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April 17, 2014 9:16:45 AM

Hello,
I have not built a computer in 5 years and about to make a new gaming machine. I have the Antec 900 case in good condition, so I will be building in that. So far I have come up with these items for the build. I would like help with which parts to go for.

MSI B85-G41 PC Mate LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX High Performance CF Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Option 2) ASRock Z87 PRO3 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Intel Core i7-4771 Haswell 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600 BX80646I74771
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Power supply not sure but looking to add a decent video card later like the R9 270 later, but will try to use the HD 4600 first. Maybe this power:

Antec TruePower Classic series TP-650C 650W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I want to try out the Intel 4600 HD first, only looking to play Wow, Diablo 3, and Starcraft 2 type games for now. Will the 4600 HD be enough? If not for the video:

MSI R9 270 GAMING 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit

LG Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model UH12NS30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TRENDnet TEW-726EC PCI Express 1.0 N600 Wireless Dual Band Adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Will all this be compatible? Which hardware should be replaced with the ones I have chosen. Please I need help and suggestions


April 17, 2014 9:25:15 AM

whats your budget.:) 
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April 17, 2014 9:29:56 AM

The 4600 HD cant give you a nice experience with Wow, Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. MSI R9 270 GAMING 2GB is a great choice for those games. Great PSU and mobo (ASRock Z87 PRO3). That will be a great gaming build for you. If you want to spare money get just 2x4GB RAM and i5-4670k. You will get absolutly same performance. And you will be able to overclock your CPU for even more performance. Get a nice Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO for just $30 when you chose to overclock that cpu.
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April 17, 2014 9:31:26 AM

The build above is priced at 750. My budget is 800. I have the case and a hdtv I can use for this.
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April 17, 2014 9:31:59 AM

I would go with something more along these lines. You are spending too much in some areas, and for a gaming computer, you need a dedicated GPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($101.39 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $818.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-17 12:31 EDT-0400)
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April 17, 2014 9:32:37 AM

This will get you maxed out in those games for a LOT less money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($139.50 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($36.98 @ Best Buy)
Total: $552.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-17 12:32 EDT-0400)
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April 17, 2014 9:34:11 AM

nevermind, it was 855 without the video, so I guess i have to up the budget to 1000 or do the i5 -4670
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April 17, 2014 9:41:57 AM

I would change my recommendation to this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $688.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-17 12:41 EDT-0400)


You don't need to max out your $1,000 for what you'll be doing. This will max out all of those, and threw in an SSD :)  the power supply and CPU are fully capable of handling any single graphics card out there, so upgrades will be easy :) 
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April 17, 2014 9:42:26 AM

Gaming performance comes from the GPU, so if you want to spend more then I would recommend upgrading to a 770 and adding a SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($101.39 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $981.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-17 12:42 EDT-0400)
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April 17, 2014 9:49:08 AM

This is a great option for your budget from Newegg too:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.23 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $757.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-17 12:47 EDT-0400)
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April 17, 2014 10:12:19 AM

I will let you all know what I have chose soon, but another question. Is there anyway I can use my old Power supply in this new build. I can save a little there and go for the higher end video like suggested. Will it have all the newer connectors for the newer motherboards.

This is what I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 17, 2014 10:31:23 AM

hello

you will need a little bit more power than the just to be safe! you realy dont whont an unstable system.

I would get:

CPU:intel I5 4670K + thermalright ifx 14
motherboard: ASUS or MSI lga1150 dont try to cheap out to much on this. go for som thing like a asus saberthooth
memory anything around 8gb 1600mhz cl8 and up will do but not increase performance
GPU: MSI gaming gtx760 - gtx770 or R9 270 will do dont get 270x its just an overclocked 270
psu: this is more inportant that you would think. I recommend an antec, XFX or corsair. but if you dont whont to pay so much a coolermaster. get around 650watt or more for 1gpu. 750watt or more if you get 2 or are going to get a 2th 1 in the future
also dont forget to order some 120mm or 140mm fans for good airflow 1 high speed fan is much louder than 2 mid speed :) 
if you have some spare money get an ssd + hdd and boot from ur ssd! samsung, intel and kingstone have some nice ssd's.
hdd should be around 500gb for gaming 1tb if you plan getting a shit load of HD movies!

soundcard. I would buy a asus xonar XD. because why are you spending tons on a good img on ur screen but cant pay 30$ for a great sound aswell.
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April 17, 2014 11:13:59 AM

OP, That power supply is perfect, and will power your build just fine. Going with an i5 + 760 or 770 will put you right around 325w at 100% load, so you'll be perfect. 650w is certainly not the minimum, as suggested above.

