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April 21, 2014 2:29:27 AM

Hello

It's my first time preparing to build a gaming computer and I need help deciding on parts.
I am a causal gamer that plays Rome 2, BioShock Infinite, and Far Cry 3.

For the build I prefer a black and green colour theme.

So far my system components are:

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/3vD1m

Case: NZXT Phantom 530 Case Black

Motherboard: Gigabyte G1 Sniper Z87 Motherboard

CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K

CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i CPU Cooler

Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB OC Edition

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro CMY16GX3M2A2133C11 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3

Solid State Drive: Samsung 840 EVO Series 250GB SSD

Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB 24x DVDRW OEM

Power Supply: Seasonic G-650 80Plus Gold 650W OEM or Corsair CS650M Modular 80 Plus Gold Power Supply

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM

Extra fans: NZXT FZ 200mm Green LED Fan x2 Top mounted NZXT FZ 140mm Green LED Fan x1 side mounted

Lighting: NZXT Sleeved LED Cable 200cm Green

Monitor: BenQ XL2411T 24in LED 144Hz Gaming Monitor

-In regards to CPU cooling will the push/pull method work by using the two stock 120mm fans to push air into the radiator which is top mounted and 2 NZXT FZ 200mm Green LED Fans mounted on the top of the case pull air out to act as exhaust?

-Any suggestions on a mid tower case that would fit my black/green colour theme and still fit all my components as room is an issue?

-Any suggestions on a "more bang for your buck" graphics card that balances performance with cost and that would still work with my build/monitor as the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB OC Edition is a bit pricey?

-Is 650W power supply adequate for the system can it accommodate potential over-clocking of the CPU if I decide to later?

Am I missing something for example cables ect?

Open for any suggestions or ideas.

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April 21, 2014 2:38:47 AM

You could get a Radeon R9 290X instead of the GTX 780 Ti, it's only slightly slower but costs quite a bit less. It also has more VRAM. The Sapphire Tri-X version is pretty good.
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April 21, 2014 2:44:26 AM

Sakkura said:
You could get a Radeon R9 290X instead of the GTX 780 Ti, it's only slightly slower but costs quite a bit less. It also has more VRAM. The Sapphire Tri-X version is pretty good.


I agree with getting a 290X, I believe the extra VRAM will be of use, do you not like the NZXT Phantom case? You likely want to get some thermal paste such as Arctic Silver 5 or MX4. Also You may want to get a better power supply to leave you more room for upgrades in the future, such as SLI/Crossfire

EDIT: But considering the price difference in a R9 290X and an R9 290 such as this it makes more sense to go with a 290: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h290qm4gd
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April 21, 2014 2:45:10 AM

Everything is looking perfect, i'd swap out the i5 for the i7 if all youre doing is gaming, but if you have extra to spend or are planning to render videos, then an i7 is a must

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
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April 21, 2014 2:46:34 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($389.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($235.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($239.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($835.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($145.44 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($21.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($9.19 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($9.19 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.40 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.40 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.40 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $2634.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 19:41 EST+1000)

Firstly, I have that Motherboard and it Overclocks amazingly for it's price.
I changed the fans to 2x 140mm for the front intakes, 1x 140mm for the Rear Exahust and 2x 120mm for the H100i for air to be pushed through the Rad. You're not missing any cables, however if you're only going to game then the i5 4670k is best and would allow you to spend more on other parts. I also couldn't find the Lighting to put on the list so sorry for that.
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April 21, 2014 2:49:22 AM

I'd just get 1600 MHz ram.
You can't really feel the difference in performance with 2133 MHz ram anyway.
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April 21, 2014 2:55:18 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vDEt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vDEt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3vDEt/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($167.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($160.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($153.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($509.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($100.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($98.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411T 144Hz 24.0" Monitor
Case Fan: NZXT FN-140RB 62.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($8.09 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-200mm LED 103.0 CFM 200mm Fan ($17.99 @ Mwave)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-200mm LED 103.0 CFM 200mm Fan ($17.99 @ Mwave)
Total: $1835.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 06:08 EDT-0400)

Few changes for case,OS,GPU,PSU

GTX 780 is good for games like Bioshock Infinity, Far Cry 3 etc.,
go with windows 8.1 64 Bit., it will supports Direct X 12.
750 PSU is need for stability.
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April 21, 2014 3:18:41 AM

patrick47018 said:
Sakkura said:
You could get a Radeon R9 290X instead of the GTX 780 Ti, it's only slightly slower but costs quite a bit less. It also has more VRAM. The Sapphire Tri-X version is pretty good.


I agree with getting a 290X, I believe the extra VRAM will be of use, do you not like the NZXT Phantom case? You likely want to get some thermal paste such as Arctic Silver 5 or MX4. Also You may want to get a better power supply to leave you more room for upgrades in the future, such as SLI/Crossfire

EDIT: But considering the price difference in a R9 290X and an R9 290 such as this it makes more sense to go with a 290: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h290qm4gd


Thanks for the suggestion i'll look into the R9 290x. In regards to the NZXT 530 Phantom case I love it but I share a desk and don't have much room to work with I will try and make it work but if there was a mid tower case that can fit my black/green colour build that would be helpful.

