that the pre-amp is pushing , could be a little more or a little less than what the "inexpensive wireless AV tramsmitter" needs, check it's documentation too....
Another thing is , the output from the "inexpensive AV receiver" , could be again a liitle too much or a little less than the input needed by the Amp.... check both documentations again....
Confirm.... and reply.
PS: Makes and models of all AV equipment is always an added advantage when requesting a solution since it helps us figure out what exactly may be wrong..... and provide a proper solution.
Also what you need to check is the amount of current that the pre-amp is pushing , could be a little more or a little less than what the "inexpensive wireless AV tramsmitter" needs, check it's documentation too....
Another thing is , the output from the "inexpensive AV receiver" , could be again a liitle too much or a little less than the input needed by the Amp.... check both documentations again....
Confirm.... and reply.
PS: Makes and models of all AV equipment is always an added advantage when requesting a solution since it helps us figure out what exactly may be wrong..... and provide a proper solution.
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catsfield
April 10, 2014 1:04:07 AM
Thanks alyoshka.
The Wireless AV set is a shop-brand (Dick Smith) and the manual (for what it is worth) gives very little information and certainly nothing about the amount of power it requires or uses to transmit correctly. The RF signal is transmitted at 5.8GHz, but I'm sure that is not the issue.
While I have the manual for the Pioneer, the only ones I can find for the Mitsubishi gear are in German (which I don't speak).
The Wireless AV set is a shop-brand (Dick Smith) and the manual (for what it is worth) gives very little information and certainly nothing about the amount of power it requires or uses to transmit correctly. The RF signal is transmitted at 5.8GHz, but I'm sure that is not the issue.
While I have the manual for the Pioneer, the only ones I can find for the Mitsubishi gear are in German (which I don't speak).
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catsfield
April 10, 2014 1:14:38 AM
Having posted this question on another Forum, the advice that I got was that Preouts aren't line level and that is why it won't work.
Do you think that there is likely to be any way to use the wireless set to send the sound to the SB speakers?
Using other equipment between the receiver and the speakers, perhaps?
Do you think that there is likely to be any way to use the wireless set to send the sound to the SB speakers?
Using other equipment between the receiver and the speakers, perhaps?
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alyoshka
April 10, 2014 1:34:43 AM
Yes, the other forum says the same thing, that the current given out is not of the line out levels..... but in simpler words....
Here are the specs for the MPO4
http://www.hifiengine.com/library/mitsubishi/m-p04.shtm...
I'll get the rest to you in a sec
What have you got plugged into the Line Out of this PreAmp?
If you connect the AV Transmitter to the Line Out of the Pre Amp it ought to work fine.....
Here are the specs for the MPO4
http://www.hifiengine.com/library/mitsubishi/m-p04.shtm...
I'll get the rest to you in a sec
What have you got plugged into the Line Out of this PreAmp?
If you connect the AV Transmitter to the Line Out of the Pre Amp it ought to work fine.....
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catsfield
April 10, 2014 1:41:51 AM
alyoshka said:
Yes, the other forum says the same thing, that the current given out is not of the line out levels..... but in simpler words....Here are the specs for the MPO4
http://www.hifiengine.com/library/mitsubishi/m-p04.shtm...
I'll get the rest to you in a sec
What have you got plugged into the Line Out of this PreAmp?
Thanks for the link.
Line Out on the PreAmp is connected to the input on the Power Amp.
Do you mean that I should use the wireless set to transmit from the Line Out on the Pre Amp to the Power Amp? Cos I tried that and only got humming.
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alyoshka
April 10, 2014 1:43:15 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 1:48:35 AM
alyoshka
April 10, 2014 1:50:31 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 1:51:57 AM
alyoshka
April 10, 2014 1:53:00 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 1:56:42 AM
alyoshka
April 10, 2014 1:57:45 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 2:01:51 AM
alyoshka
April 10, 2014 2:06:00 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 2:08:11 AM
alyoshka
April 10, 2014 2:10:41 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 2:14:42 AM
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alyoshka
April 10, 2014 2:16:53 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 2:27:15 AM
alyoshka
April 10, 2014 2:31:50 AM
catsfield
April 10, 2014 2:37:26 PM
alyoshka
April 11, 2014 2:25:22 AM
alyoshka
April 11, 2014 2:32:52 AM
Can we look at this whole setup in a different way....
Let me see if I understand the concept of what you are trying to accomplish , correctly...ok?
You have a set of speakers lying around, you have an Amp and a Pre Amp (M-P04 Pre Amp & M-A04) with it to power them....
You have a source output the Pioneer AV rec..... (Surround )
Now , you don't want cable clutter between the AV Rec and the Surround Speakers which you plan to put at the back or sides of the room? but you want to Wireless'ly send the signal to those two rear surround speakers right? which inturn are being powered by the Mitsu Pre-amp and amp.... right which, I guess you have also planned on placing closer to the rear surround speakers which is across the room from the AV receiver... right?
Let me see if I understand the concept of what you are trying to accomplish , correctly...ok?
You have a set of speakers lying around, you have an Amp and a Pre Amp (M-P04 Pre Amp & M-A04) with it to power them....
You have a source output the Pioneer AV rec..... (Surround )
Now , you don't want cable clutter between the AV Rec and the Surround Speakers which you plan to put at the back or sides of the room? but you want to Wireless'ly send the signal to those two rear surround speakers right? which inturn are being powered by the Mitsu Pre-amp and amp.... right which, I guess you have also planned on placing closer to the rear surround speakers which is across the room from the AV receiver... right?
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catsfield
April 11, 2014 2:51:31 AM
alyoshka said:
Can we look at this whole setup in a different way....Let me see if I understand the concept of what you are trying to accomplish , correctly...ok?
You have a set of speakers lying around, you have an Amp and a Pre Amp (M-P04 Pre Amp & M-A04) with it to power them....
You have a source output the Pioneer AV rec..... (Surround )
Now , you don't want cable clutter between the AV Rec and the Surround Speakers which you plan to put at the back or sides of the room? but you want to Wireless'ly send the signal to those two rear surround speakers right? which inturn are being powered by the Mitsu Pre-amp and amp.... right which, I guess you have also planned on placing closer to the rear surround speakers which is across the room from the AV receiver... right?
That is correct. We can leave the PreAmp out of the equation if you like. I only have it there to give me better volume control over the speakers.
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catsfield
April 11, 2014 2:53:03 AM
alyoshka
April 11, 2014 3:28:50 AM
Ok.... I want you to try this...
Plug the Wireless receiver or connect the wireless receiver into the Mitsu Amp's Line In......That is the Wireless Receivers output connects to the M-A04's Line IN....
Leave the Wireless Transmitter connected to the Surround Outputs of the Pioneer AV Receiver....
Share the result... Pls..
Plug the Wireless receiver or connect the wireless receiver into the Mitsu Amp's Line In......That is the Wireless Receivers output connects to the M-A04's Line IN....
Leave the Wireless Transmitter connected to the Surround Outputs of the Pioneer AV Receiver....
Share the result... Pls..
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catsfield
April 11, 2014 2:02:32 PM
alyoshka said:
Ok.... I want you to try this...Plug the Wireless receiver or connect the wireless receiver into the Mitsu Amp's Line In......That is the Wireless Receivers output connects to the M-A04's Line IN....
Leave the Wireless Transmitter connected to the Surround Outputs of the Pioneer AV Receiver....
Share the result... Pls..
very low audio from the source and a LOT of 'white noise'.
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