A dedicated sound card is pointless, especially if you don't have good speakers, or aren't paying a lot for a good sound card. The built-in soundcard on the motherboards these days are decent.
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April 17, 2014 12:50:45 PM

325watt is max load at stock but with some overclocking this can be as high as 500watt. and piek loads can be allot more. you are forgetting that modern videocard have a tdp setting with down clocks them when they are under load remove this and even at stock clocks you will go waay over the tdp. and yes onboard audio has a high enough quality. almost no 1 wil notis the difference in sound quality but the xonar dgx gives some nice feature's like a good crossover setting equalisers ,some nice headphone amps and a virtual 5.1 setting for if you only have stereo speakers. and that you do hear.
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April 17, 2014 12:53:46 PM

Thanks for all the help, I am taking advice from everyone that helped and this is the build Icame up with right for my budget and gaming needs.

ASRock Z87 PRO3 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 100
Intel Core i5-4570 Haswell 3.2GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54570 200
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB 69
MSI Gaming N770 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card 340
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit - OEM 100
Antec 900 with 550 truewatt power supply 0
Seagate 250 GB sata HD 0
LG Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model UH12NS30 50
APEVIA CVT48 9.5" 4 Pin P4 /12V to 8 Pin P8 /12V Power Supply Converter Cable 5
TRENDnet TEW-726EC PCI Express 1.0 N600 Wireless Dual Band Adapter 32

Total 896.

Will it be good for my gaming needs?
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April 17, 2014 1:02:09 PM

I would go with a 500gb hdd
and well the motherboard is the best.. but asrock has nice support and if you're not planning to overclock it.. should be fine.
1 big issue might be the gpu ram. I play battlefield 4 online and I use 2.5GB of videoram!
but maybe battlefield will find a way to only use 2gb and then you might not even notice it.
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April 17, 2014 1:05:03 PM

killer pc g15 said:
325watt is max load at stock but with some overclocking this can be as high as 500watt. and piek loads can be allot more. you are forgetting that modern videocard have a tdp setting with down clocks them when they are under load remove this and even at stock clocks you will go waay over the tdp. and yes onboard audio has a high enough quality. almost no 1 wil notis the difference in sound quality but the xonar dgx gives some nice feature's like a good crossover setting equalisers ,some nice headphone amps and a virtual 5.1 setting for if you only have stereo speakers. and that you do hear.


The most you will be overclocking the 770 without flashing a custom BIOS is low, which will add maybe 25w. The 325w estimate includes all of that already.

In now way will this build ever come close to reaching 400w at peak draw, let alone 500+.

BF4 preloads as much as it can into VRAM. I run about 1.7GB of VRAM with BF4 at 1080p/Ultra settings. 2GB of VRAM is plenty.
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April 17, 2014 1:06:11 PM

blyall29 said:
Thanks for all the help, I am taking advice from everyone that helped and this is the build Icame up with right for my budget and gaming needs.

ASRock Z87 PRO3 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 100
Intel Core i5-4570 Haswell 3.2GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54570 200
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB 69
MSI Gaming N770 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card 340
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit - OEM 100
Antec 900 with 550 truewatt power supply 0
Seagate 250 GB sata HD 0
LG Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model UH12NS30 50
APEVIA CVT48 9.5" 4 Pin P4 /12V to 8 Pin P8 /12V Power Supply Converter Cable 5
TRENDnet TEW-726EC PCI Express 1.0 N600 Wireless Dual Band Adapter 32

Total 896.

Will it be good for my gaming needs?


Everything looks good except the motherboard. You don't need a Z87 board unless you plan on buying a separate unlocked CPU in the future.

Will get you Ultra/Max in pretty much everything at 1080p :) 
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April 17, 2014 1:15:55 PM

Thanks for point that out.

ASRock B85 Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 70

So total 865. I think i am ready to get this but a little worried if the 550 will power all this. Should I be?

I will update my hard drive later, just want to make sure everything will work first.
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April 17, 2014 1:36:56 PM

ASRock B85 Pro4 is a good option for i5-4570. Your build is fine. A good 550W PSU can power a no-oced i5 & GTX 770 build.
Good luck mate!
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April 17, 2014 5:17:17 PM

Thanks everyone,
I am so excited I probably won't be able to sleep until next week when everything arrives lol. I don't think I have ever seen a video card that nice before. My video was a 7800gt and single core amd cpu . But I do like the antec 900 case I have. always thought it looked nice and the big fan on top.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 21, 2014 7:55:20 AM

If you like the case, that's all that matters lol It's a good airflow case, and since your CPU won't be overclocked, everything should stay nice and cool :) 

And as filippi said, 550w is more than plenty for your needs. Since the 4570 will not be overclocked, you're looking around 325w or so under full 100% load. This'll put you near peak efficiency :) 
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