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Xeon E3 or i5 4670k for gaming?

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April 21, 2014 7:38:01 PM

Hi,

So currently I'm looking at something like this for a build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jabulaniman/saved/4qPK

Will be playing stuff like BF4, Witcher 3, ESO, Titanfall, Watch Dogs etc. I would like it to last, to be able to handle upcoming games in the next upcoming years.

Which CPU is better for gaming at base clocks? How much could I overlock the i5 with that current build and what do I need to overclock it more (specifics, if possible)

Im going to Microcenter tomorrow where the i5 is on sale for 180$ or something, so can really save money there.

My budget is around 1100$ or so.

Thanks in advance

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April 21, 2014 7:41:08 PM

I am not a fan of overclocking so I would get the i5 4570 at microcenter for $159, get a B85 or H87 motherboard, scrap the cpu cooler, and add either a ssd or upgrade to the GTX780.
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April 21, 2014 7:48:20 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3w8Pm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3w8Pm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3w8Pm/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($21.14 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.85 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Cooler Master CM Storm Xornet Wired Optical Mouse ($14.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1173.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 22:48 EDT-0400)
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April 22, 2014 6:26:52 AM

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April 22, 2014 6:51:24 AM

CTurbo said:
I am not a fan of overclocking so I would get the i5 4570 at microcenter for $159, get a B85 or H87 motherboard, scrap the cpu cooler, and add either a ssd or upgrade to the GTX780.


Agreed.
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April 22, 2014 6:57:17 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($32.17 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1227.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-22 09:57 EDT-0400)
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April 22, 2014 7:41:57 AM

Man, everyone's beat me to it. If you ask me, OCing isn't worth the extra cost of an unlocked processor + capable motherboard, an aftermarket heatsink, your time, and the added stress it puts on other components that weren't designed to run past their rated values - not when the performance gain is so small in comparison to spending the money elsewhere on better hardware.

You'll definitely want an SSD in this system - skeptical as I was a few years back, I couldn't live without my Crucial M4 at this point. Everything is just so much more responsive, and boot times are basically nonexistent. It's worth the money.

Go with G.Skill for your memory - there's no reason not to, when it's the same price (if not cheaper) and is probably the most reputable memory brand on the market right now. There's a reason their memory is soaking up the first few pages on NewEgg when sorted by highest rating - it just works, and works well.

I had that exact keyboard before I got my laptop - it's nice, but if you're a HEAVY user, be prepared for the gloss finish to wear down rather quickly... I'd have to recommend going with something else if this is the case. It's especially annoying when the backlight starts showing through those spots where the black finish wears away. As much as I liked it at the time, be wary of high-gloss peripherals that basically attract dirt and whatever else happens to come in contact with them. Just a word of advice from personal experience.
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April 22, 2014 10:03:13 AM

Thanks for the advice so far guys. I decided ill scrap the 4670k.

But do you think the extra money for a Xeon instead of a non-k i5 like 2550-4670 or something is worth it?

And matt, how much SSD would you recommend?
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April 22, 2014 10:14:05 AM

If the i5 4570 was not on sale for $159, I would say go for the Xeon e3-1230v3, but I would not pass up the 4570 at that price.

120GB ssd is big enough for windows and all programs. If you want to have more than a couple of games on it, I recommend 240GB+
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April 22, 2014 11:43:45 AM

^Agreed.

I have a 256GB Crucial M4 myself (I'd recommend Crucial or Samsung), and have it about half of the way filled, give or take 20 gigs depending on the season; be careful with program installs and you can get away with a 128GB, but I'd recommend going with 240+ like CTurbo said, even if to just avoid having it filled to capacity. It wears them down quite a bit faster when that happens. You'll have to judge how many applications you want to have installed to it instead of a slower secondary drive, and go from there.

The Xeon e3 is a great processor - it's essentially an i7 minus the integrated graphics and OCing ability, which I think is amazing. That said, an i5-4570 for $159 is unbeatable.
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April 24, 2014 4:29:26 PM

someguynamedmatt said:
^Agreed.

I have a 256GB Crucial M4 myself (I'd recommend Crucial or Samsung), and have it about half of the way filled, give or take 20 gigs depending on the season; be careful with program installs and you can get away with a 128GB, but I'd recommend going with 240+ like CTurbo said, even if to just avoid having it filled to capacity. It wears them down quite a bit faster when that happens. You'll have to judge how many applications you want to have installed to it instead of a slower secondary drive, and go from there.

The Xeon e3 is a great processor - it's essentially an i7 minus the integrated graphics and OCing ability, which I think is amazing. That said, an i5-4570 for $159 is unbeatable.


Microcenter didnt have any 4570s unfortunately. I ended up getting an i7 4770k for 250$, which was only 30 more than a Xeon :D 

And a gtx 770.
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April 25, 2014 6:28:19 AM

Microcenter combo deals are difficult to beat as well, especially when you want something same day. That is how I ended up with my 3570k and z77 extreme4. :lol: 
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