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You can use the full performance of the video card, unless the CPU is a bottleneck.
If you will overclock your CPU it will not be a bottleneck.
So you can spend as much as you want on the video card. The more you spend the better quality settings you can play your game at.
What games do you play? What quality settings and resolutions do you want to play at? How much are you willing to spend?
If you will overclock your CPU it will not be a bottleneck.
So you can spend as much as you want on the video card. The more you spend the better quality settings you can play your game at.
What games do you play? What quality settings and resolutions do you want to play at? How much are you willing to spend?
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Sorry I should have added those things in my post.
Mainly right now I play wow. I will get titanfall after my rig is built. My budget is around 700.00 but I am piecing this together so I can go over slightly. I need everything except OS, keyboard, mouse and monitor.
As far as display. Really only thing I look for is at least 600fps and with my older monitor 720 or 1080 is nothing I am worried about.
Thanks for lending me a hand with this . I just want to get the best I can with the money.
Mainly right now I play wow. I will get titanfall after my rig is built. My budget is around 700.00 but I am piecing this together so I can go over slightly. I need everything except OS, keyboard, mouse and monitor.
As far as display. Really only thing I look for is at least 600fps and with my older monitor 720 or 1080 is nothing I am worried about.
Thanks for lending me a hand with this . I just want to get the best I can with the money.
Are you in the UK, so that's £700?
Is there a special reason for picking the FX-8350? It's a very good CPU, and not too expensive. But there are also cheaper CPU's. With a cheaper CPU perhaps you can afford a more expensive video card. For example getting the FX-6300 you can save 55£. Still the FX-8350 might be the best pick.
Is there a special reason for picking the FX-8350? It's a very good CPU, and not too expensive. But there are also cheaper CPU's. With a cheaper CPU perhaps you can afford a more expensive video card. For example getting the FX-6300 you can save 55£. Still the FX-8350 might be the best pick.
I think the 8320 is your best bet in that regard. The reason is because you can afford a nice cooler or better motherboard for overclocking with the money saved. To have full use of your processor don't go above a 780. Also for your budget a 770 is a good pick.
Please post the rest of your build. You might be able to snag a used card if wanted.
Please post the rest of your build. You might be able to snag a used card if wanted.
No problem on the site go copy and paste the permalink url on top left. Otherwise to see the actual build and not the link click on plain text and copy and paste. This is while editing a part list. This button is located under forums and benchmarks in the right corner.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qHBr ok here is what I came up with . Still a little iffy on the video card I chose. Any imput would be helpful. If I could buy it now , for only $30.00 more I would just get the 8350.
The difference in video cards is between the developers, AMD and Nvidia. As for the boardmakers like Sapphire, Asus and so on, there is no difference, or only minor differences. The cooling solution of the cards is mostly what separates them. Some models might also give slightly better overclocking performance.
Titanfall
Playing at 1080p, a GTX760 will Probably be smooth at maxed out or almost maxed out settings. 70FPS average, with some dips. But the dips will probably not be very noticable. If you want to make sure to not see sub 60fps turn off AA.
If you play at 720p, the requirements for smooth gaming goes down. On the other hand playing with a larger 1080p monitor will be more enjoyable. But at 720p probably the GTX660 will be more than enough. You can play at 1080p with those cards, but with some settings turned down.
However turning quality setting down slightly in Titanfall, like for example texture quality, might not be very noticable. Yet might increase FPS somewhat.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1354-titanfall-texture-resolution-comparison
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/titanfall-benchmarks-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-gtx-780-gtx-770-gtx-760-idnum168/
http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version
Note: Titanfall has just been released, and there aren't very many benchmarks available. Additionally since the game has just been released, perhaps both drivers from AMD, Nvidia and game optimization will increase performance.
If you want to make sure that you can max out quality settings, or you want to player at higher resolutions then consider the GTX 770 or GTX 780. The GTX 770 would be smoother than the GTX760. over 60fps with settings maxed, 1080p. Occassional FPS drops should probably not be noticable.
GTX 780(and above): super smooth.
If you will play at 720 or maybe at 1080p with some settings lowered then the GTX660 will be fine. If you will only play at 720p then you could probably even get a cheaper card.
don't take the above recommendation too seriously. I just looked at some benchmarks. And since Titanfall was just released there weren't that many of them.
Titanfall
Playing at 1080p, a GTX760 will Probably be smooth at maxed out or almost maxed out settings. 70FPS average, with some dips. But the dips will probably not be very noticable. If you want to make sure to not see sub 60fps turn off AA.
If you play at 720p, the requirements for smooth gaming goes down. On the other hand playing with a larger 1080p monitor will be more enjoyable. But at 720p probably the GTX660 will be more than enough. You can play at 1080p with those cards, but with some settings turned down.
