Should I wait for the 5th gen Intel CPUs?
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MartinDaBoss
April 25, 2014 11:36:22 AM
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April 25, 2014 11:41:59 AM
Jennifer Richards
April 25, 2014 11:42:17 AM
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SquirrelPhantom
April 25, 2014 11:44:07 AM
MartinDaBoss said:
I'm planning on building myself a gaming rig at the end of May, but I've just heard about the next gen Intel CPUs so I'm wondering if it's something worth waiting for. Every answer is appreciated. Thanks.
Haswell refresh is early to mid may, from what I have heard. We are already on 4th gen. I would not wait for Broadwell.
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if you live near a microcenter.. go buy the 4770k today. they have them crazy cheap.
as noted.. in this industry, you cant plan 4/5/6 months ahead. 1 month, sure... but you'll never have anything if you're always waiting. b/c surely after broadwell releases, AMD will announce 16 core CPUs or something ridiculous coming in another 4 months
as noted.. in this industry, you cant plan 4/5/6 months ahead. 1 month, sure... but you'll never have anything if you're always waiting. b/c surely after broadwell releases, AMD will announce 16 core CPUs or something ridiculous coming in another 4 months
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MartinDaBoss
April 25, 2014 11:47:09 AM
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Coming from someone who has the current Haswell generation, I would have to say wait. The current gen works great but they do tend to run a bit hot. The up coming gen should be rid of the heat issues which could help with overclock if you are into that kind of thing.Do you know when is the next gen cpu coming out?
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MartinDaBoss
April 25, 2014 11:51:32 AM
lowriderflow said:
if you live near a microcenter.. go buy the 4770k today. they have them crazy cheap.as noted.. in this industry, you cant plan 4/5/6 months ahead. 1 month, sure... but you'll never have anything if you're always waiting. b/c surely after broadwell releases, AMD will announce 16 core CPUs or something ridiculous coming in another 4 months
Did Intel even announce the release date of the next gen chipset?
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SpectreUnleashed
June 27, 2014 7:14:32 PM
Intel officially told that 8 core extreme CPU is coming this fall. We all know that Haswell is not capable of holding more than 4 cores (6 core 4960X and 4930K uses Ivy Bridge) and since they cannot switch back to Ivy or Sandy bridge, they will release it under Broadwell, which is 5th gen. Also chipset will be Z97 for usual CPU's (possibly i7-5770K, i5-5670K IDK just guessing). Z99 and X99 Chipsets will be released for extremes.
Now that games seem like they will utilize more cores, it is logical to wait for 5th generation. Trust me they wont be expensive due to real competition. AMD has 8 cores today but they are cheaper than 4 core Intel since nothing actually utilizes more than 4 cores. When apps use more cores, AMD will get the flag and it will be more popular for a short time. Then, Intel will startselling its 6/8 cores for what AMD sells, because otherwise they will not be able to hold ground in competition.
Now that games seem like they will utilize more cores, it is logical to wait for 5th generation. Trust me they wont be expensive due to real competition. AMD has 8 cores today but they are cheaper than 4 core Intel since nothing actually utilizes more than 4 cores. When apps use more cores, AMD will get the flag and it will be more popular for a short time. Then, Intel will startselling its 6/8 cores for what AMD sells, because otherwise they will not be able to hold ground in competition.
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Johnlava
July 1, 2014 10:46:46 AM
I'm having the same dilemma myself actually, but in my opinion you should just buy one now unless you wait for a sale on the 4th gen Intel CPU. I really doubt ddr4 ram should be that huge of a difference in gaming. The price will probably be ridiculous and most games can't even touch 16gb ddr3. Just go for a i7 4770k and you could play any game at max settings with a mid to high tier graphics card. You could probably get away with the 4770k OC'd for at least another year of high end gaming. Plus they already sell motherboards capable of 4th + 5th gen so you could upgrade easily. On another note I've read about the 5th gen desktop CPU's not being released until mid 2015 anyways.
