fair price or not

Benjamin Chen · Apr 27, 2014

so i build this at cyberpower and when I actually when to partspicker and builds the same it actually cost me more so is cyberpower really has a better deal?
*BASE_PRICE: [+925]
BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: CFI Boreallight w/ USB 3.0, EZ Swap HDD, 2x 120mm & 1x 140mm fans, Side Panel Window [+24] (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified) [+104]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
FA_HDD: None
FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_VC: None
HDD: 256GB ADATA SP900 SSD + 3TB (3TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+32]
HDD2: None
HEADSET: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: None [-5]
MB_SRT: None
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+24])
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: * GIGABYTE Z87X-HD3 ATX w/ On/Off Charge 2, Realtek GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 3 PCIe x1, 2 PCI
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NFC: None
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts - Corsair CSM Series CS650M 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+54]
RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 2 to 3 weeks
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOFT1: McAfee AntiVirus Plus 2014 [+0]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+175] (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooling [+39])
VIDEO2: None
VIDEO3: None
WNC: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I 802.11AC Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter [+29]
_PRICE: (+1401)

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

No chance. For $1401 you can build a WAY better computer for gaming.

AgentTran · Apr 27, 2014

I'm almost certain an i7 4770k and a 770 plus all the other essentials won't set you back $1400.
If you did however put it altogether on PCpartpicker, do you mind sending me the build?

I find it hard to believe this would be a lower price, they would then be losing money.

Benjamin Chen · Apr 27, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3zPE8

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

You need to ditch the SSD and get a better GPU. Buying a computer for $1400 that can't even max all games is so pointless. You could easily get a gtx780 or even a 780TI on that budget.

Also, get an i5 (DUH!) not an i7 for a gaming build.

Benjamin Chen · Apr 27, 2014

tiny voices :

can you list everything and the price for a budget around 1400

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($549.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1366.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 23:09 EDT-0400)

Here is a proper build for $1400.

Benjamin Chen · Apr 27, 2014

noob question why is an i5 cpu a better option than i7

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

The perform the same in games. An i7 is meant for rendering and encoding. An i5 is more than enough to max all games and an i7 gives no real gains over an i5.

AgentTran · Apr 27, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($473.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1413.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-27 23:16 EDT-0400)

We save money by downgrading the CPU because the performance difference is non-existent between the i7 and i5 for gaming, get a GTX 780 instead of the 770, get a 750W Corsair 80+ Gold semi-modular because it's $5 more than the 650W one, keep the rest of your parts because they're all very good, and by the end of it, you have about $100 to spare, so I can throw in a 240GB SSD.

It's still at about $1400 with the OS, and will run any game at Ultra today.

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

AgenTran, The CSM series PSUs from Corsair (apart from the 650w unit which uses a different OEM form the others) are not that great. They use the same low quality capacitors from the CX units and do not like heat at all. I would go with an option from XFX, Antec, Seasonic. 650w is more than enough for that build.

AgentTran · Apr 27, 2014

tiny voices :

I didn't know this, I thought that only the CX-series used low-end capacitors. I won't recommend this Power Supply anymore in the future (I usually go with XFX/Seasonic or Antec anyway), but thanks for letting me know.

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

The CX, CXM, CS, CSM (not 650w), and RM all use the same crap capacitors and generally we try not to recommend these as their gold ratings (CS and RM) give a perceived higher quality than they really are.

AgentTran · Apr 27, 2014

tiny voices :

Noted, thank you.
Are there any other low-quality power supplies I should be aware of?

tiny voices · Apr 27, 2014

Not from the Big name manufacturers.

Many people like to recommend EVGA, but the B and NEX-B series are not great. About on par with the Corsair CX. The other EVGA units are great though.

As I'm sure you know, Thermaltake is generally not recommended even though they are popular.

Cooler master has always made crap PSUs, but now their Silent Pro line are good and i line is half decent. Generally, though, there is better stuff available for the price and these Coolermaster units don't really get recommended much.

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