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April 21, 2014 5:07:06 AM

Thanks for the replies

Okay i'll grab some thermal paste such as Arctic Silver 5 or MX4.

Thanks Sakkura and patrick47018. Wow Sapphire Tri-X version is really appealing and more in my price range $549 from PCCG. It's a long card but with a set up like this should be fine. http://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/LnU

Sapphire Tri-X has "true audio" what does that mean and how can I make use of it?

So in regards to power supply what do you think of Corsair RM-650 80 Plus Gold Power Supply is it enough?

I am not planning to do much over clocking maybe the CPU a little however I did hear that the Sapphire Tri-X can suck some power.

patrick47018 hahaha that memory looks amazing: http://youtu.be/dyT-M8voCEc?t=3m59s I love it!
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April 21, 2014 5:10:09 AM

I'd switch to a XFX PSU. They're made by Seasonic = highest quality.
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April 21, 2014 5:12:00 AM

Edric Midnightmonster said:
Everything is looking perfect, i'd swap out the i5 for the i7 if all youre doing is gaming, but if you have extra to spend or are planning to render videos, then an i7 is a must

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor


How is Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor better for gaming than the i7? How does it work and what do you look for in Gaming as far as CPUs are concerned?
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April 21, 2014 5:16:58 AM

It's not better than the i7, they're pretty much the same in most games.
The problem is, most games do not utilize the Core i7.
Therefore a Core i5 performs the same as a Core i7 in these games.
In the future, however, more games may utilize the Core i7.
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April 21, 2014 6:11:09 AM

Robredo said:
Sapphire Tri-X has "true audio" what does that mean and how can I make use of it?

So in regards to power supply what do you think of Corsair RM-650 80 Plus Gold Power Supply is it enough?

True Audio means the graphics card has an integrated audio processor, which can enable improved audio effects without affecting the CPU load. It has to be supported by games though, and so far very few games support it (Thief is the first one AFAIK).

The power supply is about right for your system. The Corsair RM series has had some quality issues, but apparently they've been addressed. They otherwise have very high-end features and specifications.
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April 21, 2014 3:26:20 PM

The Corsair CM650 should be a good one. We don't get XFX PSUs in Australia
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April 21, 2014 4:38:37 PM

i7Baby said:
The Corsair CM650 should be a good one. We don't get XFX PSUs in Australia

Yes you do.
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April 21, 2014 5:24:28 PM

Not at PCCG, MSY or CPL. Where then?
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April 22, 2014 5:22:10 AM

PsychoGamingLemon said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($389.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($235.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($239.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($835.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($145.44 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($21.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($9.19 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 43.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($9.19 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.40 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.40 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre LED 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($13.40 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $2634.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 19:41 EST+1000)

Firstly, I have that Motherboard and it Overclocks amazingly for it's price.
I changed the fans to 2x 140mm for the front intakes, 1x 140mm for the Rear Exahust and 2x 120mm for the H100i for air to be pushed through the Rad. You're not missing any cables, however if you're only going to game then the i5 4670k is best and would allow you to spend more on other parts. I also couldn't find the Lighting to put on the list so sorry for that.


Thanks for the reply why would you go x2 140mm fans in front instead of 1 200mm? How is it better?

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April 22, 2014 8:23:34 AM

i7Baby said:
Not at PCCG, MSY or CPL. Where then?

Click the link.
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April 22, 2014 4:46:37 PM

What link?
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April 22, 2014 5:15:31 PM

Tanks - hadn't come across them before. Might be OK for the OP but not me. They're in Perth, I'm in Melbourne - 3000km away. The Antec or Corsair or Seasonic would be found easier here.
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April 22, 2014 5:39:14 PM

Sakkura said:
The one in my post... Here it is again, in case you spot a link by the http:// rather than blue text.

http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=613...


Okay thats great on special at the moment for $139 cost $17 in postage I think i'll go with that anything closer?

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April 22, 2014 8:29:37 PM

Robredo said:
Edric Midnightmonster said:
Everything is looking perfect, i'd swap out the i5 for the i7 if all youre doing is gaming, but if you have extra to spend or are planning to render videos, then an i7 is a must

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor


How is Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor better for gaming than the i7? How does it work and what do you look for in Gaming as far as CPUs are concerned?


As in better i meant better bang for your buck for gaming purposes :p  my mistake
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April 22, 2014 10:31:03 PM

Edric Midnightmonster said:
Robredo said:
Edric Midnightmonster said:
Everything is looking perfect, i'd swap out the i5 for the i7 if all youre doing is gaming, but if you have extra to spend or are planning to render videos, then an i7 is a must

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor


How is Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor better for gaming than the i7? How does it work and what do you look for in Gaming as far as CPUs are concerned?


As in better i meant better bang for your buck for gaming purposes :p  my mistake


Oh ic there is roughly $120 difference in price between the 2 CPUs I personally am going for the i7 cause I can afford it and I wish to keep this build for potentially 4-5 yrs with perhaps a couple of minor component upgrades along the way.
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