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April 26, 2014 10:41:23 AM

I want to play new games like DayZ or Battlefield 4 and perhaps future-coming games as well on PC.

My budget is 400 - 600 dollars or lower if possible. I am not interested in playing on maxed out settings or anything, and I am not a hardware junkie. If it's necessary I will play on low settings.

Is there a pre-built PC or PC build someone can recommend to me?

Here are a few part lists I put together (will these even run DayZ or Battlefield on low settings?):

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/breathenow/saved/4uwF

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/breathenow/saved/4tPL

Thank you

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April 26, 2014 10:52:20 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $507.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 13:52 EDT-0400)
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April 26, 2014 11:00:29 AM

8gb RAM is definitely not a must. Most games still don't use more than 3gb. For a budget build, 4gb is perfectly fine.
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April 26, 2014 10:54:48 AM

Either one of those will run games on low to mid settings no sweat. The second build has a slightly weaker graphics card, but has a slightly stronger CPU...

That being said, if you're willing to do a little bit of overclocking, which wouldn't be difficult at all, the first build could match or surpass it, since it has a stronger graphics card.

Those are well thought out computer builds, and you should be good with either option.
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April 26, 2014 11:02:45 AM

tiny voices said:
8gb RAM is definitely not a must. Most games still don't use more than 3gb. For a budget build, 4gb is perfectly fine.


Yeah, but also consider if you want to do other tasks or want to future proof it. Plus, consider the dual channel.
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April 26, 2014 10:56:53 AM

nikoli707 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $507.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 13:52 EDT-0400)



Did you look at his first build?

It's got an Athlon x4 750k, which is just as good, 8GB of RAM, and a R9 270 - a lot more bang for the buck.
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April 26, 2014 11:05:17 AM

It would be abetter idea to get a single stick of 4gb RAM, leaving it open to add another stick later to make 8gb RAM. Everyone says you need dual channel, but in reality, there is no performance difference that you can see at all. I promise. It's like a 1-2% difference AT MOST. Nothing you will be able to actually see.

Also, you can multi-task FINE with 4gb. Nothing more is even needed unless you do video editing. HE will be fine with 4gb for a while.
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April 26, 2014 10:57:20 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.18 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($73.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $547.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 13:56 EDT-0400)

I know mine is a bit more expensive but here me out: firstly, 8 gigs of ram is almost a must these days. And second you need a better case. The 200R is a full sized case for 10 more dollars.
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April 26, 2014 11:05:39 AM

^ Except it's not just for gaming, it's also for being able to multitask. At least personally, I run up against the 4GB in my media PC all the time when I'm browsing.

Also, guys, check out his original post... if he's happy with what he's got, the only upgrade I would make is to a 1TB hard drive for about $20 more. Other than that, he's got a very strong system picked out already in that first link.
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April 26, 2014 11:06:07 AM

tiny voices said:
It would be abetter idea to get a single stick of 4gb RAM, leaving it open to add another stick later to make 8gb RAM. Everyone says you need dual channel, but in reality, there is no performance difference that you can see a tall. I promise. It's like a 1-2% difference AT MOST. Nothing you will be able to actually see.


Yet, I'm still proud of my Optiplex 755 lol :D 
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April 26, 2014 11:08:08 AM

my build has an OS in it, if we drop $90 out from that you can easily put the 270 in there and add more ram.
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April 26, 2014 12:35:51 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $581.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:35 EDT-0400)

Here's a build with a 760 for under 600.
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April 26, 2014 12:38:30 PM

Diox55 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $581.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:35 EDT-0400)

Here's a build with a 760 for under 600.


PSU is not great. I would not recommend the CX series from Corsair. 500w from Antec, XFX, Seasonic is plenty for this build.
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April 26, 2014 12:41:10 PM

Diox55 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.18 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($73.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $547.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 13:56 EDT-0400)

I know mine is a bit more expensive but here me out: firstly, 8 gigs of ram is almost a must these days. And second you need a better case. The 200R is a full sized case for 10 more dollars.


Thanks for the suggestions, I will probably update my build to a few of these things. However, I wondered about the power supply. The one on yours is half the price of the one on mine, so will that make any difference? I'll probably go with the cheaper option anyway, but I was just wondering.