However turning quality setting down slightly in Titanfall, like for example texture quality, might not be very noticable. Yet might increase FPS somewhat.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1354-titanfall-texture-resolution-comparison
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/titanfall-benchmarks-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-gtx-780-gtx-770-gtx-760-idnum168/
http://www.gamersnexus.net/gg/1352-titanfall-pc-gpu-benchmark-full-version
Note: Titanfall has just been released, and there aren't very many benchmarks available. Additionally since the game has just been released, perhaps both drivers from AMD, Nvidia and game optimization will increase performance.
If you want to make sure that you can max out quality settings, or you want to player at higher resolutions then consider the GTX 770 or GTX 780. The GTX 770 would be smoother than the GTX760. over 60fps with settings maxed, 1080p. Occassional FPS drops should probably not be noticable.
GTX 780(and above): super smooth.
If you will play at 720 or maybe at 1080p with some settings lowered then the GTX660 will be fine. If you will only play at 720p then you could probably even get a cheaper card.
don't take the above recommendation too seriously. I just looked at some benchmarks. And since Titanfall was just released there weren't that many of them.
I think that a used 670 or a 660 ti or even 660 is fine. A new 770 or a new 760 are also great choices. Nvidia is more price stable, but any of these cards will work fine. I have a blu ray player right now that i never use but i guess it is nice.
Either the 8320 or 8350 is fine. The difference between the two is: The 8350 is clocked higher at factory settings. If you overclock this is irrelevant. And I think the reason to buy AMD is that you will overclock. For example deciding between a FX-6300 and an intel i3, then without overclocking the Intel I3's would possibly suit the consumer's needs just as well or better depending on what types of games and programs are used.
The other difference between the 8320 and 8350 is that the 8350 has or might have a "higher binning", meaning that when they make the CPU's the best ones become 8350's while the others become 8320's. I'm not sure how true this is, or how much "better" an 8350 is from a 8320. Anyway the result is that perhaps you can overclock the 8350 a bit more than the 8320 using the same voltage, producing the same heat. So your overclocking results with the 8350 might be better.
Don't buy the 8350, if doing so means you will need to get a cheaper motherboard. For AMD's FX series the motherboard chipset can be quite important. Don't buy the 8350 if doing so will mean you will have to get a cheaper video card. The video card is more important for gaming FPS. And either the 8320 or 8350 will do fine in games.
But since the 8350 isn't so much more expensive, than if it's true that it will overclock better, then that extra performance could perhaps come in handy in some situations.
The other difference between the 8320 and 8350 is that the 8350 has or might have a "higher binning", meaning that when they make the CPU's the best ones become 8350's while the others become 8320's. I'm not sure how true this is, or how much "better" an 8350 is from a 8320. Anyway the result is that perhaps you can overclock the 8350 a bit more than the 8320 using the same voltage, producing the same heat. So your overclocking results with the 8350 might be better.
Don't buy the 8350, if doing so means you will need to get a cheaper motherboard. For AMD's FX series the motherboard chipset can be quite important. Don't buy the 8350 if doing so will mean you will have to get a cheaper video card. The video card is more important for gaming FPS. And either the 8320 or 8350 will do fine in games.
But since the 8350 isn't so much more expensive, than if it's true that it will overclock better, then that extra performance could perhaps come in handy in some situations.
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To tell the truth I have never over clocked and really don't know if I ever will. I just want something that plays any game I throw at it without any hiccups and have some nice graphics. I'm not looking for 1080 p or 720p . Just a nice steady experience.
That will last for more than one or two years.
That will last for more than one or two years.
No you WILL overclock. If you have a 83xx, a Hyper EVO 212 CPU cooler and a good am3+ motherboard then with simple means you can increase your CPUs performance through overclocking. So if you find yourself playing a game where you get FPS drops due to a CPU bottleneck, then this is where the "unlocked" potential of AMDs FX series can help you out. Picking up the 8350 you will have a better experience from the start without overclocking, and possibly better overclocking results later on.
PLaying at below 720p the requirements go down, but I don't think that's a good goal to have building a new PC. Same for aiming at 720p(that is 1280 × 720 resolution, apart from 800x600 that is about the minimum resolution available). Those are very low set goals for building a new PC. I think instead you should aim at buying a cheap 24" 1080p(1920x1080 resolution) monitor. You don't have to buy it right away, but can save up some money for a descent monitor that is ghosting-free, bleed-free etc.
The reason why aiming at only 720p is not so cost effective is that, no matter what resolution you play at you will still need a good CPU, descent motherboard, 8gb RAM, and a modern video card with support for the latest versions of directx. Now the difference between playing at 720p and 1080p is just the monitor and a bit extra cost for the video card.
PLaying at below 720p the requirements go down, but I don't think that's a good goal to have building a new PC. Same for aiming at 720p(that is 1280 × 720 resolution, apart from 800x600 that is about the minimum resolution available). Those are very low set goals for building a new PC. I think instead you should aim at buying a cheap 24" 1080p(1920x1080 resolution) monitor. You don't have to buy it right away, but can save up some money for a descent monitor that is ghosting-free, bleed-free etc.
