Build, Good or Bad?

Ridwan99

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Hi, I'm not sure about my build. Is there anything bad about it?

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I will be mainly using my PC for gaming and school work. Also, is it worth going with the Intel build and later upgrading my CPU? Please suggest complete new builds too! In addition I do not need: OS, Optical drive, Mice etc.
 

lowriderflow

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definitely the FX build... all the new featured games are supporting up to 8 cores now... so you'll be way ahead in the future vs a dual core i3.

please talk yourself into getting 8gb of RAM (2x4gb) A) any gaming PC really needs more than 4gb these days... but rarely more than 8 B), when you only have one stick, it doesn't run at double data rate... essentally it's speed is cut in half
 

logainofhades

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No need for a Z87 board given the fact you have a locked CPU in the build on the Intel one. You will want 8gb of ram in dual channel as well. I went way cheaper on the motherboard, but was able to squeeze in an i5 and 270x into the build for a cost similar to your Intel build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£128.03 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£32.05 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.10 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (£136.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.74 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £476.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-25 20:57 BST+0100)



 
In either case, I'd get a 2x4GB RAM kit (or 2x2 if your budget is tight) to get dual-channel mode.
I believe that most things will run more quickly on the i3, especially if you do not overclock the FX-6300. If you do decide to overclock, you'll need an aftermarket cooler. Most 120mm tower coolers offer similar performance, which means that usually the frequently-parroted Hyper212 EVO is a bang/buck Loser compared to less expensive competitors from NZXT or Enermax. I bought Xigmatek Gaias myself when they were discounted to $19, and they've been great, although their price has since been jacked.
 

its extremely hard to argue with this build at this price basically you could build an amd version for a little less and get about the same performance but this is just solid

 

Ridwan99

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I will definitely upgrade with another stick of RAM a month after my build and I was thinking of getting the Mobo i chose because it is quite future proof so i could later upgrade to a i5 or even i7 what do you think. Also, is the R9 270x worth it? Shouldn't i just overclock the normal 270?




 

Overclocking the normal 270 will work just as well.
 

Ridwan99

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Do you reccomend a specific R9 270?
 

Not really; I do like the Toxic R9 270x though (this is reference but it is powerful).
 

CTurbo

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PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zefN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zefN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zefN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570S 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor (£139.70 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£32.05 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.10 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (£136.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£31.73 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.34 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £461.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 05:27 BST+0100)
 


+1 this. This is an excellent build.
 

CTurbo

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Don't now what your budget is but for a few more $ this has a much better mobo and a more reliable gpu.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zexw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zexw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3zexw/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570S 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor (£139.70 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£40.43 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.10 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£145.52 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£31.73 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.34 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £478.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 05:38 BST+0100)
 






Don't you think the i5-4570 is worth the extra $4 on amazon instead of the 4570s?
 

CTurbo

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Yes probably. They have the same turbo clock speed but the 4570 is +300mhz which would come in handy.


Looking at it again, the regular 4570 is only £1 more than the 4570s which makes me wonder why I chose the "s" model. I know I did it on purpose, I just don't remember why. Maybe because that's a good deal on the 450w XFX and 450w is a bit on the low end of a 4570 + 270x.
 

Ridwan99

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So i'm thinking of this:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£140.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£40.43 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£31.68 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£129.59 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £468.61

or

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£72.58 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£31.68 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.09 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (£136.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.74 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £451.01

Obviously i will be addind another stick of ram probably 1 month later and i will be upgrading the cpu about 6-7 months later :p
 

logainofhades

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You do not need the z87 board. You can still put an i5 or i7, or my personal favorite, a 1230v3 into that B85 board. Z87 is only necessary for multi card setups or for overclocking, which requires a more expensive k series cpu. Go with the i3, a B85 board, and get 8gb of ram.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£50.38 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.10 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (£136.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.74 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £445.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 16:01 BST+0100)
 

Ridwan99

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Should I get the 8gb Ram straight away or should I buy 1x4gb stick and spend more money on something else and then later buy another stick of Ram?

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£50.38 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.35 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (£136.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £422.22

I'm thinking this ^^^. Turns out my budget is £420 now :( So is this sufficent?

 

logainofhades

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Made some changes, how about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£50.38 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.10 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (£136.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£31.73 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £423.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 19:30 BST+0100)
 
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Ridwan99

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I was thinking of this:

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£50.38 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£30.35 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£149.99 @ Novatech)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £435.23

Is my PSU enough for the GPU?
 

Ridwan99

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Thank you, I really appreciate it. So i'm just going to wait till Christmas time and Black Friday for the prices to be lowered :)