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Dawis67_AE
July 10, 2014 6:30:47 AM
What about new Intel i7-4790K (the devils Canyon). Its optimised to be better cooled than regular ones, and it better interface and also will have better power delivery due to extra capacitors. it is compatable with 1150 sockets and its 4GHz and can be overclocked to 4.2GHz up to 4.8GHz or even more if you are super lucky. I dont think 5th gen will be that much better. The good thing is that 4790K isnt that expensive compared to older ones like 4770K( at least where i live).
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SoupRice
July 18, 2014 12:01:28 AM
SpectreUnleashed
July 18, 2014 3:31:40 PM
someshets said:
don't wait just do what you want to doDawis67_AE said:
What about new Intel i7-4790K (the devils Canyon). Its optimised to be better cooled than regular ones, and it better interface and also will have better power delivery due to extra capacitors. it is compatable with 1150 sockets and its 4GHz and can be overclocked to 4.2GHz up to 4.8GHz or even more if you are super lucky. I dont think 5th gen will be that much better. The good thing is that 4790K isnt that expensive compared to older ones like 4770K( at least where i live).SoupRice said:
i want to upgrade my crappy AMD X2 955be to i7's but i read i7 4890k doesn't overclock well over 4.4ghz on air so if i get like corsair h110 will i get higher overclock!?To be honest, with a 4790K you will not need much of overclocking. Intels OC stuff is dofferent than AMD's. You mostly can use it at base frequency without bottlenecking anything. Also, a better cooler will have a small difference in extreme OC (4.4+ GHz at 4790K), it may effect a little bit. However, for the same frequency (lets take 4.3 GHz) a liquid cooler will get you better cooling obviously than an air cooler. I do not recommend extreme OC without Intel Performance Protection Plan.
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Suchiang
July 30, 2014 11:25:28 PM
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MartinDaBoss said:
I'm planning on building myself a gaming rig at the end of May, but I've just heard about the next gen Intel CPUs so I'm wondering if it's something worth waiting for. Every answer is appreciated. Thanks.
Depends on what you have now. If you've got something that will allow you to continue gaming comfortably for another few months (probably into early 2015), just wait and see what happens with Broadwell. If you're desperate for something new sooner than that, don't bother waiting.
Usually these processor launches just represent another slim (~5%) IPC improvement that is only incrementally better than the current generation, so its not likely a big deal.
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Dawis67_AE
August 4, 2014 8:36:39 AM
I am not a CPU expert but as long as you dont go for super extreme gaming and still want good CPU with great price buy new 4790K. It uses same 1150 socket and got different thermal thingy making it more heat transfering and lowering temps. Also it comes with 4ghz already and can be overclocked to average 4.3-4.5 ghz
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ADAMMOHD
September 13, 2014 4:16:25 AM
Best solution
dashsabe
September 29, 2014 9:24:39 PM
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ADAMMOHD
September 30, 2014 4:02:42 AM
With smaller and efficient processor, were heading to smaller than nano technology. This means that we are reaching the future concept of having small devices that can do more stuff especially the brain implanting stuff. It is a good step, but smaller processor is unstable, as an example, overclocking Haswell cpus. The results always come out differently
Ps; you can now add more computer components with power efficient cpu like sli/quad with lower power supply
Ps; you can now add more computer components with power efficient cpu like sli/quad with lower power supply
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shpydar
October 15, 2014 4:30:36 PM
Don't get the 4770K it's an i7 and i7's don't clock as well for games as their i5 counterparts. Go with the 4670K or 4690K they are cheaper (more than $100 cheaper) and will work better for gaming than the i7 line.
Starting price for the 5th gen is reported to be $999...
It's not worth the cost when you can get a 4690K for $265 (CDN)
Also the 5th gen is just a “tick” in Intel’s development cycle. This means it shares the same microarchitecture as its predecessor (Haswell) with performance and efficiency improvements provided by the reduced chip size.
I'd say wait but only because once the 5th gen come out the 4th gen's will be marked even cheaper, but unless you've got $3000 to dump on a rig, save on the processor and spend on the vid card and mainboard. That is where you will see the biggest difference.
As for DDR4 ram, it has been released and the costs are ridiculous. $600 for 16GB DDR4 2800Mhz.