And also: the 500 gb hard drive on mine was around the same price as the 1 tb hard drive on yours. Either way, I'll probably make a few little changes on the build if I end up making it and thanks for replying.

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April 26, 2014 12:41:54 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($57.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $593.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:41 EDT-0400)

A little bit more expensive, but for 600 bucks you have a 760 which is a great card.
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April 26, 2014 12:42:19 PM

Read my previous post on the PSU. I would stay away from the CX units by Corsair.
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April 26, 2014 12:43:04 PM

tiny voices said:
Read my previous post on the PSU. I would stay away from the CX units by Corsair.


I edited it. It has an XFX now.
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April 26, 2014 12:44:35 PM

Thank you for your input. It is much appreciated :) 
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April 26, 2014 12:45:41 PM

breathenow said:
Thank you for your input. It is much appreciated :) 


No problem. I'd say for close to 600 bucks you should get that. The 760 is fantastic, and will serve you well.
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April 26, 2014 12:47:29 PM

Honestly the gtx760 is a bit of a high end card for the athlon x4 760k. Y0u REALLY want an fx-6300 or an i3.

All the 760k is, is an a10 APU with the iGPU removed.
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April 26, 2014 12:48:28 PM

tiny voices said:
Honestly the gtx760 is a bit of a high end card for the athlon x4 760k. Y0u REALLY want an fx-6300 or an i3.

All the 760k is, is an a10 APU with the iGPU removed.


Well, hmm. I'll brb! MAD SCIENTIST AWAY!
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April 26, 2014 12:49:24 PM

The 760k is meant for GPUs like a 260x or 750ti.
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April 26, 2014 12:51:15 PM

760k with a decent overclock will work fine with a gtx660/270x, but i wouldnt recommend going any higher tier on the gpu after that. jump to an fx6300 then.
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April 26, 2014 12:52:32 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $607.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:51 EDT-0400)

Here's an even better rig. This'll handle pretty well, and you can upgrade to an 8 core cpu later.
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April 26, 2014 12:53:22 PM

Diox55 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $607.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:51 EDT-0400)

Here's an even better rig. This'll handle pretty well, and you can upgrade to an 8 core cpu later.


The motherboard is junk. It is known to catch fire. It has POOR power phases and NO VRM heatsinks. Change this FOR SURE. PSU is also not great and too little wattage.
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April 26, 2014 12:54:10 PM

that 430w power supply isn't going to work anymore for the fx6300 and 760.
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April 26, 2014 12:57:12 PM

tiny voices said:
Diox55 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $607.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:51 EDT-0400)

Here's an even better rig. This'll handle pretty well, and you can upgrade to an 8 core cpu later.


The motherboard is junk. It is known to catch fire. It has POOR power phases and NO VRM heatsinks. Change this FOR SURE. PSU is also not great and too little wattage.


Wtf pcpartpicker, It keeps switching it back to corsair, DAMN IT CORSAIR IS A SKANK PCPARTPICKER! sorry had to get that out of my system.
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April 26, 2014 12:59:12 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $637.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-26 15:58 EDT-0400)

Here. Lets hope it doesn't put a corsair psu back on >.>
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April 26, 2014 1:14:07 PM

breathenow said:
Ok, thanks everybody, I'll probably end up using Diox's or maybe this one:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/breathenow/saved/4uBS


I suggest mine for these reasons:

1. You get a 6 core processor, which is up gradable to an 8 core later on

2. You have the 760, which will play most games on high settings.
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April 26, 2014 1:22:44 PM

I suggest mine for these reasons:

1. You get a 6 core processor, which is up gradable to an 8 core later on

2. You have the 760, which will play most games on high settings.
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You're probably right, but like I said, I'm really not that interested in performance or high settings. I would be really happy with just medium settings. Anyway, I don't really want to spend more than the $600 price range. Less would actually probably better. But I don't really know, I'm a bit of a noob.

