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April 12, 2014 8:30:19 AM

I'm not patient enough to build a desktop so I just want a prebuilt one. I'm 15, just want to play games. I can just wait 'till I'm an adult to build a PC myself. (By adult I mean like 20+)
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 8:38:42 AM

How many times are you going to post this same question?
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April 12, 2014 8:40:09 AM

USAFRet said:
How many times are you going to post this same question?


I think the other ones got deleted. I can't find them so I just asked again.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 8:41:42 AM

Patient enough to build a desktop? It takes perhaps two hours your first time. I seriously suggest you go in that direction. Why? Because prebuilt gaming desktops are almost universally horrible options, which cheap out on parts like the power supply, include things like core i7s because they look fancy, even though they don't give you a benefit, and are overpriced.


Seriously, you aren't getting a $700 gaming computer when you buy a prebuilt, you're getting a $550 or $600 gaming computer.

I mean, look at the computer that you yourself linked...

It's got an i3, which is a dual core, and a really puny power supply that won't let you upgrade your graphics hardly at all in the future. It comes with a graphics card that will barely hold its own at 1080p - it's a good card, but cheap.... and they want basically $800 for that!

Now compare that to a custom rig:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $709.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-12 11:40 EDT-0400)

That's actually AT your budget, so it's cheaper, it has a way better quad core, better RAM, a more reliable hard drive, a WAY better video card, a much higher capacity power supply for future upgrades...

Comparing those two, it should be obvious just how much money is totally wasted when you buy a prebuilt gaming computer.
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April 12, 2014 8:51:40 AM

DarkSable said:
Patient enough to build a desktop? It takes perhaps two hours your first time. I seriously suggest you go in that direction. Why? Because prebuilt gaming desktops are almost universally horrible options, which cheap out on parts like the power supply, include things like core i7s because they look fancy, even though they don't give you a benefit, and are overpriced.


Seriously, you aren't getting a $700 gaming computer when you buy a prebuilt, you're getting a $550 or $600 gaming computer.

I mean, look at the computer that you yourself linked...

It's got an i3, which is a dual core, and a really puny power supply that won't let you upgrade your graphics hardly at all in the future. It comes with a graphics card that will barely hold its own at 1080p - it's a good card, but cheap.... and they want basically $800 for that!

Now compare that to a custom rig:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $709.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-12 11:40 EDT-0400)

That's actually AT your budget, so it's cheaper, it has a way better quad core, better RAM, a more reliable hard drive, a WAY better video card, a much higher capacity power supply for future upgrades...

Comparing those two, it should be obvious just how much money is totally wasted when you buy a prebuilt gaming computer.


Yeah, you're right. I guess I'll just have to try. Can that build run the newest games? (BioShock Infinite, BF4, etc)
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 8:54:14 AM

That build is WAY more powerful than the prebuilt you were looking at and will have zero problems running any modern game at medium-high settings.

Also, I think you're going to be surprised at how easy it is to throw a computer together - it doesn't take all that much patience.

Find a youtube video showing how to put it together (I like the ones by Newegg and NCIX), and just follow it, pausing to do each step. :) 
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April 12, 2014 9:00:29 AM

DarkSable said:
That build is WAY more powerful than the prebuilt you were looking at and will have zero problems running any modern game at medium-high settings.

Also, I think you're going to be surprised at how easy it is to throw a computer together - it doesn't take all that much patience.

Find a youtube video showing how to put it together (I like the ones by Newegg and NCIX), and just follow it, pausing to do each step. :) 


Someone had previously recommended this build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37tE2
Is your build better?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 9:14:20 AM

Yes and no. The build you got recommended is worse than mine if they're both at stock, but has the advantage of being able to overclock, which will give it a slight lead.

If you're willing to overclock, go for it, but since you didn't know if you wanted to even build for yourself and overclocking is time-consuming, my rig might well be better for you.
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April 12, 2014 9:20:23 AM

DarkSable said:
Yes and no. The build you got recommended is worse than mine if they're both at stock, but has the advantage of being able to overclock, which will give it a slight lead.

If you're willing to overclock, go for it, but since you didn't know if you wanted to even build for yourself and overclocking is time-consuming, my rig might well be better for you.


I don't think I have enough experience with computers to overclock.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 9:21:52 AM

Baconator said:
DarkSable said:
Yes and no. The build you got recommended is worse than mine if they're both at stock, but has the advantage of being able to overclock, which will give it a slight lead.

If you're willing to overclock, go for it, but since you didn't know if you wanted to even build for yourself and overclocking is time-consuming, my rig might well be better for you.


I don't think I have enough experience with computers to overclock.


Maybe not today. Experience is not static....;)
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April 12, 2014 9:28:03 AM

USAFRet said:
Baconator said:
DarkSable said:
Yes and no. The build you got recommended is worse than mine if they're both at stock, but has the advantage of being able to overclock, which will give it a slight lead.

If you're willing to overclock, go for it, but since you didn't know if you wanted to even build for yourself and overclocking is time-consuming, my rig might well be better for you.


I don't think I have enough experience with computers to overclock.


Maybe not today. Experience is not static....;)


I really like computers so I might actually end up being really good at this kind of stuff.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 9:29:21 AM

Baconator said:

I really like computers so I might actually end up being really good at this kind of stuff.


Everyone reading this started somewhere. Even us old geezers.
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April 12, 2014 9:34:34 AM

USAFRet said:
Baconator said:

I really like computers so I might actually end up being really good at this kind of stuff.


Everyone reading this started somewhere. Even us old geezers.


I have question about desktop computers. How do u keep desktops clean? I mean, dust can mess stuff up inside, right? How can you prevent that?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 9:36:56 AM

Baconator said:


I have question about desktop computers. How do u keep desktops clean? I mean, dust can mess stuff up inside, right? How can you prevent that?


Take the side panel off once in a while and blow the dust out. A can of compressed air, gently, works well.
In extreme cases, take it outside and do it so as not to piss off Mom.
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April 12, 2014 9:41:52 AM

USAFRet said:
Baconator said:


I have question about desktop computers. How do u keep desktops clean? I mean, dust can mess stuff up inside, right? How can you prevent that?


Take the side panel off once in a while and blow the dust out. A can of compressed air, gently, works well.
In extreme cases, take it outside and do it so as not to piss off Mom.


That's one more thing to buy.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 9:43:53 AM

Baconator said:
USAFRet said:
Baconator said:


I have question about desktop computers. How do u keep desktops clean? I mean, dust can mess stuff up inside, right? How can you prevent that?


Take the side panel off once in a while and blow the dust out. A can of compressed air, gently, works well.
In extreme cases, take it outside and do it so as not to piss off Mom.


That's one more thing to buy.


Maybe one can a year ?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2014 9:46:06 AM

Baconator said:
USAFRet said:
Baconator said:


I have question about desktop computers. How do u keep desktops clean? I mean, dust can mess stuff up inside, right? How can you prevent that?


Take the side panel off once in a while and blow the dust out. A can of compressed air, gently, works well.
In extreme cases, take it outside and do it so as not to piss off Mom.


That's one more thing to buy.


Yeah, but not all that often. One can to blow everything out, once every 5-6 months should be fine. If you have pets, you might need to clean very 2-3 months.

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April 12, 2014 10:03:00 AM

Well guys thanks for the help. I'll buy the components as soon as I can.
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