You can get 16GB DDR3 2133Mhz Corsair Dominator series for $269, and if you have the right mainboard overclock that to 3300Mhz.
As for the ASUS H97 mainboard line I'd suggest the Z97 line instead. Yes you'll pay about $100 more but you can overclock the processor and ram fairly easily and much higher than the H97 line allows.
Oh the GeForce 900 series have dropped and are in the stores now. For a change they are cheaper than the previous generation. Excellent specs.
I've put together a new rig and here are the specs. Before taxes I'm looking at $1869 CDN
Motherboard
ASUS Z97-Deluxe Socket 1150 Intel Z97 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 3300(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCIe x16 3.0
- 2x Gigabit LAN, 8x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 10x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0
-1x Mini Display Port/DVI/HDMI, ATX
Processor
Intel Core i5-4690K Quad-Core Processor
- Socket LGA1150, 3.5Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm
RAM
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133MHz CL9 DIMMs
Graphic Card
PNY GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5
S.S.D. (Solid State Drive)
Crucial MX100 512GB 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD), Read: 550MB/s Write:500MB/s
Serial ATA Drive (Traditional Hard drive for storage)
WD Black 2TB Desktop Hard Drive - 3.5", SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB Buffer
Case
Corsair Obsidian Series 550D Quiet Mid-Tower Case Black
Power Supply
Corsair RM Series 1000W 80PLUS Gold Certified Power Supply Flat Black Low Profile Modular Cables w/Corsair Link
CPU Cooling
Corsair Hydro Series H100i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler w/LINK -- for Intel LGA 1150, 1155, 1156, 1366, and 2011 & AMD Socket FM1, FM2, AM2, and AM3
Starting price for the 5th gen is reported to be $999...
It's not worth the cost when you can get a 4690K for $265 (CDN)
Also the 5th gen is just a “tick” in Intel’s development cycle. This means it shares the same microarchitecture as its predecessor (Haswell) with performance and efficiency improvements provided by the reduced chip size.
I'd say wait but only because once the 5th gen come out the 4th gen's will be marked even cheaper, but unless you've got $3000 to dump on a rig, save on the processor and spend on the vid card and mainboard. That is where you will see the biggest difference.
As for DDR4 ram, it has been released and the costs are ridiculous. $600 for 16GB DDR4 2800Mhz.
You can get 16GB DDR3 2133Mhz Corsair Dominator series for $269, and if you have the right mainboard overclock that to 3300Mhz.
As for the ASUS H97 mainboard line I'd suggest the Z97 line instead. Yes you'll pay about $100 more but you can overclock the processor and ram fairly easily and much higher than the H97 line allows.
Oh the GeForce 900 series have dropped and are in the stores now. For a change they are cheaper than the previous generation. Excellent specs.
I've put together a new rig and here are the specs. Before taxes I'm looking at $1869 CDN
Motherboard
ASUS Z97-Deluxe Socket 1150 Intel Z97 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 3300(O.C.) MHz, 2x PCIe x16 3.0
- 2x Gigabit LAN, 8x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 10x USB 3.0, 8x USB 2.0
-1x Mini Display Port/DVI/HDMI, ATX
Processor
Intel Core i5-4690K Quad-Core Processor
- Socket LGA1150, 3.5Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm
RAM
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 2133MHz CL9 DIMMs
Graphic Card
PNY GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5
S.S.D. (Solid State Drive)
Crucial MX100 512GB 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD), Read: 550MB/s Write:500MB/s
Serial ATA Drive (Traditional Hard drive for storage)
WD Black 2TB Desktop Hard Drive - 3.5", SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB Buffer
Case
Corsair Obsidian Series 550D Quiet Mid-Tower Case Black
Power Supply
Corsair RM Series 1000W 80PLUS Gold Certified Power Supply Flat Black Low Profile Modular Cables w/Corsair Link
CPU Cooling
Corsair Hydro Series H100i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler w/LINK -- for Intel LGA 1150, 1155, 1156, 1366, and 2011 & AMD Socket FM1, FM2, AM2, and AM3
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