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Aizuchan

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I want to have a PC custom built for our family. I game but I've not run anything "harder" than Forsaken World. I don't intend to overclock the PC so I avoided the 4770K (I might in the future), but I am a bit in the dark when picking the power supply, video memory (I know it has built in), motherboard, etc. Here is the build I have so far:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-INTEL-CORE-I7-4770-3-5GHZ-8GB-DDR3-2-0TB-36303476-/201080684750?

For those that don't want to the link (you can see all options via the link):
CPU : Intel Core i7-4770 3.5Ghz 8MB Cache Quad-Core
Heatsink/Fan : Thermaltake Frio Overclocking-Ready Cooler Fan/Heatsink
Motherboards : GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H (Intel Z87, HDMI, 3xPCI-E, 6xSATA, 4xDDR3)
Memory : 8GB (4GBx2) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1866Mhz Lifetime Warranty
Hard Drive / SSD : 2.0TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA3 6Gbps (Major Brand)
DVDRW / BLU RAY : 24X LG SATA Dual Layer DVD /-RW/CDRW w/LG Software
Video Card : 2GB GeForce GTX 650 Ti GDDR5 PCI-E DVI/HDMI (Major Brand)
Operating System : Microsoft Windows 8.1 64bit
Software : Microsoft Office 2010 Home and Student w/Word, Excel, Power Point
Case : Apevia Black/Red X-Dreamer 4 (4 5.25, 5 3.5) 5 Fans, Audio/USB 3.0
Power Supply : 650watt Corsair CMPSU-650TX V2 80 PLUS CERTIFIED
Networking : Onboard LAN included
Sound Card : Onboard Sound included
Card Reader : Internal All in 1 Card Reader
Case Fans : 2x 120mm Case Fan
Thermal Display : NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Control & Temperature Display
Wiring : Wires and Cables neatly tied up away from fans
Warranty : 3 Year Warranty + Three year hassle free pickup and return



My budget for just the tower is about 1500. I'm seeing conflicting review on the motherboards I was initially going to go with the ASUS z87PLUS or the AsRock Z87 Extreme4.
Primary uses for the PC: Midgrade gaming, Graphics editing (Photoshop CS3), and Course work.
I am OK with installing parts on my own if it's better to buy them compared to what this user charges. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
 
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This build for $1300 would be way WAY better

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCgP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCgP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCgP/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl)...

CTurbo

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This is a very uneven build. The cpu is very strong but the video card is very weak. You could do SO much better for the money. Would you be willing to build it your self?

There is absolutely NO way I would be that. I wouldn't buy that for $1000, much less $1488
 
No need for a Z87 motherboard when you're not overclocking or using multiple graphics cards. Also no need for such a big CPU cooler.

The GTX 650 Ti is alright for moderate gaming. The Core i7-4770 is unnecessarily expensive for gaming, but might be worth it for Photoshop etc.

You also don't really need a 650W PSU, though given the alternatives in that ebay build I'd stick with it.
 

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($499.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1482.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 16:58 EDT-0400)
 

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If you're looking to build the PC yourself might I suggest this build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.24 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($73.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($312.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($105.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($60.64 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1127.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 20:23 EDT-0400)
 

CTurbo

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This build for $1300 would be way WAY better

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCgP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCgP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCgP/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1299.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 17:01 EDT-0400)
 
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Aizuchan

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Thank you all again for replying. Might I ask...why the Intel Xeon over the i7? I also don't think I would use two hard drives but for the prices you all show, I don't see why not. Also, would it be better to go with Windows 8 for the price comparison?

I really appreciate you all structuring builds for me.
 

Aizuchan

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LOL Sakkura

The games played in our home are:
Maplestory
Requiem
Forsaken World
Champions Online
League of Legends
Marvel Heroes
Minecraft
Vindictus
Dragon Nest (We have a few Nexon fans)

I am trying to accommodate all of these varying gaming styles. I'm hoping for the PC to last a few years with the ability to upgrade it on my own as necessary. I am relatively new to building but I am not scared to build one at all. I only chose a build from others due to the option of purchasing support :)
 

CTurbo

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The point of the ssd + hard drive is that you can install windows on the ssd and then use the hard drive as storage only. This makes for a blazing fast system. I chose the Xeon over the i7 because the Xeon IS an i7 at a much cheaper price. That makes it a great value if you don't plan on overclocking. I prefer windows 7 but I don't think it would make any difference if you went with 7, 8, or 8.1.
 

CTurbo

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Sounds like there's no need for you to spend any more than this

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCZ5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCZ5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zCZ5/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($244.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1086.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 17:20 EDT-0400)
 

Aizuchan

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Sorry I clicked the wrong button and picked a best answer. I am actually looking at all the builds you all suggested. Sorry about that.

Anywho, Turbo for your builds, is there a reason to pick MSI > ASUS or Asrock? The motherboards confuse me the most. I really don't care what it looks like, I want one that is capable of handling upgrades.

Like Powerbolt I am also familiar with Corsair. Am I just paying for the name?

I want to be prepared to play something like Borderlands should it come up.
 

CTurbo

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Anywho, Turbo for your builds, is there a reason to pick MSI > ASUS or Asrock? The motherboards confuse me the most. I really don't care what it looks like, I want one that is capable of handling upgrades.

