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April 11, 2014 6:44:38 AM

I got a new system but I am having stutters in games. my old phenomx3+ddr2 ram never had any issue's. I have tried fresh install. updated all drivers but still I get micro stutters in Dota, CS:GO and a few MMO's.

Spec's
i5 4670k
Z87X-D3H
1x 8GB HyperX beast DDR3 2133mhz
gigabyte HD 7850 2GB OC edition 975/1250
650w powersupply.

HW monitor shows maximum CPU temperature 67c GPU 57c.

The same graphic card i used to use on my old PC.
Any idea's?
at first I thought it is because I am using a single channel Ram. but then again, its way more powerful than the old DDR2 rams.
Games arent smooth at all since I upgraded.

Any help would be appreciated, Thank you.

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April 11, 2014 7:27:08 AM

for max efficiency always...
buy an aftermarket cpu cooler ...not the stock one
always use 2 DDR3 memory in DUAL CHANNEL KIT like 2X4gb DDR3 1600

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April 11, 2014 7:34:32 AM

Your CPU is running a bit hot, generally you shouldn't go over 60. The max temp for you CPU is 72C. It may start throttling while at 67C, which is why you experience stuttering. Download CPU-Z and switch to it while playing an intense game (or whenever your CPU gets that hot). It will show you the clock speed. If it lowers by a large number, there is your issue.

Either way you should get a better cooler, normal load temps are 47-60C.
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April 11, 2014 7:57:39 AM

Those tempertures you listed are for amd chips. Intels start to throttle around 100+-5c. The temperatures he has are perfectly safe and fine, and are not the cause of the issue.

Please look things up before telling other people to buy something to solve thier problem.
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April 11, 2014 8:21:13 AM

72 degrees is the max temp for i5-4670K
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April 11, 2014 9:43:05 AM

I checked again, the issue seems to be mainly with Dota 2 and CS:GO. my temps on those 2 games are max 58c. When scrolling in Dota 2 map, its not fluid as it used to be with the old processor. doesnt stretch but it can be noticed.it skips while scrolling. At CS:GO I get a spike which I never used to.

CPU temperature gets to 68 while playing Tera, I get about 90fps which is nice, I used to only get 20fps before. I haven't experienced any issue's.

I will open CPU-Z as instructed, and report back.

FYI: As soon as I assembled the PC, I changed the RAM speed to profile 1 which made it run at 2133mhz.

are there any options to change in the bios that might help? for example disabling CPU BOOST to have constant 3.4ghz on all 4 cores?
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April 11, 2014 3:29:42 PM

MFBLO96 said:
Those tempertures you listed are for amd chips. Intels start to throttle around 100+-5c. The temperatures he has are perfectly safe and fine, and are not the cause of the issue.

Please look things up before telling other people to buy something to solve thier problem.


I posted the exact numbers. 47-60 is normal load, 72 is max temp for Intel 4670k. The CPUs themselves can go up to 100C, but anything above 72C is considered damaging.

Here are some temps laid out by another forum member:
Standard Ambient = 22C
Tcase (CPU Temp) = 72C
CPU / Core Offset + 5C
Tjunction (Core Temp) = 77C
Tj Max (Shutdown Temp) = 105C
Full post: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1740479/safe-tem...

This shows that the CPU can last up to 105C before shutting off, however anything above 72C (with calculations of reading errors, 77C) is dangerous.

The reason why I wanted you to check CPU-Z is to check for throttling. If it's being throttled, you would turn the power saving mode off (after fixing your temps first), otherwise leaving it on will extend the lifespan of the component. The fact that you still experience the issue while at 58C tells me that it isn't just the CPU. It might not be it at all, but your temperatures need to be lowered either way.

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April 11, 2014 4:46:35 PM

gumbykid said:
MFBLO96 said:
Those tempertures you listed are for amd chips. Intels start to throttle around 100+-5c. The temperatures he has are perfectly safe and fine, and are not the cause of the issue.

Please look things up before telling other people to buy something to solve thier problem.


I posted the exact numbers. 47-60 is normal load, 72 is max temp for Intel 4670k. The CPUs themselves can go up to 100C, but anything above 72C is considered damaging.

Here are some temps laid out by another forum member:
Standard Ambient = 22C
Tcase (CPU Temp) = 72C
CPU / Core Offset + 5C
Tjunction (Core Temp) = 77C
Tj Max (Shutdown Temp) = 105C
Full post: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1740479/safe-tem...

This shows that the CPU can last up to 105C before shutting off, however anything above 72C (with calculations of reading errors, 77C) is dangerous.

The reason why I wanted you to check CPU-Z is to check for throttling. If it's being throttled, you would turn the power saving mode off (after fixing your temps first), otherwise leaving it on will extend the lifespan of the component. The fact that you still experience the issue while at 58C tells me that it isn't just the CPU. It might not be it at all, but your temperatures need to be lowered either way.



Well, I over spent on a rig for my little brother that's why I cannot afford even a lousy aftermarket cooler until next month. it is disappointing that the stock cooler cannot even run this CPU at proper temperatures, they should not include it. I am currently running the PC like a test bench, no casing. Room temperature is about 20c at all times.
I do have a Arctic silver laying around, I could apply that if it would help.

But at 58c, it really shouldn't be problem. I will format the PC again and download the drivers off of the website directly instead of using the installation disk.
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April 11, 2014 5:27:30 PM

58C is not an issue. The issue with open case set ups are although you have room temperature, there is little air flow. The parts will heat up and bring cool air in, but the hot air lingers. You can remedy this by putting a desk fan near it, blowing towards the PC. This should help with your CPU heat.
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I doubt heat is the actual issue. It was just something to touch on. Diagnosing micro stuttering is difficult. Try the desk fan and see if it helps with the stuttering at all.
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April 11, 2014 5:48:42 PM

Okay. I found out what the issue was. It is a dumb one though lol.
since I changed the from the old CPU all the games have different graphics options, almost all of them are set to max by default.
All I did was turned off Vertical Sync and everything became smooth. That goes for all the games I got. getting about 120fps now for some reason, but atleast it is not stuttering or spiking anymore.

Sorry to have wasted your time, that should have been the first I checked.
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April 11, 2014 5:57:20 PM

If your game has the option, try capping the FPS at 60 while using V-Sync. Sometimes the game is stupid and doesn't work correctly unless you cap it. I'm glad it's fixed though. I would still watch your CPU temps until you get a case (if you do at all).
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April 11, 2014 6:36:03 PM

gumbykid said:
If your game has the option, try capping the FPS at 60 while using V-Sync. Sometimes the game is stupid and doesn't work correctly unless you cap it. I'm glad it's fixed though. I would still watch your CPU temps until you get a case (if you do at all).


thank you. Yes I will get a CM case/cooler/ram.
I dont like the temps above 50c. I will set up a crazy cooling system for it soon.
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