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April 26, 2014 5:57:47 AM

Hey ppl, My system configuration is :

mother board: asus maximus iv gene-z/ gen-3rd
Ram : 4GB DDR3 ( Corsair Manufactured)
CPU:- INTEL CORE I5- 2500K @ 3.30GHZ


my issue is cpu temperature which remains at 53 degree C at normal load or When system is Idle but when i try to play any high end game like burnout paradise, CPU temp rises to 85 degree C or 94 degree C.


Now i need Expert Advice to reduce CPU temp , shall i go for :-

GFX Card
Or
a New CASE for motherboard
or
buy a liquid Cooling System For CPU

I cant buy all above 3 stuff so plz suggest me any best one

I dont have a chassis fan , I use STOCK INTEL CPU fan to cool CPU, is this an ISSUE??



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April 26, 2014 6:02:23 AM

Graphics card won't help with CPU temps. Case or MB won't really help either.

You issue is either a bad heatsink(or fan), or a bad application of thermal paste. You could just get an aftermarket cooler to replace the one you have, and you should be good.
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April 26, 2014 6:12:31 AM

ss202sl said:
Graphics card won't help with CPU temps. Case or MB won't really help either.

You issue is either a bad heatsink(or fan), or a bad application of thermal paste. You could just get an aftermarket cooler to replace the one you have, and you should be good.


Can you please suggest me any efficient cooler.
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April 26, 2014 6:16:56 AM

Spend 30-40 bucks on a Hyper EVO 212 heatsink/fan and you should have no issues. I have a 2550K OC'd at 4.8 GHz that has run stable for 2 years now. No need to go with liquid cooling with that CPU especially if you are not an experienced builder.
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April 26, 2014 6:16:59 AM

first thing I would do is try to lower the the CPU voltage. lower the voltage one level then stress test if stable lower it again and retest till it errors or crashes. Then raise it 2 steps and retest for stability. this will give you the lowest voltage possible and will reduce excess heat generated.

Once running the lowest possible voltage, You find out your still over heating the next cheapest route is to check the fan for spinning at the proper speeds. next is to reapply the thermal paste. If this does not help then an an after market cooler is in order.

EDIT: Just curious why no one ever thinks of the voltage? It causes heat and is the cheapest possible solution. and should always be set as low as possible (while maintaining stability) to save the life of the chip even when OCing you do the same.
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April 26, 2014 6:26:40 AM

bgunner said:
first thing I would do is try to lower the the CPU voltage. lower the voltage one level then stress test if stable lower it again and retest till it errors or crashes. Then raise it 2 steps and retest for stability. this will give you the lowest voltage possible and will reduce excess heat generated.

Once running the lowest possible voltage, You find out your still over heating the next cheapest route is to check the fan for spinning at the proper speeds. next is to reapply the thermal paste. If this does not help then an an after market cooler is in order.

EDIT: Just curious why no one ever thinks of the voltage? It causes heat and is the cheapest possible solution. and should always be set as low as possible (while maintaining stability) to save the life of the chip even when OCing you do the same.


No one suggested this method because I'm not an expert of UnderVolting nor most users are and messingup with Chip's Voltage may damage them permanently :-D
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April 26, 2014 6:35:36 AM

Ahh your not under volting till you actual go under the recommended voltage, lower the voltage will not damage the CPU Over voltage will. chances are that either your pushing way more voltage than need OR the heatsink is not seated properly and needs to have thermal paste re applied.

to stress test the CPU use Intel Burn Test and Prime 95. like I said lower the the voltage by one step at a time till the system errors then raise it by 2 steps and retest for stability. Do this first as it will cost nothing and wont hurt but will help the life of the CPU.
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April 26, 2014 6:39:29 AM

Yeah, if you are Not OC'ing, you should never seen CPU temps that high unless there is a problem with your CPU cooler. Is the CPU cooler fan running? (if not, replace the cooler, I'd go for a 212 EVO, good n not to expensive) Is the cooler all clogged up with dust and dirt? (can of compress air to blow out the dust is cheap n easy). If fan on existing cooler runs fine, and you've cleaned away all the dust n dirt you can remove the CPU cooler and reapply silicon paste. Even a stock cooler will be fine while running games.
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April 26, 2014 6:51:36 AM

HardwareDude83 said:
Spend 30-40 bucks on a Hyper EVO 212 heatsink/fan and you should have no issues. I have a 2550K OC'd at 4.8 GHz that has run stable for 2 years now. No need to go with liquid cooling with that CPU especially if you are not an experienced builder.


Hyper EVO 212 is Having 120mm fan , how do i find which dimension fan i need?
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April 26, 2014 7:08:08 AM

jb6684 said:
Yeah, if you are Not OC'ing, you should never seen CPU temps that high unless there is a problem with your CPU cooler. Is the CPU cooler fan running? (if not, replace the cooler, I'd go for a 212 EVO, good n not to expensive) Is the cooler all clogged up with dust and dirt? (can of compress air to blow out the dust is cheap n easy). If fan on existing cooler runs fine, and you've cleaned away all the dust n dirt you can remove the CPU cooler and reapply silicon paste. Even a stock cooler will be fine while running games.


