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April 10, 2014 4:54:03 AM

Hello tom's Hardware

I am building a new computer, something that I've never done before. However, after watching newegg's 3 part series videos on youtube and other various websites, I believe I have a faint idea of what I have to do. :D 
I have a budget of 700 Australian dollars.
I've spent a couple weeks picking out what pieces I should use. I am planing to use this computer for 'graphically intensive programs' (basically games such as Battlefield, Far Cry, GTA, etc), and I wish to record gameplay, edit, etc, all at an acceptable graphic level (as high as possible). So far this is what I have listed down for parts:
CPU: Intel I5-4430 (I won't be doing any over clocking) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Thanks RCguitarist)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage: Typical Internal 500gb HDD. Something along the lines of this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: Pretty flexible. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX500 500W 80+ Bronze Certified. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: None chosen (yet!)

Is there anything I could improve on, to further optimise this for gaming? I am unsure about the motherboard choice, but everything else I'm quite satisfied with, but then again this is my first time build so that doesn't really count for anything :) 
I am also in need of a case. If anyone could recommend a case that would allow sufficient airflow/ample room, at a relatively cheap price (preferably under 60 dollars), that would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone could point out any possible incompatibilities, that would be of an immense help. And of course if there is anything you feel that I could do better just comment below.

Thanks :) 

~thecelis



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April 10, 2014 5:04:09 AM

The cx series CPU uses cheap capacitors. great HD choice. that MOBO is fine. do you want a mid or micro case?
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April 10, 2014 5:06:33 AM

Is that your Budget for GPU?
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April 10, 2014 5:09:36 AM

MalakiArtook said:
The cx series CPU uses cheap capacitors. great HD choice. that MOBO is fine. do you want a mid or micro case?


Hmm...which ever one balances a mix of price and air flow. Are my pieces especially big or.. ?

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April 10, 2014 5:15:54 AM

The CX430 is made by Channel Well - should be OK. I like the Seagate Barracuda HDDs better and I'd go for 1 TB - better storage/$. You could go a cheaper 85 or 81 chip mobo seeing your not overclocking. If you can stretch your budget another $30 try a 750Ti. I'd go for a mid tower case for better ventilation and expandability later down the track - something like a Coolermaster N500
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April 10, 2014 5:17:19 AM

The MSI GTX 750 Ti 2GB was not upto recommended power for the Battlefield 4..
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17046&g...

And your CPU was not upto the recommended for Far cry 3..
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=883&gam...

It is not that it will not run, If those bars cross recommended line, you'd get future proof of your system in this rate of teechnology development.. I mean in the future years, you won't get any problems running the latest games at that time..
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April 10, 2014 5:25:06 AM

he is getting the 750ti he just didnt lable it as such. also it will be fine for playing games. a lot of setting on games make no difference and only eat up the GPU. Also Id get the 4670 if you can swing it. 3.0 isnt bad but 3.4 is a lot better
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April 10, 2014 5:26:52 AM

i7Baby said:
The CX430 is made by Channel Well - should be OK. I like the Seagate Barracuda HDDs better and I'd go for 1 TB - better storage/$. You could go a cheaper 85 or 81 chip mobo seeing your not overclocking. If you can stretch your budget another $30 try a 750Ti. I'd go for a mid tower case for better ventilation and expandability later down the track - something like a Coolermaster N500


I definitely like the look of some mid tower cases, so I'll look into that.
What sort of compatible MOBO would you recommend? I want to keep my cost of my MOBO to the (almost) absolute minimum so I can spent it on my CPU/GPU
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April 10, 2014 5:28:43 AM

MalakiArtook said:
he is getting the 750ti he just didnt lable it as such. also it will be fine for playing games. a lot of setting on games make no difference and only eat up the GPU. Also Id get the 4670 if you can swing it. 3.0 isnt bad but 3.4 is a lot better


Thanks for reminding me :)  fixed.
Yeah, I looked into the 4670 and the 4440 also, but they're both about 30 dollars more, and on a 700 dollar budget...
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April 10, 2014 5:32:46 AM