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April 26, 2014 1:26:36 PM

breathenow said:
I suggest mine for these reasons:

1. You get a 6 core processor, which is up gradable to an 8 core later on

2. You have the 760, which will play most games on high settings.


You're probably right, but like I said, I'm really not that interested in performance or high settings. I would be really happy with just medium settings. Anyway, I don't really want to spend more than the $600 price range. Less would actually probably better. But I don't really know, I'm a bit of a noob.

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Well if your not even just interested in performance, I'd still recommend the more expensive one because as time goes on, you can still play newer games on low to medium setting, in 3-4 years. For 630 bucks, thats pretty good value.
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April 26, 2014 1:26:39 PM

breathenow said:
I suggest mine for these reasons:

1. You get a 6 core processor, which is up gradable to an 8 core later on

2. You have the 760, which will play most games on high settings.


You're probably right, but like I said, I'm really not that interested in performance or high settings. I would be really happy with just medium settings. Anyway, I don't really want to spend more than the $600 price range. Less would actually probably better. But I don't really know, I'm a bit of a noob.

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Well if your not even just interested in performance, I'd still recommend the more expensive one because as time goes on, you can still play newer games on low to medium setting, in 3-4 years. For 630 bucks, thats pretty good value.
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April 26, 2014 1:27:40 PM

Yeah, I suppose you're right

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April 26, 2014 1:32:03 PM

breathenow said:
Yeah, I suppose you're right



Ultimately, it's all up to you though.
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April 26, 2014 1:37:08 PM

It's just that I did want the 8gb ram and the price in the end the base price is closer to 700. I guess I'm not gonna be able to play games in a few years if I don't spend that much anyway, so either I find a way to get the cash or just forget about it.

I wont need any more suggestions, this has all been really helpful.
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April 26, 2014 1:44:02 PM

breathenow said:
It's just that I did want the 8gb ram and the price in the end the base price is closer to 700. I guess I'm not gonna be able to play games in a few years if I don't spend that much anyway, so either I find a way to get the cash or just forget about it.

I wont need any more suggestions, this has all been really helpful.


Well, don't forget about it. Go cheaper if budget need be.
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April 26, 2014 1:46:55 PM

Alright, I won't forget :) 
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April 26, 2014 1:50:13 PM

breathenow said:
Alright, I won't forget :) 


Woo!
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April 26, 2014 2:38:18 PM

breathenow said:
I want to play new games like DayZ or Battlefield 4 and perhaps future-coming games as well on PC.

My budget is 400 - 600 dollars or lower if possible. I am not interested in playing on maxed out settings or anything, and I am not a hardware junkie. If it's necessary I will play on low settings.

Is there a pre-built PC or PC build someone can recommend to me?

Here are a few part lists I put together (will these even run DayZ or Battlefield on low settings?):

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/breathenow/saved/4uwF

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/breathenow/saved/4tPL

Thank you


Hoenstly, no, I would recommend right off go Console if your sticking at $400 or so EVEN on 'low settings'. because your wasting the $400 playing the game on 'low settings' and still getting LOW FPS when a console you will always get the best performance possible as the code is optimized for the closed hardware. In otherwords, the settings can be 'better looking' the FPS would be 'better' and overall playing the game would be a better 'experiance' for the SAME AMOUNT. Even a PS3 or Xbox 360 (which can play those titles) are only $150 and play some of the newest titles just released. Use the spare money for a cheap ($249) Walmart i3 Laptop for the Computer stuff you want to do .

Otherwise, www.slickdeals.net, grab a i5 Haswell for $349 (8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, DVD, Warranty, W8), swap the PSU out (PCpickparts.com 600W for $90) and the video card you choose ($179 for a R9) and you can do 1080P (1920x1080) above 50FPS, on High on BF4 64Man map consistently. THAT IS WITHOUT MONITOR mind you. Honestly PC gaming for 'Normal' game play (1080P 45+FPS Medium-High graphics) is at least $700 without OS. Maybe $600 with OS.

OS: If your OS comes from a previous system (Windows 7 or older) and the system was a Off The Shelf (Gateway, Dell, Ecmachine, etc.) the OS will NOT install. It is ONLY tied to THAT Bios, Mobo, CPU (some cases the damn case!!! Thanks Emachine!) ONLY, any other hardware detected and it will say NO.
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