I chose that motherboard for no other reason than it is a good deal for the price. I usually recommend the ASRock B85 Pro4 for $69.
 
Why are you guys even giving her an i7/xeon when she doesn't need one...
I don't think you need an i7, and I also think you could get away with spending alot less money, while still having upgrade paths in the future. You can add another gtx660 and SLI them if you need to, and I was able to include a monitor worthy of the system itself.

The computer itself won't be super freaking huge, so you can put it on top of a desk as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($48.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1042.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 17:45 EDT-0400)
 

Aizuchan

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Thank you for replying James :)

The i7 was my own request. I know it is a bit much for what I needed. I was just going based on longevity and being able to remain usable after a few years. Since I could spend up to 1500 on a PC I figured why not go with an i7. I didn't even consider the case size (I should have). I was only considering the "bang" for the buck. Since I was given a $1500 max spending limit, I immediately jumped for an i7 or equivalent. I am sorry about that, it was my request. I was told an i7 was overkill, but it was within budget so I went for it.
 

CTurbo

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Why are you guys even giving her an i7/xeon when she doesn't need one...
I don't think you need an i7, and I also think you could get away with spending alot less money, while still having upgrade paths in the future. You can add another gtx660 and SLI them if you need to, and I was able to include a monitor worthy of the system itself.

The computer itself won't be super freaking huge, so you can put it on top of a desk as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 57.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($48.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1042.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 17:45 EDT-0400)


She??? Did I miss something? lol

First of all, you may be right about not needing a Xeon/i7, but "she" said that "she" would be doing some video editing so why not if "she" can afford one? You're build is a mere $44 less than mine yet it is worse in most ways. I see you included a monitor but "she" didn't indicate that one was necessary. Why would you chose two 1TB hdds that add up to $114 when one 2TB hdd costs $83? The H87 chipset does not support SLI so getting a 2nd GTX660 is not an option. There's also no need for an aftermarket cooler in this build.
 

CTurbo

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Yes, he's correct I am a she. I hope that doesn't change anything.


Haha no of course not. I was just wondering where he got that info from. There was no indication in any of your texts about your gender.



Months ago, I was helping on a thread, and there was a similar situation to this, but that time, the OP was a guy and he was not happy about being assumed a "she" lol
 

Aizuchan

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Oh haha Tha's a good question! It was a good guess XD

But you are also correct. I have all of the necessary accessories already. I just needed a good tower worth at max $1500 :)
 

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I had to laugh that you put quotations around each "she" throughout that entire post (Sans one of course). Lol

As for the best tower for the money, CTurbo nailed it with either one of his previous builds. The SSD will be top notch for OS storage, and plenty more storage to be had from another regular HDD. The Xeon E3-1230 V3 will be a great CPU going forward, and the GTX 760/R9 290 will handle the games you've posted here very nicely.
 
I based it on her name. It sounds like a girls name. Aizu being feminine, and chan demoting... a diminutive/cared about/pet-like person.

I got her 2 1 TBs for safety, so she can either Raid-1 them, or keep her applications on one HDD and media on another. I also got her WD caviar blues because they have a much better warranty and quality than the seagate barracudas.

The aftermarket cooler is because stock coolers suck, they are loud and perform unsatisfactorily. Unless you're only web browsing and word processing.

h87 DOES support sli, just not triple sli, so you can only have 2 cards.

"The H87 chipset is very similar to Z87, but lacks a few important features including CPU overclocking. While this chipset can easily handle SLI/Crossfire configurations by allowing the 16 PCI-E lanes from the CPU to be divided into either a single x16 slot or dual x8 slots, it does not support triple SLI/Crossfire configurations.

Like Z87, H87 supports Rapid Storage Technology, Smart Response Technology (otherwise known as SSD Caching), six SATA 6Gb/s ports and six USB 3.0 ports. Unlike Z87, it adds Small Business Advantage support, but removes support for Lake Tiny (SSD caching performance and power optimization). Finally, it supports two DIMMs per memory channel so it will be able to utilize up to four sticks of RAM.

H87 provides most of the same features as Z87 including plenty of SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0 ports. The only major features it lacks is CPU overclocking support and support for triple SLI/Crossfire configurations. Unfortunately, many motherboard manufactures attempt to push users to Z87 motherboards by limiting the number of ports and headers on their H87 motherboards. Because of this, Z87 motherboards are sometimes a better choice than H87 even when you do not need overclocking or triple SLI/Crossfire."

I just tried saving her money if she didn't need to spend it to fit her needs.

My builds even cheaper without a monitor, I just chose one because it's likely she has a fairly generic monitor, and having a good monitor can actually make quite a difference. It's a 23" 1080p 2ms response time, she she can actually get good frame rates in games. Or she could just add it to the monitor she already does have, because once you go two monitors, you never go back.

I've built a $3000 computer in the past, and after using it for a few months, I wasn't nearly as happy with it's performance compared to the money I spent, So now I spend a lot more time thinking about what I actually NEED in a computer when I build one, and how much I should realistically spend.
 

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You could swap out the Nvidia card on the less expensive build for an R9 series card. That way Crossfire support (H87) is there for a fairly inexpensive GPU upgrade.