Still no display from new videocard.

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This was my previous thread:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2114156/vga-port-onboard-video-card-isnt-working.html

So I bought a new video card and installed it in the case. Now when i start up my computer it still doesnt give display. The monitor and cables are fine i tested them on a different computer.
The minimal requirements for the video card were 450 watts of power.

The psu of the computer has the following:

- Total output continuous shall not exceed 250 watts
- Ac input 220-230 V
- 230 VAC

So is this videocard not getting enough power? and is that why i get no display on the monitor?

 
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That explains the bad power supply, Packard Bell is well known to make poor quality systems using cheap parts.

You have a fairly slow system overall, but a Radeon 6450 will run in it fine, that is a low power card.
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That's because there are not a lot of cards that will work with a 250 watt power supply that are any good. List your full system specs, brand, model, CPU, power supply brand and model and what you expect out of the video card. I'll tell you now that without a power supply upgrade you will not get any decent video cards for gaming at good settings. The Radeon R7 240 may work for you, it's a low end gaming card.

I'm a bit confused as to why you even had to check on this issue, the card states 450 watt minimum (although that is almost always over-rated by 10-20% or so) and your power supply is 250 watt. Can't be clearer as where the problem is.
 
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You will be really hard pressed to find a card that will run on 250watt PSU ,
you already have a card so rather than not use that and spend more money on another card you would be better of spending $50 - $70 on a good 500 or 550 watt corsair/seasonic PSU and then you will have stable power with a good supply and a warranty and can power your good card , win win all around
 
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Hey thanks for all your responses.

So i went to return the video card to the store today. Got a full refund, and asked the guy at the store some questions and showed him this :
- Total output continuous shall not exceed 250 watts
- Ac input 220-230 V
- 230 VAC

And he said it should be able to run a 450watt videocard. He thought it would have to be some compatibility issues. (without seeing my computer).
Im really confused now and im not sure what to do. By the way it isnt a computer for gaming its just needed for surfing the web and everyday stuff.
 
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The guy at the store is wrong. The MAX your power supply will put out is 250 watts. In normal use, that is probably 200 for most power supplies unless they are high quality. If your card wants a 450 watt power supply, it probably uses 100 watts or more, just for the card, not counting the CPU, hard drive, DVD drive and motherboard power needs. Not only that, it would need a decent amp amount on the 12v rail, which many cheaper and low power power supplies will not have. Just because the power supply will be able to send enough power to the video card only does not mean it will have enough power for the rest of the computer.

I read the first post, you have no display on your motherboard to begin with, you may have a dead motherboard and no new video card will help you in that case.

List your computer specs, brand, model, case type, power supply brand and model. If you bought a video card that needs a 450 watt PSU (realistically it will be about a 400 watt maybe less that it will want), you overspend on just a basic card. The lower end cards you should be looking at will run on a 300 watt or less power supply.
 
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What would be the number on the computer ill be looking for? Since i have no display on the computer i cant check all components and specs with a program.
 
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There should be a sticker with the model # somewhere it it's a pre-built system. If it was done using custom parts you need to get the model of the motherboard and look for the other model numbers on the parts for the case and power supply.
 
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Alright i have googled the productnumber and here are the specs:

- processor 1.8 GHz intel Pentium dual core

- 2GB DDR2-SDRAM

- 360 GB Hardrive

- NVIDIA geforce 7050

- Maximum graphics adapter memory : 895 MB

I couldnt find much about the power supply, the model name of the pc is: Packard Bell iStart D2226
 
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I opened the case and wrote down what i could find on the psu.

The model number is : FSP250-60HEN

The brand is : FSP group inc.

This is what i found when i googled it:

FSP FSP250-60HEN 250 Watt ATX Power Supply

The unit has the connectors listed below

1 x 20/24-pin ATX Connector
1 x 4-pin P4 Connector
3 x Molex IDE Connector
1 x Floppy Connector
1 x SATA Connector

Dimensions of the unit are: 150mm x 140mm x 85mm

Have i provided enough information for a compatible videocard?
Because i dont really know what to look for right now and i was hoping someone could help me.
If more information is needed just let me know.
 
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I also found this on the PSU:

+3.3V --------- 17.0A(ORG)

+5V ----------- 18.0A(RED)

+12V1 -------- 8.0A(YEL)

+5Vsb -------- 2.0A(PURP)

-12V ---------- 0.3A(BLUE)

+12V2 -------- 14.0A(YEL/BLK)

(+3.3V & +5V = 115W max)

So if someone can explain to me what this means that would be great.
And again im just looking for a videocard for standard things not gaming.
 
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That explains the bad power supply, Packard Bell is well known to make poor quality systems using cheap parts.

You have a fairly slow system overall, but a Radeon 6450 will run in it fine, that is a low power card.
 
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hmm on second thought the videocard i bought the other day was a ASUS Radeon 5450 and it didnt work. Does that mean the motherboard isnt working correctly?
 
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The problem is i have no display. The computer boots etc. the disk tray of the dvd drive still opens / keyboard lights flickering when booting up. But i cant change anything in the bios since the onboard vga port seems to be broken and i didnt get display from the videocard i bought.
 
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Should have started with this, you may have a dead motherboard or power supply. Often people ask the wrong question or skip providing important details which is why I asked you about the onboard video. You don't have an issue with the new video card, you have a pre-existing issue with your computer. If both onboard and add-on video don't work, chances are it has nothing to do with the video card. Although that first one with a 450 watt requirement for sure would not have worked even if everything else was working.

For that model computer, I would not spend money trying to fix it unless you will have a hard time moving your stuff over to a new system.

You can get a used system faster than yours for about $100, or less, with a 2.4 gig + Core 2 Duo CPU and maybe even an add-on video card that's fast enough to play games on. You can just install your existing drive into an external enclosure or as a secondary internal drive to copy your files over and to use as a backup drive.
 
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Don't start a new thread, otherwise things will get confusing as to what is going on. Just update this one.
 
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If you can find the parts for under $100, would be cheaper, but you will still have a low speed system for the same price, if not more, with the additional work of having to install everything. I think your best action would be to just replace the whole system. If it was one that's only a few years old with good parts, you should replace the bad parts. This Packard Bell system with a slow CPU, not really worth trying to spend money one. Even if you spend $50 on it, you're a lot better off spending $100 on a faster Core 2 Duo system.
 
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