The reason why aiming at only 720p is not so cost effective is that, no matter what resolution you play at you will still need a good CPU, descent motherboard, 8gb RAM, and a modern video card with support for the latest versions of directx. Now the difference between playing at 720p and 1080p is just the monitor and a bit extra cost for the video card.
An alternative for a budget gaming build is a Intel I3 4130 (1150 socket), combined with a very cheap mATX motherboard. Using the stock cooler, compared to a FX-6300 build you save a little bit of money on the motherboard and the CPU cooler and maybe the PSU. And unclocked the FX6300 performs worse in some games and better in some games compared to the I3.
An I3 probably won't last you as long as an 8320. On the other hand maybe down the line you can sell or reuse the I3 and it's integrated graphics, and upgrade to an I5-4670k.
From what i've read WOW isn't so heavy on the CPU. I recommend reading this article
WOW, according to this article doesn't really benefit from more cores on the CPU. They say that I3 is better than FX-6300 for WOW. If so an I3 will also perform the same or better compared to a not overclocked 8320.
How can a simple 2 core I3 perform better than a 6-core FX-6300? It is because Intels "cores" work much faster than AMDs FX cores. For an FX-6300 to outperform an I3 it has to be able to use all its cores, but not all games are coded well enough for this to happen, which is why the I3 will sometimes outperform the 6300.
I think the FX-83xx series is about the same architecture as the FX-63xx series. The difference being 83xx has 2 more cores. But if a game can't use even the 6-cores of the 63xx series, it won't benefit from an additional 2 cores.
An I3 probably won't last you as long as an 8320. On the other hand maybe down the line you can sell or reuse the I3 and it's integrated graphics, and upgrade to an I5-4670k.
From what i've read WOW isn't so heavy on the CPU. I recommend reading this article
WOW, according to this article doesn't really benefit from more cores on the CPU. They say that I3 is better than FX-6300 for WOW. If so an I3 will also perform the same or better compared to a not overclocked 8320.
How can a simple 2 core I3 perform better than a 6-core FX-6300? It is because Intels "cores" work much faster than AMDs FX cores. For an FX-6300 to outperform an I3 it has to be able to use all its cores, but not all games are coded well enough for this to happen, which is why the I3 will sometimes outperform the 6300.
I think the FX-83xx series is about the same architecture as the FX-63xx series. The difference being 83xx has 2 more cores. But if a game can't use even the 6-cores of the 63xx series, it won't benefit from an additional 2 cores.
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I am sure you are right about the over clocking situation. ..I just have never been in the position to do it so I am not familiar with it yet.
And I most likely will get a better monitor for gaming .
I am in the position to buy a used
video card from a co worker and want your all's opinion. He has duel 760 ftw cards and wants to sell one. He says they were 250.00 new and wants 225.00 for one used. I'm not sure of the brand but he is not the type to go cheap. Is this a good deal for 225.00 ? Thanks again for err everyone's input . Means a lot !!
And I most likely will get a better monitor for gaming .
I am in the position to buy a used
video card from a co worker and want your all's opinion. He has duel 760 ftw cards and wants to sell one. He says they were 250.00 new and wants 225.00 for one used. I'm not sure of the brand but he is not the type to go cheap. Is this a good deal for 225.00 ? Thanks again for err everyone's input . Means a lot !!
I think for 225 that is nothing off at all. IF he helps you install and would help with drivers and a possible rma i think that 200 is a fair price. I bought a 760 4 days ago for 160, but that was a great deal. What are your real intentions for this computer, if playing at 1080p or a little above that is a fine card but not a great price as far as that goes.
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my intentions for the build is to get the best equipment i can get for around a $700.00 build . I would like to stay with the AMD platform because i am familiar with it and right now the CPU's seem to be a little cheaper than intel . I really would like the fx 8350 but if i need to downsize , the 8320 and even the 6300 would do to get where i want to be , that is quality game play with any game that is currently out there to play and not worry about if "my system with run it " like i have in the past. I could my new system up to my 55 inch tv and get 1080p that would be fantastic . If i hook my new system up to my 22 inch monitor , that is fine for me also .
I was in the same boat. I think the 8320 is the way to go if that is the case. If you really don't want to overclock the i5 is a nice alternative but it is expensive. Overclocking requires a nice board and cooler too. The 8320 is the best cost for performance while still being futureproof in a sense.
Heres a quick build. You will still need an os and a cooler if overclocking.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3skW8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3skW8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3skW8/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Killer ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($224.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $735.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-15 16:51 EDT-0400)
Heres a quick build. You will still need an os and a cooler if overclocking.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3skW8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3skW8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3skW8/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Killer ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($224.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $735.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-15 16:51 EDT-0400)
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