Dude INTEL'S stock cooler is running fine and i dont see dust anywhere, so i guess issue is with Thermal Paste but instead i'm planning to buy new Cooler like EVO 2012 but i have one issue, when i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia Fan, how do i find which dimension fan i need?
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April 26, 2014 7:14:50 AM

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I dont have a chassis fan , I use STOCK INTEL CPU fan to cool CPU, is this an ISSUE??


All systems need at least ONE case fan! Preferably at the front of the case on the bottom. Failing that, try removing your case side panel and let some fresh air in there!

Yogi
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April 26, 2014 7:17:08 AM

bgunner said:
EDIT: Just curious why no one ever thinks of the voltage? It causes heat and is the cheapest possible solution. and should always be set as low as possible (while maintaining stability) to save the life of the chip even when OCing you do the same.


In most cases when the OP is clearly not overclocking the CPU voltage is not mentioned simply because he or she may not have skill 1 at manual BIOS settings.

I totally agree that many motherboards left on auto voltage control shoot higher voltage spikes than manually controlled voltage does and higher voltage spikes equals higher CPU load temperatures.

Even though motherboard specifications are clearly defined by Intel to the motherboard manufacturer, there are grey areas in the plus or minus tolerance that some manufacturers push to the edge so their motherboards seem more stable.

To suggest lowering voltage requires a responsibility on your part to walk them through by hand if they have absolutely zero BIOS manipulation skills, and most of us overclockers that have invested the time to learn how to successfully manipulate our voltages do not want to spend that kind of time and responsibility to help those with zero experience, until they have decided to help themselves first.

So that's at least my reasoning for not suggesting voltage manipulation to a non overclocker.

@ the OP, I 2nd the suggestion of getting an aftermarket CPU air cooler to replace the stock cooler, and the previously mentioned Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is a great suggestion for your 2500K.

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April 26, 2014 7:21:52 AM

4Ryan6 said:
bgunner said:
EDIT: Just curious why no one ever thinks of the voltage? It causes heat and is the cheapest possible solution. and should always be set as low as possible (while maintaining stability) to save the life of the chip even when OCing you do the same.


In most cases when the OP is clearly not overclocking the CPU voltage is not mentioned simply because he or she may not have skill 1 at manual BIOS settings.

I totally agree that many motherboards left on auto voltage control shoot higher voltage spikes than manually controlled voltage does and higher voltage spikes equals higher CPU load temperatures.

Even though motherboard specifications are clearly defined by Intel to the motherboard manufacturer, there are grey areas in the plus or minus tolerance that some manufacturers push to the edge so their motherboards seem more stable.

To suggest lowering voltage requires a responsibility on your part to walk them through by hand if they have absolutely zero BIOS manipulation skills, and most of us overclockers that have invested the time to learn how to successfully manipulate our voltages do not want to spend that kind of time and responsibility to help those with zero experience, until they have decided to help themselves first.

So that's at least my reasoning for not suggesting voltage manipulation to a non overclocker.

@ the OP, I 2nd the suggestion of getting an aftermarket CPU air cooler to replace the stock cooler, and the previously mentioned Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is a great suggestion for your 2500K.



Yeah i'm agreed with your advice but when i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia exhaust fan, but my SYSTEM case only allows 80mm dia fan, HOW to sort this issue?


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April 26, 2014 7:25:18 AM

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Yeah i'm agreed with your advice but when i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia Fan, how do i find which dimension fan i need?


The CM Hyper 212 Evo comes WITH a fan. No need for an extra fan on the cooler..

Yogi
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April 26, 2014 7:28:59 AM

Y0GI said:
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Yeah i'm agreed with your advice but when i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia Fan, how do i find which dimension fan i need?


The CM Hyper 212 Evo comes WITH a fan. No need for an extra fan on the cooler..

Yogi


i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia exhaust fan, but my SYSTEM case only allows 80mm dia fan, HOW to sort out this issue?
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April 26, 2014 8:00:53 AM

abhirocks said:
Y0GI said:
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Yeah i'm agreed with your advice but when i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia Fan, how do i find which dimension fan i need?


The CM Hyper 212 Evo comes WITH a fan. No need for an extra fan on the cooler..

Yogi


Dude how to find out whether this Evo cooler fits correctly without messing up with other wires or Ram which are already mounted over Motherboard


The most sure way is for you to supply us a picture of your inside of the case.

The EVO is very versatile when it comes to clearing memory modules as the fan can either be fudged up in it's mounting or moved to the rear of the cooler setup pulling air through the heat sink instead of on the front side pushing air.

