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April 12, 2014 8:15:18 PM

Hello I am thinking of building a pretty solid gaming pc for maybe 400 dollars at most? I already have a 650ti gpu. But I still need a processor, Mobo, PSU, and RAM and I can get a cheap case. But anyone have any suggestions on what to get? Thanks!
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April 12, 2014 8:19:52 PM

"IF" you can provide the case, what size motherboards will it accommodate or should we suggest cases for you to? We need to know if it will only hold m-ATX motherboards or if it can take a full size ATX board to best help you.
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April 12, 2014 8:21:39 PM

bgunner said:
"IF" you can provide the case, what size motherboards will it accommodate or should we suggest cases for you to? We need to know if it will only hold m-ATX motherboards or if it can take a full size ATX board to best help you.


I would like a full ATX case and mobo
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April 12, 2014 8:22:23 PM

Does that mean we need to figure that in the price?
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April 12, 2014 8:22:59 PM

And also I already have a Hard drive from my PC what I am using right now.
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April 12, 2014 8:23:40 PM

bgunner said:
Does that mean we need to figure that in the price?


Figure what? The Mobo and case?
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April 12, 2014 8:23:45 PM

do you need an OS?
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April 12, 2014 8:24:52 PM

sorry, the case. do we need to figure the price of the case in to the the $400?
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April 12, 2014 8:25:53 PM

bgunner said:
sorry, the case. do we need to figure the price of the case in to the the $400?


Yes pls, I need to know the total of everything. Thanks.
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April 12, 2014 8:26:15 PM

bgunner said:
do you need an OS?


No I have windows 8 on my hard drive I am using now
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April 12, 2014 8:28:01 PM

OK i will post again in a few with a couple of builds. FYI If the OS you have now is an OEM from a manufacturer it can not be used on a different machine BUT if it is a personal OEM version it can be reused.
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April 12, 2014 8:29:58 PM

bgunner said:
OK i will post again in a few with a couple of builds. FYI If the OS you have now is an OEM from a manufacturer it can not be used on a different machine BUT if it is a personal OEM version it can be reused.


Oh crap, I got this PC from best buy and it was pre-built by Lenovo.. So it's an OEM, correct?
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April 12, 2014 8:31:52 PM

So I cant just stick the hard drive from Lenovo (what I am using now) into the new PC?
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April 12, 2014 8:37:21 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qMFQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qMFQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qMFQ/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A85W ATX FM2 Motherboard ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.20 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $373.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-12 23:36 EDT-0400)
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April 12, 2014 8:38:46 PM

Ohh wow YES and NO. The HDD will work BUT the OS will not work as it is an OEM manufacturer edition. Unless you bought the OS yourself. Did you purchase the OS separately? this will Kill the builds I have been working on if you need the OS.

EDIT I canme up with one for 405 with 25 in mail in rebates that will smoke the what has been posted but I need to know about the OS before I post it.

@tsmash5 he wanted a full tower case and you offerd a mid tower case. The price of a full tower will put you in my range of price and the AMD FX-6300 will eat any A-10 alive in performance.
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April 12, 2014 8:40:49 PM

bgunner said:
Ohh wow YES and NO. The HDD will work BUT the OS will not work as it is an OEM manufacturer edition. Unless you bought the OS youself. Did you purchase the OS separately? this will Kill the builds I have been working on if you need the OS.


Well I do have a windows 8 disc I bought from the store, but it has already been used. Does that matter?
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April 12, 2014 8:44:12 PM

Is that a good build?
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April 12, 2014 8:49:45 PM

yes in aspect to the OS it does matter that it is used already. It can be transferred But that machine will be without an OS.

the build mentioned is not exactly what you wanted and since we need to ad in an OS now that one and the one I put together is out. the need of an OS will Kill this build totally. you will end up with a really bad CPU, cheap motherboard, maybe even really cheep ram.
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April 12, 2014 8:51:46 PM

a $500 is easy with an OS but $400 is really tight for gaming needing an OS.,
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April 12, 2014 8:56:23 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qMEz

this is without OS and will eat the other that was posted but IF you allow us to do a mid tower (not a m-ATX tower) I can easily drop the price under the $400 mark total beginning cost before rebates.
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April 12, 2014 8:58:02 PM

Some simple deals on Slickdeals.net. I would suggest a i5, then swap the PSU (systems don't come with more then 300W normally which isn't enough for the 650ti) and add your GPU and you be set. But your going to have add more to that budget to do it. You will in the year need to replace the 650ti as it is a low end performing card anyway. So honestly you might just want to forgo any of this and just go Console, as a PS3/Xbox 3650 is under $200, can play any game currently. Also Consoles last 10 years were as that would be TWO FULL PC system swaps because the code is optimized for Consoles not for PCs and newer games / hardware isn't compatible with 5 year old system components.
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April 12, 2014 9:03:20 PM

bgunner said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qMEz

this is without OS and will eat the other that was posted but IF you allow us to do a mid tower (not a m-ATX tower) I can easily drop the price under the $400 mark total beginning cost before rebates.


Yes you can do mid tower. Thats what I actually meant. Sorry
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April 12, 2014 9:15:27 PM

Revised list WITHOUT OS! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNIU

base total under the $400 mark ending total $364 and will eat the A-10 that was suggested alive. 2 more cores and no GPU to add heat to the CPU.
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April 12, 2014 9:18:18 PM

bgunner said:
Revised list WITHOUT OS! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3qNIU

base total under the $400 mark ending total $364 and will eat the A-10 that was suggested alive. 2 more cores and no GPU to add heat to the CPU.


