Installing new ide hard drive?

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shepard91

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Hi guys, I have installed windows 8 on an old ide drive (because my mobo suddenly decided that sata is not ok anymore -.-) set as a master and put in the middle of the ide data cable.
Now, I'd like to add a new one at the end of the cable but, when I do, it does two things:
1)If I plug the new hd without setting the jumpers, it just won't be recognized (obviously) but the pc will be like if I did nothing;
2)If I plug it after setting it to slave or cable select, it won't be recognized either but I won't even be able to get into the bios because of a never ending "wait" screen. Or, sometimes, windows just won't start. However, if I unplug the hd I can access the bios just fine.
I'm pretty sure this has something to do with a mistake I'm doing, because I tried this with two different hdds and it's always the same story. Also, both of them work like charm on my old pc.
Any suggestions?

Thanks, and sorry for my bad english, It's not my mother tongue.
 
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Setting BOTH drives to "Cable Select" will work, but you must realize then that the one connected to the END of the ribbon cable WILL be the Master drive for the port. This does NOT mean that it also must be your boot drive. You usually get to set which drive is to boot from in BIOS.

Your posts don't agree. In the first one you say, "an old ide drive ... set as a master and put in the middle of the ide data cable". All the IDE ribbon cables I've used have the BLACK connector on the END, and this one should be plugged into the HDD that has its jumpers set to be the Master device. The GREY connector is in the MIDDLE of the cable, but you say you plugged the old drive into the black connector in the middle. Please check these.

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You have three 40 pin block connectors.

The blue end or longest cable span between two blocks should be plugged into the motherboard.

If you set a drive to be Master it must be connected to the black color block from the ribbon cable.

The gray block must be connected to the drive set as a slave device.
If you Mix the priority of the drives with the wrong color block it will cause your system to halt as because of the order.

Black= Master set drive Grey= Slave set Drive via jumpers.
 
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Why have jumpers on the drive for master, slave, and cable select if you need to place them on the ribbon cable properly? The only time you need to worry about cable position is when the drives are jumpered for cable select otherwise a drive jumpered as master or slave will override the cable position.
 
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Uhm..I checked and that is exactly how I set the cable in the first place...blue on the motheboard, black connector on the windows 8 hd which is jumpered as a master, nothing on the grey connector, which is where I tried the two drives.
Anyway I took a look on the master hd and think the problem might be the jumper settings. In fact, the label shows only two jumper configurations:
-the current one, that states "master = on, slave = off". (Does this mean this setting automatically "turns off" the slave?)
-the second one, "cable select".
Should I try to set both the drives to the cable select setting? And, by doing so, am I risking something as a data loss or something else? Thanks for the answer btw, to both you and the mod.
 
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Setting BOTH drives to "Cable Select" will work, but you must realize then that the one connected to the END of the ribbon cable WILL be the Master drive for the port. This does NOT mean that it also must be your boot drive. You usually get to set which drive is to boot from in BIOS.

Your posts don't agree. In the first one you say, "an old ide drive ... set as a master and put in the middle of the ide data cable". All the IDE ribbon cables I've used have the BLACK connector on the END, and this one should be plugged into the HDD that has its jumpers set to be the Master device. The GREY connector is in the MIDDLE of the cable, but you say you plugged the old drive into the black connector in the middle. Please check these.

The label on the HDD has confused you. What it means is that if you place the jumper ON the two pins indicated, that makes this unit the Master device. If you don't ("off"), then it is a Slave. So to use that old HDD as a Master you place a jumper on those pins. This will NOT de-activate any other HDD set as a Slave. By the way, on some IDE drives there were different jumper settings for Master with no Slave present, and Master with Slave. If yours is like that, set the jumper accordingly.

For the second HDD, do NOT try to use the jumper settings from the first drive. Use the diagram on that second drive to set its jumper. Often they are different.

It is certainly advisable to plug the HDD set to be Master into the BLACK connector on the END of the ribbon cable, and the Slave unit into the GREY connector in the MIDDLE. Some BIOS's can figure it out if you do this backwards and fix the problem, but some cannot.
 
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