I think with this budget (AUD700) this is an entry point PC. Down the track you should look at upgrading - CPU (so maybe keep the 87 mobo) and GPU (so maybe also get a bigger PSU). Then later go SLI and add an SSD.
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April 10, 2014 12:46:10 PM

Changes I would make to your build:

Motherboard: Save some money here as this one will do just as good as the one you picked if you are not overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply: This one is stronger than the one you picked and will provide a true 520W. It is on sale alot for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card: A 750Ti won't quite be enough for you. You should get a 660 OC at the very least. This card goes on sale for $174 all the time.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: Get a 1TB drive. You will use up 500GB pretty quickly.
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April 10, 2014 3:24:05 PM

He might want to keep the 87 mobo is he's later going to get a better CPU - that can overclock.

The Seasonic 520 is also the HX 520. The HX are n the way out and AX in.

You could get a better card for the same price secondhand on eBay. But a 6 series. You'd get a 660 and maybe even a 660Ti for $160.
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April 10, 2014 3:58:12 PM

i7Baby said:
He might want to keep the 87 mobo is he's later going to get a better CPU - that can overclock.

The Seasonic 520 is also the HX 520. The HX are n the way out and AX in.

You could get a better card for the same price secondhand on eBay. But a 6 series. You'd get a 660 and maybe even a 660Ti for $160.


If he wants to overclock, he will need to get a Z series board, not an H series. The seasonic is fine, it's a solid unit. And I would strongly advise against buying a graphics card second hand. You are taking a gamble if you do that. Warranties on graphics cards are a good thing to have.
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April 10, 2014 4:14:39 PM

RCguitarist said:
Changes I would make to your build:

Motherboard: Save some money here as this one will do just as good as the one you picked if you are not overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply: This one is stronger than the one you picked and will provide a true 520W. It is on sale alot for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card: A 750Ti won't quite be enough for you. You should get a 660 OC at the very least. This card goes on sale for $174 all the time.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: Get a 1TB drive. You will use up 500GB pretty quickly.


Okay, looks like I've found a replacement for my power supply :) 
I'll go with the motherboard you've picked too. I don't have any intentions to over clock in the near future (at least)
I'll stick with a 500GB for now though, I plan to add further storage as I obtain more money.

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April 10, 2014 11:35:39 PM

RCguitarist said:
Changes I would make to your build:

Motherboard: Save some money here as this one will do just as good as the one you picked if you are not overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply: This one is stronger than the one you picked and will provide a true 520W. It is on sale alot for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card: A 750Ti won't quite be enough for you. You should get a 660 OC at the very least. This card goes on sale for $174 all the time.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: Get a 1TB drive. You will use up 500GB pretty quickly.


Even though the 750Ti may not be enough, the fact that its pretty much using half the power means a lot to me. I am not running an aftermarket CPU cooler, and the case (for possible extra fans) is yet to be decided. Do you think if I use the 660 it'll get to warm in my case?
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April 11, 2014 12:35:39 AM

A 660 is a bit better performer than the 750Ti but uses more power and new costs a bit more.Personally I wouldn't go that way unless I could get one real cheap. Your case should have a fan at the front and a fan at the rear as minimum. A bigger case allows more air flow from convection due to the heat generated inside. I've got a mid tower with a lot of stuff in it but I'm not having overheating problems. You sure won't have with a 750Ti and I can't see you having cooling problems with any current or late model GPU.
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April 11, 2014 2:27:07 AM

i7Baby said:
A 660 is a bit better performer than the 750Ti but uses more power and new costs a bit more.Personally I wouldn't go that way unless I could get one real cheap. Your case should have a fan at the front and a fan at the rear as minimum. A bigger case allows more air flow from convection due to the heat generated inside. I've got a mid tower with a lot of stuff in it but I'm not having overheating problems. You sure won't have with a 750Ti and I can't see you having cooling problems with any current or late model GPU.


So I will be better of performance wise and also for this sitatuion, to ditch the 750Ti and go with with 660?