Good build, but I dont need a 620W PSU. Maybe to save some money to get a 550-600W, since the gpu needs 400W minimum. So 620W is a bit too much IMO. Maybe something a a bit cheaper and lower wattage? But still 80 plus bronze. Thanks!
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April 12, 2014 9:20:04 PM

Also I dont need a expensive case too. So to save some money maybe I can just get the case I provided earlier. Maybe saving me 30-40 dollars after the rebate.
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April 12, 2014 9:28:12 PM

ok your getting confused. The case I provided in the last build is cheaper than ALL provided here before ( yes I can find one for $20 but looks suck and poor ventilation to keep things cool) so I have already saved money there. The Seasonic PSU is slightly cheaper than the one I suggested in my first build BUT is one of the top of the line manufactures for quality. Yes I can get it cheaper and less powerful BUT there will be no room for upgrade. Look at the PSU like a heart of a body. Do you want a heart that is weak and has a short life span? No you don't. This part can go from system to system as you build new ones. this is why I suggested this route.

EDIT the Rosewill I suggested in my first build is just slightly poorer build quality than the Seasonic for more money.
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April 12, 2014 9:31:47 PM

after rereading your last post before mine if you can save money on the case it will come close to getting a new OS. OS's are around $89 to $100.
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April 12, 2014 9:35:07 PM

bgunner said:
after rereading your last post before mine if you can save money on the case it will come close to getting a new OS. OS's are around $89 to $100.


Yes thats my point, I want to save money so it can go towards the OS. And also with the upgrading, I wont be upgrading anytime soon. And what about the Hard drive? What if I just take it out of the PC I am using now and put in in my new build WITH the new OS? Can I do that?
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April 12, 2014 10:06:58 PM

YES the re is no issues with doing so, as long as you have the new OS. I have 2 Hdd's and 1 SSD in this machine I'm on now. 1 is from an Acer PC i bought 6 years ago, 1 HDD i purchase separately for storage and the SSD for the OS. What you want to do will work, you just need a legal OS.
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April 12, 2014 10:15:58 PM

bgunner said:
YES the re is no issues with doing so, as long as you have the new OS. I have 2 Hdd's and 1 SSD in this machine I'm on now. 1 is from an Acer PC i bought 6 years ago, 1 HDD i purchase separately for storage and the SSD for the OS. What you want to do will work, you just need a legal OS.


Ok and which processor would you prefer? A fx 6300 or a i3 4130? I am going to be playing bf4 and newer gen games. And they will be running with the 650ti.
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April 12, 2014 10:17:41 PM

ok making it easy as I can.
parts you have:

HDD - reused from current machine - will work in new machine
GPU - reused - will work in new machine

parts needed/ don't currently have

CPU- need new/ need to purchase
MB- need new/ need to purchase
Ram Need new/ need to purchase
PSU - Need new/ need to purchase
OS - Need new/ need to purchase
Case- need to get whether it is new or used it is needed.

OK I have broken it down to have and need lists for your build. this should clarify some confusion.
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April 12, 2014 10:24:36 PM

the FX-6300 hands down. 4 more cores and much better in threaded apps which is becoming way more prevalent and will continue to do so in the future.

even if the i3 is able to handle 4 threads (2 per core) you still get a 2 more threads with the FX CPU. go for the FX at your price range. if you can add an extra $100 bucks then maybe the Intel CPU will be best but price/performance AMD has it at a low budget. This is where AMD rules the market (budget builds). Intel has the performance but because of that you pay the premium for it (which is not budget friendly solution).
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April 12, 2014 10:35:45 PM

bgunner said:
ok making it easy as I can.
parts you have:

HDD - reused from current machine - will work in new machine
GPU - reused - will work in new machine

parts needed/ don't currently have

CPU- need new/ need to purchase
MB- need new/ need to purchase
Ram Need new/ need to purchase
PSU - Need new/ need to purchase
OS - Need new/ need to purchase
Case- need to get whether it is new or used it is needed.

OK I have broken it down to have and need lists for your build. this should clarify some confusion.


bgunner said:
the FX-6300 hands down. 4 more cores and much better in threaded apps which is becoming way more prevalent and will continue to do so in the future.

even if the i3 is able to handle 4 threads (2 per core) you still get a 2 more threads with the FX CPU. go for the FX at your price range. if you can add an extra $100 bucks then maybe the Intel CPU will be best but price/performance AMD has it at a low budget. This is where AMD rules the market (budget builds). Intel has the performance but because of that you pay the premium for it (which is not budget friendly solution).


I cant go for an intel for this build. But it shouldn't be much of a difference to where we or I can notice it. But the 6300 would be better with the GPU and for the games that I will be playing?
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April 12, 2014 10:50:33 PM

most definitely. Will be future proofing a bit to, It can easily handle a higher GPU also so you have room to grow. As time goes on that is.
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April 12, 2014 10:51:19 PM

bgunner said:
most definitely. Will be future proofing a bit to It can easily handle a higher GPU also so you have room to grow. As time goes on that is.


Ok, thanks!
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April 12, 2014 11:19:02 PM

your most welcome. have fun building your new machine. Oh one last thing I did not mention is the FX CPU is overclockable also as long as you get an after market cooler. Added performance when you can afford it.
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April 12, 2014 11:35:41 PM

bgunner said:
your most welcome. have fun building your new machine. Oh one last thing I did not mention is the FX CPU is overclockable also as long as you get an after market cooler. Added performance when you can afford it.


Yep, I may get an aftermarket cooler later on. But thanks for all the info I appreciate it!
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April 12, 2014 11:43:51 PM

Also, this would be my build in mind. And I can get the components for cheaper. But here is my build that will cost 400 dollars even if I get the components for different places than on the PCpart picker.
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