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April 14, 2014 1:06:13 PM

Hi All! I recently got the itch to build a gaming pc after spending several years with a mbp. The rig has already been built but I'm open to any and all advice from where I should proceed or what to think about upgrading next.

I mainly game on consoles but am looking to move back to pc (ESO, Arkham series, Civilization, Assassin's Creed).

Like everyone who asks I'd like my machine to last as long as possible but I do love the upgrading aspect whenever permitted.

Here is my link to pc part picker:
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Pretzelnuts/saved/

(Currently using a 27" Apple LED Cinema Display via Display port adapter until I find another monitor)

Thanks All!

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April 14, 2014 1:10:18 PM

Flawless, most games will run on high if not ultra, and 16 Gb is just overkill
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April 14, 2014 1:19:07 PM

Here is a better build, for cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless All-in-One Keyboard TK820 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech M705 Wireless Laser Mouse ($37.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1454.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-14 16:16 EDT-0400)

-Cheaper motherboard, and it fits a red color scheme
-better GPU
-16gb of RAM for gaming is overkill
-Much better PSU, and has headroom for SLI
-Windows 8.1, because it is better in terms of performance
-Sound cards are not needed, onboard audio is fine unless you have thousands of dollars of audio equipment.
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April 14, 2014 1:21:52 PM

I would probably ditch the Cooler Master HSF and swap to the Mugen 4, it's a couple bucks more and performs extremely well.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/scythe-cpu-cooler-scmg400...

Also I would take a look at the ASRock Fatality Z87 Killer board. It is quite a bit cheaper than the Gigabyte but has most of the same features but there is a lot to be said for Gigabyte's customer support.

Just looking at the games you listed 8GB of ram should be sufficient and save you a good couple of bucks right now, DDR4 is on the horizon so it may not pay well to invest a ton in memory just yet. Another year (when games may actually hit points where they require more than 8GB) it may be time at the point to look at upgrading the board and memory and gain some more momentum that way.

Last but not least, why the Sound Blaster Z?
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April 14, 2014 1:24:06 PM

I Change the:
Motherboard ( You will get the same perfomance with less money. )
RAM ( He has right you dont need 16GB ram )
GPU ( R9 290 is better, Its like GTX770<R9 290<GTX780<R9 290x )
PSU ( 650w is more safe if you wanna OC your CPU )

Also why u need a blur Ray Writer ? A SSD 250gb ? And a Sound card ?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z 70SB150200000 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($83.02 @ TigerDirect)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless All-in-One Keyboard TK820 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech M705 Wireless Laser Mouse ($37.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1598.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-14 16:21 EDT-0400)
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April 14, 2014 1:29:22 PM

I Remove any extra think. And look this one. You want only for games.
You dont need blu-Ray stuffs, also Wireless keyboard and Mouse is not good for gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($131.45 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1340.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-14 16:28 EDT-0400)
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April 14, 2014 1:39:33 PM

3Dns said:
Wireless keyboard and Mouse is not good for gaming.


I agree on the keyboard but as far as mice they are fully able as long as they're GAMING wireless mice. My Logitech G700 Wireless Mouse for instance has a lag time of less than 1ms so it is just like using a corded mouse, which it can also be with a micro USB cable.
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April 14, 2014 1:42:11 PM

Yeah but why you have to put risk on it ?
For example if you play online games like wow/lol/startcraft and your batteries die or lose singal for a while you may lose some moves on games, thats why i said is not good for gaming :) 
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April 14, 2014 1:48:34 PM

Jacob McIntosh said:
Here is a better build, for cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless All-in-One Keyboard TK820 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech M705 Wireless Laser Mouse ($37.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1454.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-14 16:16 EDT-0400)

-Cheaper motherboard, and it fits a red color scheme
-better GPU
-16gb of RAM for gaming is overkill
-Much better PSU, and has headroom for SLI
-Windows 8.1, because it is better in terms of performance
-Sound cards are not needed, onboard audio is fine unless you have thousands of dollars of audio equipment.