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April 11, 2014 7:59:22 AM

yeah 660 is much better. 750ti is a low watt card more ideal for upgrading a outdated pc with out upgrading your psu of for building a small low power gaming box. id go with the 760 though if you can swing it.
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April 11, 2014 10:22:13 AM

thecelis said:
RCguitarist said:
Changes I would make to your build:

Motherboard: Save some money here as this one will do just as good as the one you picked if you are not overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply: This one is stronger than the one you picked and will provide a true 520W. It is on sale alot for $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card: A 750Ti won't quite be enough for you. You should get a 660 OC at the very least. This card goes on sale for $174 all the time.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: Get a 1TB drive. You will use up 500GB pretty quickly.


Even though the 750Ti may not be enough, the fact that its pretty much using half the power means a lot to me. I am not running an aftermarket CPU cooler, and the case (for possible extra fans) is yet to be decided. Do you think if I use the 660 it'll get to warm in my case?


A 660 won't heat up the case much. My case runs very cool with my 660 (OC edition) in it. A 750ti will still do games quite well, but you will be stuck to high settings instead of being able to enjoy ultra settings. High settings are still better than what PS4's and Xbox One's do, so it will still look great.

As for the storage size, you can get a Western Digital Blue drive in 1TB size for $59 on newegg. The 500GB models are only $5 cheaper. You might as well spend $5 and have a nice sized drive that you can grow into. The 1TB Western Digital Black is $80 on Amazon.
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April 11, 2014 3:52:03 PM

For Graphics Card rankings see: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Any cards within 10% of each other are nominally of the same performance. If you look at benchmarks for games, some cards do a bit better than others in different games.
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April 12, 2014 6:24:04 AM

I am getting my parts from here mostly: http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
And I saw that in the 660s, there are two gigabyte manufacured cards:
Gigabyte-WF2 /Gigabyte-OC
I was wondering the difference between an "WF-2" Card and an "OC" card, and why an "OC" card is 10 dollars more?

Thanks
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April 12, 2014 3:24:51 PM

A factory OverClocked card costs a bit more. This is for people too lazy to overclock and test their own cards.
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April 12, 2014 7:08:03 PM

i7Baby said:
A factory OverClocked card costs a bit more. This is for people too lazy to overclock and test their own cards.


Is the extra overlock speed worth it for 10 more dollars? Or is it particularly difficult to overlock a graphics card?
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April 12, 2014 7:48:23 PM

Overclocking Graphics cards is dead easy using Afterburner which also includes testing software (Kombustor). Me - I buy non OC Asus cards. I rarely overclock them (or my CPU) but if I want to its easy-peasy.
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April 12, 2014 8:50:55 PM

i7Baby said:
A factory OverClocked card costs a bit more. This is for people too lazy to overclock and test their own cards.


Or those who want an overclocked card and a full warranty.
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April 12, 2014 8:51:23 PM

thecelis said:
i7Baby said:
A factory OverClocked card costs a bit more. This is for people too lazy to overclock and test their own cards.


Is the extra overlock speed worth it for 10 more dollars? Or is it particularly difficult to overlock a graphics card?


Yes, it is worth the $10.
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April 13, 2014 5:24:16 AM

Okay, here is my updated list:

Mobo: A MicroATX Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: 2G GTX 660 Gigabyte-OC (Couldn't find one on newegg. Here is a MSI card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage: Typical Internal 1TB Hard drive (plans to add an SSD later) Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: Something standard. Nothing to flashy. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: Due to it being unavailable from newegg, there is a cheap computer store in my city and so I'm getting a Corsair VS550 for 65 dollars. Here is the site: http://www.corsair.com/en/vs-seriestm-vs550-550-watt-po...
Case: Decided to go with a Cooler Master RC-K380 (54 dollars)

Am I good to go? Or are there any final improvements that I could make?
(I'm a bit uncertain about the case, but I like how it looks. I dunno maybe that's just me.:D )


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April 13, 2014 2:12:35 PM

That seems OK. Including the case.
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April 13, 2014 2:17:03 PM

Looks acceptable. a case is a case just get whatever you like.
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April 14, 2014 10:23:15 AM

Looks good.
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