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April 26, 2014 8:04:05 AM

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Dude how to find out whether this Evo cooler fits correctly without messing up with other wires or Ram which are already mounted over Motherboard


You'll have to research the dimensions of: DIMM height, case width, Hyper 212 height (both above the RAM slots and the max height above the MB).

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April 26, 2014 10:58:24 AM

4Ryan6 said:
abhirocks said:
Y0GI said:
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Yeah i'm agreed with your advice but when i checked EVO's specification it says EVO 2012 using 120mm dia Fan, how do i find which dimension fan i need?


The CM Hyper 212 Evo comes WITH a fan. No need for an extra fan on the cooler..

Yogi


Dude how to find out whether this Evo cooler fits correctly without messing up with other wires or Ram which are already mounted over Motherboard


The most sure way is for you to supply us a picture of your inside of the case.

The EVO is very versatile when it comes to clearing memory modules as the fan can either be fudged up in it's mounting or moved to the rear of the cooler setup pulling air through the heat sink instead of on the front side pushing air.



Yup i uploaded pics , now can you please help me out
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April 26, 2014 12:33:43 PM

what case do you have? That will help us more than pics of the case. If you can tell us the case you have we may be able to find the intieior demention for coolers for your case.

the Hyper 212+ and the Hyper 212 Evo have the same height of 159mm tall.

also from those pics I HIGHLY recommend cleaning out that system with some compressed air as there is tons of dust in there.

EDIT here is the link to the Full specifications of the Hyper 212 (not a 2012 that you like to call it) Evo : http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hype...
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April 26, 2014 12:43:10 PM

bgunner said:
what case do you have? That will help us more than pics of the case. If you can tell us the case you have we may be able to find the intieior demention for coolers for your case.

the Hyper 212+ and the Hyper 212 Evo have the same height of 159mm tall.

also from those pics I HIGHLY recommend cleaning out that system with some compressed air as there is tons of dust in there.


Brand name is Mora, i looked for it over internet but dont find any info, i bought this cabinet 6 years back.
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April 26, 2014 12:53:11 PM

I to have come up with nothing for PC cases with the name of Mora. Unless your trying to put it in a knife or some dude by the name of Anthony Mora. there is no other name or model number on the case at all?
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April 26, 2014 12:59:12 PM

bgunner said:
I to have come up with nothing for PC cases with the name of Mora. Unless your trying to put it in a knife or some dude by the name of Anthony Mora. there is no other name or model number on the case at all?


Nope bro :-( , there is no model number or model name
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April 26, 2014 1:14:30 PM

Ok just as a guess, because at this point without any more info, I would say that it will fit as it is one of the smallest, height wise, 120mm fan tower coolers. It fits in my case with a lot of room to spare to the side cover But my case is a gaming case. I honestly believe it would fit in a old Emachines case I have in storage. That case is a micro ATX case and fairly thin.

Now remember this is a guess, and have no reference to go on other than the fact i have the exact cooler and a smaller case than the one I use for gaming or secondary PC.
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April 26, 2014 1:29:02 PM

Whew!!! :pfff: 

I don't see the CMH212 EVO having a fit problem according to those pictures, IF, You do some wire management and clean out all the dust!

That is Dust Monster and Spaghetti Wiring Nasty!

Looks like your Stock Air Cooler is suffocating from dust, Get some canned compressed air, (well in your case at least 2 cans!), and take it outside the home and blow out all that dust, you'll have lower temperatures just from cleaning out all the dust!

Don't breathe that dust into your lungs either, be careful that it blows away from you!

Get some nylon wire ties and pull that wiring away from the socket area!

Do not pull the stock cooler unless you have thermal compound to replace the old, the CMH212 EVO comes with thermal compound.

Just blowing the dust out and from that stock heat sink will lower your temps and you may not need to replace it, since you're not overclocking.

The Stock cooler heat sink fins under the fan is completely covered with dust.

That 6 pin PCI-E power supply cable and the white nylon cable tie is extremely close to the CPU cooling fan, That's Bad!

The optical drive sata data cable is either warped or possibly broken, you need to check that?

The CPU cooler fan motor wire looks like it was never completely released from it's original shipping configuration in some areas.

Basically your machine needs some serious TLC as in Tender Loving Care!
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April 26, 2014 1:53:20 PM

for cleanliness and wiring here is an example.

this is before I rebuilt my system but if you want fresh pics it is easy enough to give.

take you extra wires and move then to above your DVD/CD drive to get them out of the way.

EDIT: I should mention I modified this case to allow the wiring to do a 90° turn in to the back of the case to have less clutter.
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April 26, 2014 2:05:16 PM

bgunner said:
for cleanliness and wiring here is an example.

this is before I rebuilt my system but if you want fresh pics it is easy enough to give.

take you extra wires and move then to above your DVD/CD drive to get them out of the way.

EDIT: I should mention I modified this case to allow the wiring to do a 90° turn in to the back of the case to have less clutter.


Nice, Neat and Clean! :) 

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