Asking for some upgrade recommend for my systems

sirdanial99 · Apr 10, 2014

Hye pros , I want to ask all of you what should i do with my $325 for upgrade or anything with your recommend . my pc specs are as below :

AMD FX 8320 3.5Ghz
970A-DS3
8GB NORMAL RAM
HD 7850 OC DUAL-X
1TB
525W POWER SUPPLY

What should i upgrade for gaming future game like watchdog , titanfall , bf4 or anything without lag . Please Help Me ! .

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

1.
Your proc ic is still OK, your GPU is actually also still ok.
If you plan to upgrade I think you should aim for now only to replace the GPU but you must aim quite high or you will not notice the difference with your current HD7850, let say R9 280x or nVidias equivalent for that.
The only issue is that I do not know how much an R9 280x will cost you, where you live.
If you decided to upgrade the GPU to R9 280x, your PSU could be a problem there. I am not sure if your 525W PSU is strong enough for a R9 280x.
You might want to include the PSU upgrade too.

2.
Another nice possible upgrade you can get is an SSD although an SSD will not add any extra fps in games. SSD will make your rig a lot more responsive.

sirdanial99 · Apr 10, 2014

maybe i could saving my money a little bit , gtx 770 or r9 280x is better ?

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

gtx770 and R9 280x are almost the same in term of performance but GTX770 is slightly better.
For both, I think you might need to upgrade the 525W PSU too.

sirdanial99 · Apr 10, 2014

yeah , if i upgrade the psu and the gtx 770 will it be very nice playing the titanfall , watchdog , bf4 or anything else ?

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

Gtx770 is nice for the price range.
Yes it will play nice on Titanfall, BF4, etc. especially for the price range.
There are better GPUs but you will need to invest more e.g. GTX780, GTX780Ti, etc.
You will see definitely a quite big improvement compared to HD7850.

cdrkf · Apr 10, 2014

guanyu210379 :

It depends what the PSU is, Sirdanial99 could you give specifics on the PSU- make, model and most importantly what 12V rails it has (i.e. if its 1 x 12V @ 36A, or 2 x 12V @ 18A etc).

[strike]Also- there is little point upgrading to a 770 or R9 280X from a HD 7950. The R9 280X is based on the same Tahiti GPU as the 280X, and the GTX 770 is based on last years GTX 680 kepler GPU which was in a similar ballpark performance wise to the HD7970 (ok both updated models are clocked a little higher, I just don't think the step up is enough).[/strike]

Ah I can't read! A GTX 770 or R9 280X are both a good step up from a 7850 sorry I misread that! I would say however that your rig should cope with those games fine (you may need to turn the eye candy down a notch).

If you're going to upgrade the GPU then you need to be shooting for either a GTX780 or 780ti (don't bother with Titan its more aimed at compute work than gaming) or the R9 290 / 290X (avoid the reffernece card, the ones with custom coolers are much better).

I don't see your rig really struggling much with any of those games you've listed though at the moment. The best upgrade you could do right now as previously mentioned would be an SSD (note this won't improve frame rates in games, however it really speed up boot up time as well as game loading and so on, and price on SSDs are getting much better now).

If you don't fancy that then I'd recommend waiting for now- Nvidia has a new range of cards due out soon (they have already released the new mid range 750 / 750ti and although not particularly fast its very efficient- so I imagine the higher end models will be good), AMD will probably launch new cards a few months after Nvidia (so I'm guessing towards the end of the year) most of the current 'new' cards from AMD are just re brands of the HD 7XXX range (the only real new cards were the low end R7 240 and 250, the 260X and the R9 290 cards).

sirdanial99 · Apr 10, 2014

i don know , am not pro .im beginner . actually , now im using hd 7950 vapor-x but my uncle want to buy it from me and i will sell it because im planning to buy nvidia card .

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

About the GPU, I did some small calculation, 525W will hit almost 100% power capacity in order to make GTX770 properly running.
Having a PSU running near full capacity is not really recommended although it is possible.
So, I would rather be on the safe side and include the PSU in the upgrade.
you can also do it using: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

well,if turning the graphic settings down is not an issue, you might as well as skip the upgrade plan , keep your current GPU and wait longer for the next generation. I must agree to this.
But if you want to get an upgrade, you can get GTX770 and it will do just fine.