Thanks Jacob! That was my error on the operating system. Currently running 8.1 64bit.
Is there that much of a noticeable difference on the GPU?
I've been second guessing the PSU. Was thinking about the GS700/800 but XFX?
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April 14, 2014 1:51:47 PM

Patrick Tobin said:
I would probably ditch the Cooler Master HSF and swap to the Mugen 4, it's a couple bucks more and performs extremely well.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/scythe-cpu-cooler-scmg400...

Also I would take a look at the ASRock Fatality Z87 Killer board. It is quite a bit cheaper than the Gigabyte but has most of the same features but there is a lot to be said for Gigabyte's customer support.

Just looking at the games you listed 8GB of ram should be sufficient and save you a good couple of bucks right now, DDR4 is on the horizon so it may not pay well to invest a ton in memory just yet. Another year (when games may actually hit points where they require more than 8GB) it may be time at the point to look at upgrading the board and memory and gain some more momentum that way.

Last but not least, why the Sound Blaster Z?


Hi Patrick! The last time I built a pc (not for gaming) was back in 2000....soooo as a throwback I added the sound blaster. I hear you on the customer support on Gigabyte. When I was first looking to build a couple of sites recommended the giga/4670K combo as a starting point.

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April 14, 2014 1:52:05 PM

XFX makes great PSU's, 750W would be a good number to look at. 760 vs a 770 is a very noticeable increase in performance. Ultra settings at 1080p in most anything for very little more money.
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April 14, 2014 1:52:41 PM

Yes, there will be a difference in the 2 cards. As for the PSU, XFX or SeaSonic both have the best units (and XFX's units are made by SeaSonic, along with just about every other PSU), so you can never go wrong with one of their units.
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April 14, 2014 1:55:30 PM

3Dns said:
I Change the:
Motherboard ( You will get the same perfomance with less money. )
RAM ( He has right you dont need 16GB ram )
GPU ( R9 290 is better, Its like GTX770<R9 290<GTX780<R9 290x )
PSU ( 650w is more safe if you wanna OC your CPU )

Also why u need a blur Ray Writer ? A SSD 250gb ? And a Sound card ?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z 70SB150200000 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($83.02 @ TigerDirect)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($19.11 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless All-in-One Keyboard TK820 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech M705 Wireless Laser Mouse ($37.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1598.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-14 16:21 EDT-0400)


Hi 3Dns! The sound card was a throwback to the last time I built a regular pc and the SSD was on sale. I have a 27" Cinema display in my room which I was looking to leverage with the Blu Ray player/writer. I already had the LiteOn DVD writer when purchased....

Will look at the R9 290 as well! :) 

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April 14, 2014 1:57:33 PM

3Dns said:
I Remove any extra think. And look this one. You want only for games.
You dont need blu-Ray stuffs, also Wireless keyboard and Mouse is not good for gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($131.45 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1340.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-14 16:28 EDT-0400)


Hello again! I should have included that the primary use would be gaming but some ancillary uses as well (occasional movie, etc...) What would you recommend as far as keyboard & mouse for gaming?

Thanks!
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April 14, 2014 2:00:38 PM

In all honesty go to a local store and try your hands on a few models and really figure out what feels good in your hands when it comes to the keyboard and mouse. Corsair makes some great gaming boards which I personally love the feel of.
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April 14, 2014 2:01:56 PM

Patrick Tobin said:
XFX makes great PSU's, 750W would be a good number to look at. 760 vs a 770 is a very noticeable increase in performance. Ultra settings at 1080p in most anything for very little more money.


Any particular brand of the 770 that I should look at? 2gb vs 4gb?

Thanks!

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April 14, 2014 2:05:31 PM

Pretzelnuts said:
Patrick Tobin said:
XFX makes great PSU's, 750W would be a good number to look at. 760 vs a 770 is a very noticeable increase in performance. Ultra settings at 1080p in most anything for very little more money.


Any particular brand of the 770 that I should look at? 2gb vs 4gb?

Thanks!



Unless you plan to game on 3+ monitors, a 2gb card is fine. Get either ASUS, Gigabyte, or MSI.
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