GTX 780ti Kingpin or 780ti Classified- which to buy

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So I'm looking to get a 780ti, but i'm not running a water cooled system yet. I plan on getting a WC setup soon. I wanted to know which card i should get. The guys at ncix gave me a price of 950$ for the Kingpin edition, after tax. And the 780 ti is the same price. But I think they made a mistake on the pricing, because the card is now listed at 960$ before tax. The guy who i'm talking to said the price is 963 , so If i can get it at that price, should i get it? Or should i still get the 780 ti classified, which is also the same price.

I am on air for the time being, but am looking into a good water cooling setup. And will most likely get a water cooling set up within a month or 2. So what do you guys think? If ncix honors the price they quoted me, should i get the 780ti Kingpin or get the classified even though the price is the same.
 
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You can buy the classy and go with this waterblock http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-CU-G788-B1, I wouldnt recommend the kingpin edition just because I'm sure you'll be able to get the same out of your classy on water, some will disagree but even those who do, they are running dual 650Tis and just talking.
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The cooler has to look something like this: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Of-Inno3D-d-s-Three-GeForce-GTX-780-Ti-Cards-Two-Are-Overclocked-and-Custom-Cooled-398244-4.jpg

Why? Water cooling blocks are designed to work with reference boards only. If you buy a card with an aftermarket cooler, the GPU block will not fit. This is because cards with aftermarket cooling are made with longer boards so that they're easier to keep cool with air only.
 
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You can buy the classy and go with this waterblock http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-CU-G788-B1, I wouldnt recommend the kingpin edition just because I'm sure you'll be able to get the same out of your classy on water, some will disagree but even those who do, they are running dual 650Tis and just talking.
 
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Well of course there are water blocks made by the manufacturer, but what's the point? A reference card costs less and has no disadvantages to it except for lower clocks, which really doesn't matter since you're going to be overclocking anyway if you're water cooling.
 
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Yeah, I didn't want to get the classy kingpin but the guy at NCIX made a mistake and gave me it at 859.99, whereas the Classified was at 869.99. I never mentioned the mistake, but asked him 3-4 times to verify the price. Even after that, the price he quoted me was 960 after tax, and the classified non Kingpin was 875. So i just bought the kingpin instead. I may not need the kingpin but i got it 10 bucks cheaper then the classified. Now I am going to look for a good water cool setup.
 
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They have the regular 780 Ti Classy for $960... what?!

It's 760 on Amazon and Newegg. Personally I would get the Classified and then buy a waterblock when you need to upgrade to WC. That will save you a good chunk of money.
 
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Just remember: Any universal water blocks that say they support the GTX 780 Ti actually don't support your card unless they specifically mention that the Kingpin edition is supported!
 
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Ok, thanks edulello. I will look into before i buy anything, I got the card because i liked the look of it, and it was 10 bucks cheaper then the 780 classified. I have a lot to learn still about managing hardware, overclocking, and installing. So I'm taking it slow, just doing a lot of research before i even try to overclock, or water cool my system. I treat it like a hobby, and just learn as i go. This is a great forum for getting answers when I don't know something, so I have been asking around and taking peoples input on which parts are good, and which are not.

I appreciate the quick responses, thanks guys.
 
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No problem :D
 
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the kingpin has its own custom block that you get from ekwb. as far as overclocking, it would be very rare for any gk110 to come even close to what the kingpin is capable of as it is the best of the best of the best binned gk110s out there. also a reference board will never overclock that far since their power delivery isn't designed to handle high power. if you don't want to go with water cooling, the regular classified is fine and it will still overclock farther than any other 780ti's purely because of the classified voltage tool and its premium chil8318 voltage controller.
 
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Yeah, I went with the Kingpin. The guys at ncix gave me it at 859.99 vs the869.99 of the classified, so i got the kingpin. I plan on water cooling in 1-2 month period, once i learn more about it. Currently i'm running a gtx 670, will i see improvements with the 780ti kingpin even at stock MHZ, with air cooling?
 
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the 780ti classy, is 869.99 before tax, so around 970 after. I checked newegg, it was around the same price. At least the classy was. I went with the kingpin, i got for 10 cheaper then the classy.
 
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Well the 670 is roughly equal to the 760, so going from that to a factory overclocked 780 Ti you should see a massive improvement in performance.
 
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even at out of the box clocks the kingpin 780ti is going to be very close to sli 670s(reference) as far as gaming is concerned. once you give it a healthy overclock of say, 1.3ghz it will be very close to sli 680s(reference). either get a kingpin bios or a skynet bios for the card and flash the 2nd bios with it so you can unleash its power. i can get as high as 1335mhz on the core with my classy 780, i see no reason why you wont be able to do that or more since its the cream of the crop binned full gk110.
 
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