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April 20, 2014 1:28:48 PM

So I was wondering, because AMD is what Sony and Microsoft are using for their next gen consoles, will games run better and be more optimized for AMD as opposed to Nvidia/Intel?

Might it be wise to avoid building a new Nvidia/Intel gaming rig in favour of AMD?

Thank you!

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April 20, 2014 1:36:32 PM

I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.
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April 20, 2014 1:38:02 PM

Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.
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April 20, 2014 1:38:12 PM

Unfortunately I doubt the consoles would affect games in this way. It more likely the consumers that demand for better multi-core optimization from game developers on the pc side.
In my opinion, Intel cpu is slightly better in some games but AMD is not that behind. Unfortunately, some games aren't well coded to use multicore performance so thats why Intel wins on single thread performance games. But hopefully in future modern there is more support for multicore. Example is BF4 but Intel is still slightly better.
Gpu depends on location prices. But technically AMD and Nvidia gpu trade blows due to their business model.
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April 20, 2014 1:46:11 PM

MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)
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April 20, 2014 7:51:59 PM

Suztera said:
Unfortunately I doubt the consoles would affect games in this way. It more likely the consumers that demand for better multi-core optimization from game developers on the pc side.
In my opinion, Intel cpu is slightly better in some games but AMD is not that behind. Unfortunately, some games aren't well coded to use multicore performance so thats why Intel wins on single thread performance games. But hopefully in future modern there is more support for multicore. Example is BF4 but Intel is still slightly better.
Gpu depends on location prices. But technically AMD and Nvidia gpu trade blows due to their business model.


In that case, I think I will stick to Intel and Nvidia, thank you for the feedback!
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April 20, 2014 7:56:35 PM

Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).
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April 20, 2014 8:11:08 PM

MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.
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April 20, 2014 10:34:44 PM

Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?
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April 21, 2014 5:41:25 AM

MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.
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April 21, 2014 4:54:49 PM

Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.


mATX is mid ATX right? I'm glad that is that case, a bit extra for better quality is fine by me.
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April 21, 2014 5:08:58 PM

MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.


mATX is mid ATX right? I'm glad that is that case, a bit extra for better quality is fine by me.


No I think your are confusing tower size and mobo size. This is just a general overview here

mobo:
XL/EATX = large mobo for multi SLI setups fit Full tower and up
ATX = normal size mobo fits mid-tower and up
mATX = microATX (smaller than ATX fits some small form factor (SFF) and up)
ITX = smaller than mATX for SFF fits larger cases as well.

Case:

full/ultra = largest cases fits most all mobo XL/EATX and smaller
mid = normal desktop size fits ATX and smaller
SFF = fits mATX and/or ITX
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April 21, 2014 5:29:28 PM

Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.


mATX is mid ATX right? I'm glad that is that case, a bit extra for better quality is fine by me.


No I think your are confusing tower size and mobo size. This is just a general overview here

mobo:
XL/EATX = large mobo for multi SLI setups fit Full tower and up
ATX = normal size mobo fits mid-tower and up
mATX = microATX (smaller than ATX fits some small form factor (SFF) and up)
ITX = smaller than mATX for SFF fits larger cases as well.

Case:

full/ultra = largest cases fits most all mobo XL/EATX and smaller
mid = normal desktop size fits ATX and smaller
SFF = fits mATX and/or ITX


Ahhh I always thought ATX was a case sizing..... Thank you for clarifying that. So mATX would be good because it can fit all manner of cases then?
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April 21, 2014 5:36:45 PM

MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.


mATX is mid ATX right? I'm glad that is that case, a bit extra for better quality is fine by me.


No I think your are confusing tower size and mobo size. This is just a general overview here

mobo:
XL/EATX = large mobo for multi SLI setups fit Full tower and up
ATX = normal size mobo fits mid-tower and up
mATX = microATX (smaller than ATX fits some small form factor (SFF) and up)
ITX = smaller than mATX for SFF fits larger cases as well.

