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AMD R9 290 vs Nvidia GTX 780??

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April 24, 2014 7:32:11 AM

I'm getting a new card soon and just need to be sure which is worth the money
I know that people prefer 780(non ti) rather than 290(non x). But the 290 is about AUD50 cheaper than 780 and performed similarly. Why people suggest 780 rather than 290?

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April 24, 2014 7:38:32 AM

Mainly because the 780 runs cooler and quieter. But as long as you get a 290 with a good cooler which is quiet you will be fine.
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April 24, 2014 7:49:35 AM

Thaiger said:
I'm getting a new card soon and just need to be sure which is worth the money
I know that people prefer 780(non ti) rather than 290(non x). But the 290 is about AUD50 cheaper than 780 and performed similarly. Why people suggest 780 rather than 290?


I have had to many problems with the 290, they run hot and they use a lot of power. I Used to run 7870s, 7970's and would always recommend them over Nvidia cards, but now that's changed. I would suggest getting a 780 Zotac, it comes with Daylight and the Splinter cell series of games. That 780 is the 2nd highest in performance for 780s. It beats 290's in any benchmark I put it through by a margin of 2-8%. Only game the 290 really does better in is BF4, but even that is only by a slight margin.

AMAZING DEAL!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... its only $470, thats alot better then most 290s. Plus amzing cooling.
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April 24, 2014 7:40:22 AM

Thaiger said:
I'm getting a new card soon and just need to be sure which is worth the money
I know that people prefer 780(non ti) rather than 290(non x). But the 290 is about AUD50 cheaper than 780 and performed similarly. Why people suggest 780 rather than 290?


Get a non-reference 290 (like lightning - something with a better cooler). The GPU is less expensive and actually performs better than the 780 in most games. Also, they over clock easily pushing the performance even more.
I like the software of AMD as well - for example - most games I play i can use V-Sync and when getting bellow 60 FPS I don't see any choppiness as AMD has built-in triple buffering for most games.
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April 24, 2014 7:45:35 AM

nvidia control panel has the same features, buffering and adaptive vsync.

I used to be an AMD fan boy, until i got fed up with their crossfire drivers. nothing more frustrating than driver crashes/errors multiple times every single night!

i personally switched to nvidia with 770 SLI setup, for the first time in nearly a decade after that, and it's so nice that everything just works!

so keep that in mind if you think you might get 2nd gpu in future
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April 24, 2014 7:50:56 AM

Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!
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April 24, 2014 7:57:31 AM

Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


Their drivers are horrible. Iv had problems with Nvidia at points (random black screen on Planet side 2) but nothing that major that they didn't publicly address and fix in the next update. AMD CF has horrible, even with the older 7970s, there was still micro stuttering in many games. If you think you are paying a premium for Nvidia just remember that they really put effort into there drivers.
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April 24, 2014 8:01:11 AM

Ok thanks.
1 more question: Would 780 bottleneck I5 4670k?
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April 24, 2014 8:01:15 AM

Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


Just an FYI - I've had crash problems with both AMD and Nvidia.
Unfortunately for AMD, they increased the prices because there is a higher demand for the 290s as they crunch numbers better for Bitcoin mining... You may want to go with what Maciek Fulton suggested...
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April 24, 2014 8:04:34 AM

Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


in two years time most likely there will be a single card that able to perform as good as two card of your choice. in three years time it might no longer the best solution to add the second card (and most likely it is very hard to get unused card by that time). but still it is a very cheap way to get extra performance.
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April 24, 2014 8:10:12 AM

renz496 said:
Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


in two years time most likely there will be a single card that able to perform as good as two card of your choice. in three years time it might no longer the best solution to add the second card (and most likely it is very hard to get unused card by that time). but still it is a very cheap way to get extra performance.


Are you suggesting that I should Not SLI on my pc?
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April 24, 2014 8:32:08 AM

Thaiger said:
Ok thanks.
1 more question: Would 780 bottleneck I5 4670k?

I hope you meant the other way around -
The 4670k won't bottleneck the 780, so you should get max performance from the video card.


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April 24, 2014 9:22:02 AM

Thaiger said:
renz496 said:
Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


in two years time most likely there will be a single card that able to perform as good as two card of your choice. in three years time it might no longer the best solution to add the second card (and most likely it is very hard to get unused card by that time). but still it is a very cheap way to get extra performance.


Are you suggesting that I should Not SLI on my pc?


not really. if you're considering a second card for your setup you might want to do it in one year+ time. but i'm not saying the option is closed after that.
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April 24, 2014 9:28:56 AM

Dorosh said:
Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


Just an FYI - I've had crash problems with both AMD and Nvidia.
Unfortunately for AMD, they increased the prices because there is a higher demand for the 290s as they crunch numbers better for Bitcoin mining... You may want to go with what Maciek Fulton suggested...


AMD did not increase the price and they are not getting the extra pie from the price increase. it is directly from retailer simply because of supply and demand situation. when the price of 290X reaching $900 a piece on newegg AMD did contact Newegg for tha matter. then we start seeing much lower price after that although it is still considered as way over MSRP. now the lite coin mining craze has calm down a bit were are seeing more and more normal pricing on radeon cards. also i've heard some miner already flooding the used market with used gpu.
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April 24, 2014 9:32:47 AM

renz496 said:
Thaiger said:
renz496 said:
Thaiger said:
Yes, I will be getting 2nd card in the future(2-3 years). But what if AMD fixed the issues...

I'm also having issues on driver crashes and screen freezing on my current AMD laptop as well!!


in two years time most likely there will be a single card that able to perform as good as two card of your choice. in three years time it might no longer the best solution to add the second card (and most likely it is very hard to get unused card by that time). but still it is a very cheap way to get extra performance.


Are you suggesting that I should Not SLI on my pc?


not really. if you're considering a second card for your setup you might want to do it in one year+ time. but i'm not saying the option is closed after that.


Also, an issue I had with multiple cards was that not every video game is programed to use multiple-GPU's. In the case that the game isn't programmed for it, you get crashing issue's unless one of the cards are turned off. Or in some cases, it's programmed to single out one card, so if the game isn't crashing, it's still using just one card.
On the other hand, if you play mostly first person shooters like BF4, they are programmed to use multiple GUP's very well, and get a good boost.
I found that it was better to sell off the used card and put that money towards buying a newer, single card as they are sometimes faster and you have less issues to deal with.
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