I have an MSI 890 MB with 8GB of 1866 Corsair RAM and an AMD Thuban 1035 at stock settings (at least until I get the new OS loaded), a Sapphire 5450 graphics card, and a pile of HDD's in various arrangements, preferred boot drive being a a Mushkin Chronos 120GB.. It has ide, raid, and ahci modes in bios. 6 SATA and one ESATA port, and one ide ribbon port for two devices, but no floppy port.
I have been running an authentic XP pro 32 sp3 OS for years on different drives and configs. After some data loss messes (never boot from RAID 0) I've been running with the SATA drives in IDE mode. Found some legitimate 8.0 pro boxed upgrade sets with both 32 and 64 bit disks and fresh coa card for $110. Problem is that if I try to upgrade in an XP pro 32 bit boot drive, the 64 bit DVD chokes and tells me to use the 32 bit disk, even though the 8.0 requirements are more than met. I understand that the boot disk will have to be reformatted by the 64 bit OS and I have already cloned it.
This is driven by the end of XP support and aside from the security issue*, larger memory access looks like the big plus so I really want to end up on a 64 bit system.**
I'm quasi literate, but I can struggle through manuals and bios settings issues, mostly.***. Problem may be due to IDE setting instead of AHCI or Raid (AHCI based), but if I switch bios settings to either, XP won't boot. I tried erasing my SSD and was going to set it raid ready and load win XP, but thus far can't get it to load from my SATA DVD drive. And I can.t add XP raid drivers for my MB for an XP raid ready reinstall because I don't have a floppy. It's a bit of a catch 22; also, having had the installation choke once I'm afraid if I keep at it the OS will marry itself to the motherboard in the Church of Microsoftology and if fails completely, I won't be able to use it elsewhere. Possibly, with a day on the phone, I could get some help from MS, but as I understand it, this may be a really unproductive use of a nice day.
Can I set up an IDE DVD driive and use it to load XP on the Raid configured SSD, then try the 64 bit load on top? Or should I upgrade to 8.0 32 bit, and will it let me lode 8.0 64 over 8.032? ID code is same for both disks. Or hope for an opportunity to switch to 64 bit when I upgrade to 8.1.
Or should I use the preferred MS solution; buy a new computer (just so long as it's not an apple, android, or linux of course) from one of their hog-tied OEM's.
PS (OLD GUY RANT ALERT!!!)
*Security as in "youse better throw in a few bucks so me and the boys can keep your place "secure" Microsoft - Bill totally made me feel like a judgemental idiot when he turned out to be a nice guy, trying to intelligently improve the lives of the poorest of our brothers and sisters without disrupting their economies, and doing his best to give away enough of his money that he isn't the world's richest man. Hasn't wuite succeeded, though, but I think he really means it. This after I told my children he was Hellboy. I think somebody said something about removing the log from your own eye... However, the corporation he left behind is still a self-aware incarnation of some terrifying demon, the same extortion racket it always was. "The power to innovate" So far their big innovation is repeating the stategies of the robber barons of the twenties, bullying their way into monopolistic markets and crushing (or buying) real innovators before they get any momentum. The XP thing show that they're at least stealing the corrupt practices of the 60's and 70's - The beauty of planned obolescence. My wife just had me get rid of 40's Okeefe And Merrit Stove that hadn't broken in 21 years to spend $800 for a flimsy stove with more computer power than the moon landers. and a one year warranty. swell..This is known as "whinging" in England and was punishable by being hung or deported to the colonies, which would explain a lot.
** In case I want to be mutilated every 5 minutes on some mmorpg, plot my own moon landing trajectories, or calculate the actual budget of homeland security (though who really wants to move to Russia - just a sec, I hear a whistling, buzzing noise high above my house...probably nothing, I'm an American citizen after all)
**Although there are always mystery acronyms which are still puzzling after struggling through the Chinese/English explanations, truthfully not much worse than the written English of American engineers, no offense. I'm generously including software engineers, except for the older generation of failed writers or History majors I know who took 90-day wonder classes in 1972 and are living on coffee plantations on the Big Island, ocassionally doing a little hired gun work over the wi-fi. They told me what do to. It's all my own fault, I assure you.