Case:

full/ultra = largest cases fits most all mobo XL/EATX and smaller
mid = normal desktop size fits ATX and smaller
SFF = fits mATX and/or ITX


Ahhh I always thought ATX was a case sizing..... Thank you for clarifying that. So mATX would be good because it can fit all manner of cases then?


In that respect yes they are. They usually carry a slight price premium with them (over ATX) because it is more difficult to fit basically the same number of components onto a smaller PCB (board).

EDIT: ITX are more expensive mATX are about the same. I got them confused for a minute.
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April 21, 2014 6:13:48 PM

Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.


mATX is mid ATX right? I'm glad that is that case, a bit extra for better quality is fine by me.


No I think your are confusing tower size and mobo size. This is just a general overview here

mobo:
XL/EATX = large mobo for multi SLI setups fit Full tower and up
ATX = normal size mobo fits mid-tower and up
mATX = microATX (smaller than ATX fits some small form factor (SFF) and up)
ITX = smaller than mATX for SFF fits larger cases as well.

Case:

full/ultra = largest cases fits most all mobo XL/EATX and smaller
mid = normal desktop size fits ATX and smaller
SFF = fits mATX and/or ITX


Ahhh I always thought ATX was a case sizing..... Thank you for clarifying that. So mATX would be good because it can fit all manner of cases then?


In that respect yes they are. They usually carry a slight price premium with them (over ATX) because it is more difficult to fit basically the same number of components onto a smaller PCB (board).


I see, so an ATX board priced a bit lower than the mATX is probably just as good, just bigger?
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April 22, 2014 12:20:33 AM

ATX boards are almost-always priced HIGHER than mATX boards. mATX boards have basically the same features as ATX boards, though ATX boards have the space to add a couple extra stuff like more USB, more PCI-E slots (extra GPU, network card etc.)

AMD and Nvidia go head-to-head in the mid range and high end markets, though AMD generally leads the lower-end market.
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April 22, 2014 5:02:54 AM

MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Spectre694 said:
I highly doubt it as the instructions are x86-64 for the CPU same as any desktop CPU. and this isn't the first time AMD graphics have been chosen for a console so I doubt there will be anything there either.

Another point is that at the the moment neither console supports mantle but instead has plans for DX 12 which both Nvidia and AMD cards have.


My knowledge of PC hardware is seriously lacking.....

But thank you for your answer, I will stick with the current build I'm hoping to put together.


That's no problem there are a lot of things going on it can get very complicated. Likely the only thing to come out of this console gen will finally be some better multi-core game optimization but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

What build were you looking at? (just curiosity)


That's for sure :p .

Well, I'm "planning" on:

- i5 4670k 3.4 Ghz (will have to learn about overclocking before trying it)
- Asus Z78 Gryphon motherboard
- GTX 770 2Gb 256 bit (EVGA seems to be well recognized) (I want the 780, but I think it's way more than I need)
- Not sure about PSU or Case right now.
- Windows 7 64 bit
- 8Gb or RAM (thinking Corsair Vengence 1600 MHz 2x4)
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- A 7200 RPM HDD (probably 500Gb or so, I'll only download games and only from Steam and other online stores).


Looks like a pretty good build so far to me. You'll be happy with something like that.


I'm glad you think so, do you think the motherboard is good and of high quality?


Yes if you are going for a mATX build that is a very good choice. Asus boards are a little more expensive but are of high quality and usually very feature packed. They also seem to have the z87 chipset down petty well.


mATX is mid ATX right? I'm glad that is that case, a bit extra for better quality is fine by me.


No I think your are confusing tower size and mobo size. This is just a general overview here

mobo:
XL/EATX = large mobo for multi SLI setups fit Full tower and up
ATX = normal size mobo fits mid-tower and up
mATX = microATX (smaller than ATX fits some small form factor (SFF) and up)
ITX = smaller than mATX for SFF fits larger cases as well.

