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April 20, 2014 5:03:09 PM

Jesus, right.
No B/S. No fanboys. Just some plain advice. Somebody save me from shooting myself.

This is my list:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3vobh

I have been recommended the i5 4670 by many people over the FX-8320 in my gaming rig.
I have been recommended the CM Hyper 212 evo as a heatsink.

I want a chip that I can use for a long time, that is reliable, that I won't NEED to overclock in most situations but I HAVE THE OPTION to do so when I want.
I've been told that if I want to overclock, to get the K version. The non-k version is pushing it by the price anyway. If I'm not overclocking, I don't need the heatsink. But then, I need one as the core runs hot...

H.E.L.P ME!

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April 20, 2014 5:13:36 PM

The 4670 is a great processor, but according to Newegg the 4670K is actually a bit cheaper than the 4670.. I don't know how that works out but if the website is to be believed then the 4670K right now is cheaper than the 4670. I would highly recommend getting the 4670K over the 4670 even if it does cost more, because it gives you the freedom to overclock. When I first got my PC I thought I would never overclock and if I did, it would be after a few years and part upgrades elsewhere. I built my PC back in late December and ended up overclocking the processor in mid January, and am glad I did it. Trust me, with the 4670 you have no option besides maybe .1 GHz if you're lucky, you might as well spend a little bit more and give yourself the freedom and option to OC your parts.
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April 20, 2014 5:15:35 PM

If you want the option to overclock, get the 4670k. Stock settings with it will be more than enough.
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April 20, 2014 5:22:57 PM

Just out of interest what games were you playing the most and why did you decide to overclock?
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April 20, 2014 5:31:22 PM

tamethegamer said:
Just out of interest what games were you playing the most and why did you decide to overclock?


Honestly, I didn't really need to overclock, but the reason I did was because of poor system performance in Battlefield 4. In reality, this was due to the game being poorly optimized at the time and not the fault of the hardware, but I wasn't sure, so I decided to overclock. Also, in some games, I would notice at some strange areas my framerate would drop a fair amount and at the same time my GPU usage would become low as well. Basically everywhere that I went to see if overclocking was a good/bad idea said that you really have nothing to worry about and it's almost free extra performance and you should do it, so I did.

I played games such as BF4, BF3, GTA IV, Saint's Row IV, Crysis 2, Garry's Mod, Metro: Last Light, Shadow Warrior, Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed IV, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon, just to name a few. Some games (GMod and Crysis 2 the most) didn't really gain anything out of my overclock because they either aren't stressing my hardware (Gmod), or were mostly relying on the power of my GPU (Crysis 2). Some games I saw little to no benefit (I believe Last Light only gave me like 2-3 FPS after bringing my CPU from 3.9 to 4.4 GHZ, and Battlefield 4 still ran like crap), while in others there was a tangible boost(before Shadow Warrior spent a lot of time in the sub-60 framerates since it is heavy on the CPU, but after it was 60+ more often than not).

In short it is up to you whether or not you decide to overclock. With the 4670(k), you probably won't need to overclock to keep up with your GPU, however it could give you a boost in some games, and it is always better to have the option to do so in case you end up needing to in the future.
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April 20, 2014 5:31:33 PM

Options can be a pain agreed the key id to evaluate them in terms that only give you options you're likely to use... and sometimes given we don't always know what will be coming down the pike in the future so?? best to plan for the requirement being more than you can estimate now... that said my own approach is getting as much as the budget allows in terms of bang for the buck. The K series version of the chip allows you to boost performance should you need it. On price checker the listed difference is 12 pounds and I'll add 12 pounds isn't a lot for the option of being able to increase performance a significant amount if required.

What you could plan is to start out getting the K series chip and hold off on the 212 as you can just as easily run the K series chip on default setting using the stock intel cooler which is exactly what you would be doing with the i5 4670 non-K chip.

Later on if it proves you'd like to or need to OC you can and evaluate relative to what you're doing if the performance boost sends the temps too high for comfort ... then add the after market cooler to manage those temps.

As for AMD vs Intel I personally just don't feel the AMD offers the same versatility that exist with the Intel and I add I need, want and value versatility. Amd though I've not owned one in a long time can be as I understand it a decent value when used in a setting it performs well at. But it's almost like talking religion or politics when the opinions start up s I'll leave at that :) 

Hope that helps.
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April 20, 2014 5:33:31 PM

you also have a z87 motherboard chosen, its somewhat pointless getting a unlocked motherboard but locked cpu
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April 20, 2014 5:48:19 PM

Thank you for taking the time to reply in detail to my questions. Sometimes, I find it difficult to get a) Good and useful answers and b) justification for those answers. I deeply appreciate it, thanks again!
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April 20, 2014 5:49:20 PM

That did help, a lot in fact! Thank you very much for the answer and detail :D 
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April 20, 2014 5:57:00 PM

just wondering have you decided what to go with? for a final build
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April 20, 2014 6:13:15 PM

Tamethegamer that list update looks good... enjoy! I think it will be a lot of fun... Cheers
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April 21, 2014 1:55:21 PM

thats a very good build, im glad you got a straight answer you wanted :) 
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