I have been running an authentic XP pro 32 sp3 OS for years on different drives and configs. After some data loss messes (never boot from RAID 0) I've been running with the SATA drives in IDE mode. Found some legitimate 8.0 pro boxed upgrade sets with both 32 and 64 bit disks and fresh coa card for $110. Problem is that if I try to upgrade in an XP pro 32 bit boot drive, the 64 bit DVD chokes and tells me to use the 32 bit disk, even though the 8.0 requirements are more than met. I understand that the boot disk will have to be reformatted by the 64 bit OS and I have already cloned it.
This is driven by the end of XP support and aside from the security issue*, larger memory access looks like the big plus so I really want to end up on a 64 bit system.**
I'm quasi literate, but I can struggle through manuals and bios settings issues, mostly.***. Problem may be due to IDE setting instead of AHCI or Raid (AHCI based), but if I switch bios settings to either, XP won't boot. I tried erasing my SSD and was going to set it raid ready and load win XP, but thus far can't get it to load from my SATA DVD drive. And I can.t add XP raid drivers for my MB for an XP raid ready reinstall because I don't have a floppy. It's a bit of a catch 22; also, having had the installation choke once I'm afraid if I keep at it the OS will marry itself to the motherboard in the Church of Microsoftology and if fails completely, I won't be able to use it elsewhere. Possibly, with a day on the phone, I could get some help from MS, but as I understand it, this may be a really unproductive use of a nice day.
Can I set up an IDE DVD driive and use it to load XP on the Raid configured SSD, then try the 64 bit load on top? Or should I upgrade to 8.0 32 bit, and will it let me lode 8.0 64 over 8.032? ID code is same for both disks. Or hope for an opportunity to switch to 64 bit when I upgrade to 8.1.
Or should I use the preferred MS solution; buy a new computer (just so long as it's not an apple, android, or linux of course) from one of their hog-tied OEM's.
PS (OLD GUY RANT ALERT!!!)
*Security as in "youse better throw in a few bucks so me and the boys can keep your place "secure" Microsoft - Bill totally made me feel like a judgemental idiot when he turned out to be a nice guy, trying to intelligently improve the lives of the poorest of our brothers and sisters without disrupting their economies, and doing his best to give away enough of his money that he isn't the world's richest man. Hasn't wuite succeeded, though, but I think he really means it. This after I told my children he was Hellboy. I think somebody said something about removing the log from your own eye... However, the corporation he left behind is still a self-aware incarnation of some terrifying demon, the same extortion racket it always was. "The power to innovate" So far their big innovation is repeating the stategies of the robber barons of the twenties, bullying their way into monopolistic markets and crushing (or buying) real innovators before they get any momentum. The XP thing show that they're at least stealing the corrupt practices of the 60's and 70's - The beauty of planned obolescence. My wife just had me get rid of 40's Okeefe And Merrit Stove that hadn't broken in 21 years to spend $800 for a flimsy stove with more computer power than the moon landers. and a one year warranty. swell..This is known as "whinging" in England and was punishable by being hung or deported to the colonies, which would explain a lot.
** In case I want to be mutilated every 5 minutes on some mmorpg, plot my own moon landing trajectories, or calculate the actual budget of homeland security (though who really wants to move to Russia - just a sec, I hear a whistling, buzzing noise high above my house...probably nothing, I'm an American citizen after all)
**Although there are always mystery acronyms which are still puzzling after struggling through the Chinese/English explanations, truthfully not much worse than the written English of American engineers, no offense. I'm generously including software engineers, except for the older generation of failed writers or History majors I know who took 90-day wonder classes in 1972 and are living on coffee plantations on the Big Island, ocassionally doing a little hired gun work over the wi-fi. They told me what do to. It's all my own fault, I assure you.
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