fx 8320 vs i5 or i7

cropheus · Apr 16, 2014

Greetings.

I'm about to make a decision, and it's a very hard one for me so i need some help.
I'm about to build a PC for the first time and I have a dilemma between the fx 8320 and i5-4440.
I'll be doing some gaming, video editing and programming as well (going to learn java for start).
Other components include a corsair CX 600W PSU (Please say so if that's not enough) and MSI r9 290 4gb, 8Gb ram, 120gb samsung evo basic SSD. By the way, will there be any bottleneck between CPU or GPU? If I get fx 8320, I don't plan to overclock....yet.
Also, do you think it would maybe be better to get i7 4770 and 16GB ram instead? With cheaper graphics card of course, something like r9 270x. If i get I7, will i really notice any difference while doing regular stuff?
About the motherboard, if i go with AMD, i plan on getting ASUS M5A97 R2.0. However, I have no idea which mobo should i choose if i go with intel.

Thanks.

Joseph DeGarmo · Apr 16, 2014

For gaming, the i5-4670k will give you the best deal for your money. But for video rendering and stuff, the i7-4770k will destroy the FX-8320. Since you will be programming and video editing, then you should go with the i7-4770k and GTX 770.

Egitel · Apr 16, 2014

Basically what Joseph said.
i5-4670k vs FX-8320: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-vs-AMD-FX-8320
i7-4770k vs FX-8320: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-AMD-FX-8320

Intel has much better single core performance, and is just going to be much better at rendering and similar tasks. My i7-4770k kills video editing no problem, and is obviously great (and even a bit overkill) for gaming as well.

logainofhades · Apr 16, 2014

This would be my pick for CPU and motherboard. i7 performance for less.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $309.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 09:14 EDT-0400)

paitjsu sadff · Apr 16, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $364.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-15 07:34 EDT-0400)

There you can have an amazingly good quality entire base for a system for about the price of only the CPU/mobo and this combo will offer very simlilar performance, in real life scenario and daily hardcore gaming you won't notice the difference between both machines unless you benchmark them using single-threaded games on low resolution like most reviewers do online to highlight the slightly better core performance of intel's CPU and trash the AMD competition...

This motherboard and CPU cooler will allow overclock of this unlocked CPU upward of 4.5ghz easily and this setup will feed any high end GPU on the market with no bottleneck whats-o-ever... this it run's any games and applications on maximum details and settings with no problem at all all you need is to add a good GPU and you're good to go.

Here some trusty benchmarks that really shows just how good the 8 core FX chips are compared to intel high-end offerings:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2013/-36-Total-Time,3179.html

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

These results are compilation of tests featuring single-threaded and multi-threaded tasks and the time are compiled for every CPU's on the market...you can't get any more significant results than this. You can see the FX-83xx (8320 and 8350 are the same chips only lower clock speed for the 8320 but those are all unlocked so this is not a problem) do really well even against the all mighty core i7 and if you look the 8350 for example is only a 4ghz CPU imagine the performance of these chips would reach at 4.6 or 4.8ghz as most of them can reach those speeds if you're a good overclocker, but conservatively 4.5ghz is reacheable by pretty much any normal user...

cropheus · Apr 17, 2014

thanks very much for the answer! I guess i'll got with AMD!

JOOK-D · Apr 17, 2014

What's your budget here?

The Intel Xeon option would perform much better.

paitjsu sadff · Apr 17, 2014

JOOK-D :

no it would not perform ''much'' better, it would perform somewhat a little better in some cases,but for more money. For video editing and rendering OP is better of with the 8 core AMD since most applications (animation and 3d apps as well) does not take advantage of hyperthreading but they do tend to like having more than 4 logical computing units, for that reason i think this user is much better of with a good AMD 8 core machine...and for gaming on the long run i'm sure it will server him very well too with games going more and more multi-threaded and optimised for 8 core CPU'S. I think he made the right decision in this case.

logainofhades · Apr 17, 2014

As Jook-D has said, it will perform much better. If a program can make use of all 8 cores from an FX, it will take advantage of hyperthreading from an i7 or Xeon, just the same.

paitjsu sadff · Apr 17, 2014

logainofhades :

nope, check your facts, just like games most rendering and editing applications today take next to no benefit from hyperthreading.

JOOK-D · Apr 17, 2014

paitjsu sadff :

JOOK-D :

no it would not perform ''much'' better, it would perform somewhat a little better in some cases,but for more money. For video editing and rendering OP is better of with the 8 core AMD since most applications (animation and 3d apps as well) does not take advantage of hyperthreading but they do tend to like having more than 4 logical computing units, for that reason i think this user is much better of with a good AMD 8 core machine...and for gaming on the long run i'm sure it will server him very well too with games going more and more multi-threaded and optimised for 8 core CPU'S. I think he made the right decision in this case.

So the Xeon would perform much better. Thanks for clarifying.

JOOK-D · Apr 17, 2014

paitjsu sadff :

Would you care to prove that?

paitjsu sadff · Apr 17, 2014

JOOK-D :

No i can't, cause i'm wrong

,
i thought blender and 3ds max didn't took advantage of hyper-threading but only used more logical cores..
but i searched on that and it seem that some functions within the applications does take advantage like in blender for example doing some fluid or cloth calculations would be accelerated with multi-threading but still not as efficient as 8 logical computing units..but the faster intel core's will indeed provide slighlty better results in most cases, but at a higher price/performance ratio.

JOOK-D · Apr 17, 2014

paitjsu sadff :

JOOK-D :

No i can't, cause i'm wrong

,
i thought blender and 3ds max didn't took advantage of hyper-threading but only used more logical cores..
but i searched on that and it seem that some functions within the applications does take advantage like in blender for example doing some fluid or cloth calculations would be accelerated with multi-threading but still not as efficient as 8 logical computing units..but the faster intel core's will indeed provide slighlty better results in most cases, but at a higher price/performance ratio.

The Xeon option provided by logainofhades is not much more expensive than your AMD offering, and the Xeon will perform better. I don't think the ratio would be all that different.

vmN · Apr 17, 2014

It would be dumpfooled today to make a program checking for what you call as "logical cores", instead of checking for the avaible threads (which is far better, and would require little additional coding).

Please don't define it as "logical computing units", as that can confuse people. If we are talking about units, we general are talking about ALUs or FPUs or something similar.

Price/performance never scales perfectly, the more performance you want the even more you would need to pay. It have always been this way, and surely would continue.

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