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

sirdanial99 :

You are using currently HD7950 or HD7850?
I am confused now
HD7850 is weak but HD7950 is strong. I do not see any reason the upgrade HD7950 yet.

sirdanial99 · Apr 10, 2014

now , im using hd 7950 vapor-x but my uncle gonna buy it very soon , so with my money i have and also the graphic card , what should i upgrade for more performance . i mean i will not use the 7950 anymore .

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

Upgrading from HD7950 is something else, you need to aim higher than GTX770 or you will not see decent improvement.
Let say GTX780 or GTX780Ti.
YOu must get a new PSU definitely for those.

cdrkf · Apr 10, 2014

sirdanial99 :

Well if you can stretch to it either an R9 290, or a GTX 780 would be a big step up.

If not, the R9 280 (non X) is the same as the 7950, the 280X is a slightly higher clocked 7970.

On the nvidia side, the GTX 770 is an uprated version of last years 680 and is slightly quicker than the 280X although in practical terms they will offer similar performance (the main potential advantage of going AMD here is all R9 boards come with a minimum of 3gb graphics memory compared to 2gb on most Nvidia cards which can hurt at high resolutions).

Personally I'd have a look on the web and see if there are any cards on offer as really you can't go wrong with any of them. R9 280X is roughly equivalent to the GTX 770, R9 290 is comparable to the GTX 780 and R9 290X is comparable to GTX 780ti in performance terms.

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

cdrkf :

R9 280 is about the same as HD7950, R9 280x is about the same as HD7970.
HD7950 and HD7970 do not really have massive difference.
GTX770 is about the same as R9 280X.
That is why I already recommended to go higher as GTX770 or you will not see decent improvement.

cdrkf · Apr 10, 2014

guanyu210379 :

Yeah I agree- although there's no 'about' when comparing the R9 and 79XX cards- the ARE the same chips. The only difference between the 2 is that AMD added in an additional display controller onto the PCB when going to the R9 280 / 280X cards so now you can drive 3 x DVI screens off the board (and up to a total of 6 displays with a display port SMT hub) whereas on the 79XX cards you could only run 2 x DVI type screens (but still up to 6 with DP). The GPU at the heart of the boards is still Tahiti though.

sirdanial99 · Apr 10, 2014

thank you , hope this help . can anything else that can i upgrade ?

cdrkf · Apr 10, 2014

sirdanial99 :

Well as Guanyu said a better PSU is probably an idea (they key things to look for are 80+ bronze certified and a single high current +12v rail, something like a Corsair CX 600 for example are good).

If you want to upgrade anything else you'd have to look at going Intel and getting an i7, although I doubt that 8320 should really be slowing you down at anything.

The other thing you cold consider- getting a high performance air or water cooler for your 8320 and then over clocking it. It's possible to push those things pretty hard with good cooling.

guanyu210379 · Apr 10, 2014

Yup!
PSU is a good investment for future updates, but you can keep it also for now and upgrade later at the same time as the new GPU.
The next nice upgrade is perhaps like mentioned by cdrkf, is to play around with OC. Getting an new proc will not bring you much too. FX8320 is still quite up2date.
Above all, I would rather get an SSD to remove the usual HDD-bottlenecking. Get at least 250GB and keep the rest of the money for future upgrades.
An SSD will not add any additional fps in games but it will accelerate your PC response. After you tried it, you will never want to build a new rig without it anymore. I guarantee it based on personal experience.

sirdanial99 · Apr 11, 2014

my uncle bought it now im using the 7850 and he offer me 16gb hyperx gaming ram for $50 it is worth ?

cdrkf · Apr 11, 2014

sirdanial99 :

$50 for 16gb? As long as its compatible that's a fantastic price for that much ram....

sirdanial99 · Apr 11, 2014

can u check it for me , gigabyte 970a-ds3 . and it does effect gaming performance

cdrkf · Apr 11, 2014

sirdanial99 :

I'd need to know the full specs of the ram. There are allot of different types of HyperX ram. I'm assuming its a matched pair of 2 x 8gb modules?

sirdanial99 · Apr 11, 2014

i also don know my uncle didnt told me about that just now , he said it just 16 gb

sirdanial99 · Apr 11, 2014

Yeah i know it , i was kingston hyper x genesis 8gb 2 of kit . Equal 16 gb with 1866

cdrkf · Apr 11, 2014

sirdanial99 :

Perfect- that's compatible. For $50 is a bargin go for it!

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