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Hey this is my first time posting here. I'm gonna attempt my first PC build and I'm trying to learn what I can before I start. I have a couple of builds in mind and wanted some opinions. Before I start, I already have a copy of Windows 7, a keyboard and mouse and controllers. I wanna run bf4 at least as well as my ps4 does. I have a budget of $500 but really wanna stay around $450 at most. I have a build based on A10 7700 and one on the fx 6300. Again I'm open to suggestions. Here's the A10 7700 build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bandit95ta/saved/4nTC

And fx6300 build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bandit95ta/saved/4o1d

I'm going to build this to replace my ps4 and hook it up to my TV to serve as a game console/media center.
 
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Hmmmm. Here are the specs of the PS4 as I found them.

1. ARM Cortex based secondary processor for background tasks.
2. 8 Core AMD processor, running at about 1.9-2.4GHZ, based off of Bobcat architecture.
3. 8GB GDDR5 RAM
4. AMD Radeon based GPU, with shared system RAM.

That is not a bad unit. A PC that costs ~$450 will not be able to do as much, as fast. I would do the FX processor, and then save up for a GTX 750-760. BF4 is VERY GPU intense.
 
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For you and everyone witht he $500 tax refund, just get a console. Honestly the Consoles are tweaked specifically for the games, and the games will ALWAYS play perfectly. On that budget for a PC you will ALWAYS have issues, because the cost of hardware on PC side is twice that of a console to get the level 'expected' ( 60FPS or greater, 1080P display 64Man Maps all settings maxed).

NO A10, A8, Ax entire line is for Low Power, Low Cost, LOW DEMAND 90% other usage, NOT gaming. Just read the testing on those latest A10, and we are talking lower end games SET to LOW /Medium, and playing in the 20FPS range. Again, these are NOT gaming CPUs. FX-8xxx is really the only AMD one you can go for 2013 FORWARD titles, Intel i5 is the standard which Haswell chipset (i5-4xxx) performs AHEAD of the FX-8xxx now.
 
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Well, yes, sorta. The 8350 is very close to the i5s in real game performance.
 
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I already have a ps4. Just wanna sell it and get into the PC scene. Battlefield 4 would be probably the most graphically intense game I'd play. Have a Xbox 360 as well for some console games. I just have the interest in building a good performing budget PC because I always wanted to build a PC. Also interested in getting games on steam. Adding the gtx 750 in place of the r7 260 is still under the sweet spot of $450. So thank you for that suggetion Hello man. Looking for more suggestions to make more tweaks. Did I choose a good mother board. That's the spot where I feel the least knowledgeable right now.
 
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Its new and it is made by ASUS. So yes, it will be ok.
 
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Right but the problem your not realizing is the APU (Combined CPU and GPU) is a choke point and will kill your overall performance no matter the GPU put in. See consoles overall are tweaked ONLY for one function GAMING, not websurfing, looking at videos, etc. and then they force the software (Game) makers into a required set of 'standards' to meet those tweaks. In PC systems you have many hardware devices, many different OSes to run off of, etc. so there is no way a software maker could have the majority of 'same systems' to test/ program against, and the push always is with the 'latest and greatest' thus that is how the game 'advertised' is what you / I consumer want to 'play as'.

To meet that demand, on PC side, MIMINALLY you need to spend $700 for a 'built from scratch' for the miminal 'PLAYABLE' standard. Commonly people wish 1080P displays (1920x1080), around 60FPS, settings on HIGH to ULTRA and playing (in this case BF4) 64Man Maps. ALL demand alot from the hardware, NOT JUST GPU. To go 'budget' of $700 you would typically be down to 45FPS or so, and be either Medium to High graphics level.

In comparision (see my original note) your going to get 10s-20FPS on LOW (Below 720p) settings, and choke/freeze/stutter when someone launches a barrage from a Helo at you. Does this help provide a clearer picture on any a APU is NOT a option?
 
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yes from the advice given and more research i'm avoiding the apu idea now. my new build focuses on the fx 6300 and the gtx 750 ti. i have a case in mind and i will replace the psu in it with something more powerful and seemingly better quality. its a smaller case and i was hoping for some advice on if it would be too cramped. its pretty much my last concern. here's the link to the build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bandit95ta/saved/4rKp
if it doesn't seem like a good choice for the case then i've already got a bigger atx case picked out. just want some advice before i pull the trigger and start buying parts.
 
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I get what you're saying. If I feel the need to upgrade in a year or so them I will. This is a build to get my feet wet. It'll serve me well enough with some newer titles and older titles that I miss playing. How about the case? Does it seem like it's a good choice or should I go bigger?
 
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Come up as missing, might want to check that build again. Cases should be bought that fit the PSU and GPU properly (check the measurements of the inside case and the components will fit) as well as should have the best design possible (for the cost) for airflow. So many are just terrible and recycle the HOT air inside.

Your only 'upgrade' path would be a FX-8xxx. As the FX line is a 'dead end', as there is nothing else being produced by AMD to upgrade (as the problem with previous Mobo lines before) and the new APU (for general computing) is a totally different chipset/design, IF AMD comes out with anything 'new' in 2015 or 2016 (they have made no effort in 2013-2014 and appear to have suggested they won't be doing anything for years to come) it would be incompatible with the Mobo your investing into. So it won't be (just a heads up) a simple CPU 'upgrade' but again a total new computer in only 2 years you would reinvest in, then to get the 5 years life out of it as expected (the FX line is pretty old anyway since it was released I was VERY surprised to learn recently, I didn't realize it).

Just a word of warning is all.
 
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