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Ive been playing ps3 for awhile now, but have always been attracted to computer games. Currently only thing im really able to play with my laptop is minecraft.

So Im looking into building my first gaming pc(kinda scared to break something though)
The Games ill be playing on it are (Dayz Standalone, BF4, COD, Minecraft, maybe titanfall and 7 days to die)
(could you also tell me what settings+fps i would expect on these games?)

I know i want to stay fairly cheap on the system(under $850 MAX)
I will need a OS, and will probably just use my TV as my monitor till i can buy a real one.
(preferably windows 7)

Heres what I have came up with so far.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($39.99)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($41.22 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Gigabyte Force K3 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $801.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-15 14:17 EDT-0400)


The CPU and MotherBoard are a bundle package from microcenter, thats why the motherboard is only $39.99

So is this any good? and what settings+fps would i expect to get from the games I listed above?
Aswell if possible could you find a way to cut the price down at all?
Thanks in advance.
 
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The FX-6300 can be overclocked and will save money vs. the FX-6350.
The motherboard appears on this spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgN1D79Joo7tdE9xMUFlMEVWeFhuckJEVF9aMmtpUFE&gid=0 showing it has VRM problems, particularly with 125W CPUs. Select a true 900-series board with heatsinks on its VRMs that is not known for such problems.
The Corsair "CX" line is built with some inferior Samxon capacitors that do not tolerate heat well and are known for early failure.
The wireless adapter is good, but there are some decent dual-band cards (including from TP-Link) for around $33 if you'd like to shave some cost.
 
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Are you planning to OC? If this is your first build, I'd advise against it unless you study up and know what you're doing. I ask because you can save money here and there if not. Especially don't need an aftermarket cooler if not OC'ing.

I don't recommend anything wireless for gaming online.
Check out this RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544

Watch out for any prices listed with NCIXus. They have stupid shipping prices if you don't spend enough to get it free.
 
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That system looks pretty good. First I would invest in a good cooler if you plan on OCing.
Noctua is a great brand. If you are not OCing that 212 EVO will work. If you have a little more money look for a better MOB.

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-M5A97-R2-0-SATA-Motherboard/dp/B008V9959O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1397586667&sr=8-5&keywords=motherboard

MSI does not make the best MOBs.

That GPU is not that good. For the money you could get the better R9 270x.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-Radeon-R9-270

If your budget is small that card will work well though.
Get an SSD. It will make a huge performance increase.

vps-ssd-vs-hdd.jpg

 
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windows 8 is going to give you the best preformance.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sgjr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sgjr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sgjr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.64 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($70.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.31 @ Amazon)
Total: $850.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-15 14:32 EDT-0400)

40$ off mobo @ MC. Also you should transfer your OS from your laptop or BUT YOU SHOULD DEFFINITLY NOT DOWNLOAD ONE FROM A TORRENT SITE CUZ THAT WOULD BE BAD N STUFF.....

Also, if you live in northeast ohio I could help you out with any issues you have building. My 'Local' Microcenter is in mayfield and its about 20 miles away.
 
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An SSD will NOT improve game performance. Boot times, game load times, yes. Actual gaming performance, no. He's working on a budget, no need for an SSD.

Combo CPU/Mobo deals at Microcenter can't be beat when you live near one.
 
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I agree with AMDTHunder, if you had a bigger budget, sure SSD is nice to have. But lets' be practical, if you want more performance in daily tasks like boot ups & program loading, get a Hybrid SSD Drive, you get a boost to read speeds like an SSD but the storage capacity of a HDD as well as costs less than a SSD of a high capacity.
 
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He's moving away from a PS3 & uses a laptop for games, he won't be editing as far as we're aware.
 
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6350 with ASRock 970 Extreme 3 @ Microcenter ~ $175
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
XFX 550W PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013 (69.99 - Free Ship)
G. Skill PC 1600 Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544 (64.99 - Free Ship)
MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Micro Center)
Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Plus your accessories comes to ~770 + whatever your tax rate is on anything purchased locally.

I can't stress enough to dig through newegg combo deals as well, and see if you can find more savings. I left off the aftermarket cooler because you simply do NOT need it unless you're planning to OC. I've OC'd my share of AMD CPUs with stock coolers.
 
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I chose the AMD FX-6350 and the motherboard bundle from microcenter cause it $20 more then the AMD FX-6300 with the same motherboard bundle from microcenter instead of spending another $100 or so on a seperate mobo. but i did see on pcpartspicker that mobo might need a bios update to work with the 6350. also im not sure if i wont to overclock or not.

I also need the wifi card, because i wont be able to run a cable across my house, but my wireless connection is stable. I get 25mb/s down and 5mb/s upload.

So should i stick the 6350+mobo combo? or swap for a 6300 and a different mobo? and a 270x is $80 more then a 270.
 
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See my last post as we posted about the same time.
 
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I seen the 6350+ASRock 970 Extreme 3 on microcenter it shows its 149.98 bundled? or are you talking about a completely different mobo?
cause theres a asrock 970 extreme 3 and a asrock 970 extreme 3 r2.0. microcenter is only showing the first one
 
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Yes, that one. I'm seeing 159.98 + taxes. You would still be able to OC with this. Aftermarket cooler not 100% necessary, but can get you higher OC levels. And generally recommended if you OC. You can get a good one for +/- $30, like the EVO 212. Can always purchase it later if you decide to OC.
 
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on pcpartspicker it shows this
"Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs.
ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX sMid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports."
So how would i update the bios? and should I change cases?
 
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That's an incredibly good question. You might check ASRock's website to find more info. As far as the case, that's completely up to you. I was trying to get you good stuffs in your budget. ASRock makes a solid board, MSI has apparently been a bit questionable of late.
 
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any on-shelf board is going to be ready for virsha lol
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($29.99)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $662.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 00:05 EDT-0400)

Is this better then the first one? I switched Mobos, dropped the hyper 212 evo, changed the ram, changed the hdd, changed the wireless card for a cheaper one, and since I ended up cutting back enough, i went ahead and attached a keyboard+mouse since I will need both of those. Will just have to save up for a real monitor since I will be using my tv for the time being.

All I left out of the build is a case, and im stuck between these 4.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vn400a1w2nb ($44.99 @microcenter)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vl800p1w2n ($44.99 @amazon)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-m59001bk ($55.98 @newegg)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc912kkn1 ($44.99 @newegg)
 
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So is the above a better build then the first one I listed? Or should i just buy a cheap keyboard/mouse and wait to buy a monitor, and buy the r9 270x. Or try to squeeze in enough money to change to a FX-8350?

If this is a decent build, and would suggest i go for it, what fps+settings would i be looking at on Dayz,BF4?
 
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Get the better GPU. You can always get a screen later.
If your GPU does not have any power you will never be able to play games ETC on high FPSs.
I would get a cheap keyboard and mouse.
Buying an expensive one will only give you thing you really do not need.
Backlighting ETC.
 
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