Case:

full/ultra = largest cases fits most all mobo XL/EATX and smaller
mid = normal desktop size fits ATX and smaller
SFF = fits mATX and/or ITX


Ahhh I always thought ATX was a case sizing..... Thank you for clarifying that. So mATX would be good because it can fit all manner of cases then?


In that respect yes they are. They usually carry a slight price premium with them (over ATX) because it is more difficult to fit basically the same number of components onto a smaller PCB (board).


I see, so an ATX board priced a bit lower than the mATX is probably just as good, just bigger?


Basically yes. but see what Icaraeus said I got the mATX and ITX confused. price shouldn't be too significant between mATX and ATX.
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May 9, 2014 7:29:09 PM

Icaraeus said:
ATX boards are almost-always priced HIGHER than mATX boards. mATX boards have basically the same features as ATX boards, though ATX boards have the space to add a couple extra stuff like more USB, more PCI-E slots (extra GPU, network card etc.)

AMD and Nvidia go head-to-head in the mid range and high end markets, though AMD generally leads the lower-end market.


I thought Micro ATX boards tended to generate more heat. Is the only real difference that you forgo some small things? It would be nice to save money, I've been looking at the Asus Gryphon Z87, and now the Z97 Gryphon, but the heat generation I've read about in mATX boards worries me now.

I think I will go Nvidia, I feel more comfortable with them.
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May 10, 2014 6:58:22 AM

MrCanEHdian said:
Icaraeus said:
ATX boards are almost-always priced HIGHER than mATX boards. mATX boards have basically the same features as ATX boards, though ATX boards have the space to add a couple extra stuff like more USB, more PCI-E slots (extra GPU, network card etc.)

AMD and Nvidia go head-to-head in the mid range and high end markets, though AMD generally leads the lower-end market.


I thought Micro ATX boards tended to generate more heat. Is the only real difference that you forgo some small things? It would be nice to save money, I've been looking at the Asus Gryphon Z87, and now the Z97 Gryphon, but the heat generation I've read about in mATX boards worries me now.

I think I will go Nvidia, I feel more comfortable with them.


The boards themselves don't actually generate more heat but since they are usually placed in a smaller case you have to more careful with making sure you have good airflow to keep everything cool. A lot of times in larger cases you can through everything in it and not have to worry about airflow. It isn't hard to do you just have to pay a little bit of attention. There are plenty of people that set up gaming rigs in mATX cases. Blower style cards help with it because all the hot air goes out the back of the case. EVGA has some good Nvidia OC blower cards.
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May 12, 2014 4:00:07 PM

Spectre694 said:
MrCanEHdian said:
Icaraeus said:
ATX boards are almost-always priced HIGHER than mATX boards. mATX boards have basically the same features as ATX boards, though ATX boards have the space to add a couple extra stuff like more USB, more PCI-E slots (extra GPU, network card etc.)

AMD and Nvidia go head-to-head in the mid range and high end markets, though AMD generally leads the lower-end market.


I thought Micro ATX boards tended to generate more heat. Is the only real difference that you forgo some small things? It would be nice to save money, I've been looking at the Asus Gryphon Z87, and now the Z97 Gryphon, but the heat generation I've read about in mATX boards worries me now.

I think I will go Nvidia, I feel more comfortable with them.


The boards themselves don't actually generate more heat but since they are usually placed in a smaller case you have to more careful with making sure you have good airflow to keep everything cool. A lot of times in larger cases you can through everything in it and not have to worry about airflow. It isn't hard to do you just have to pay a little bit of attention. There are plenty of people that set up gaming rigs in mATX cases. Blower style cards help with it because all the hot air goes out the back of the case. EVGA has some good Nvidia OC blower cards.


I would like a larger case just for that reason, both to not worry so much about not having appropriate airflow, and so there's room for the future. I don't know much about GPUs, but when I want to know something, I often go look at EVGA, glad you agree. I will probably go with one of their cards, and look for the blower portion, regardless of the size of my tower, just to be safe. Thanks!
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