New Gaming Build! A few random questions.

ErikM · Apr 28, 2014

) Samsung 840 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247

Extra case fans (most likely for the top of the case ) Corsair AF140 or SP120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181028

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181040

So, first off, I am highly certain that all these parts will work flawlessly with each other, but if you do happen to see any incompatibility, please do not hesitate to point it out!

Here's a question. So I know that when people build computers, they put everything together on the mobo first, and make sure it posts before putting it all in the case, just to make sure nothing is DOA and they didn't waste their time. So, how would I do that if I have the H50 water cooler? would i just use the stock cooler for the test? And if so, would I still use thermal paste, and just have to clean it off after when I want to install the water cooler?

Next off, will the power supply. Is that sufficient? I always hear about 12V rail requirements, but I do not know much about it. I assume it has the necessary power connections for the GPU, but I could be wrong. Also, I assume 750 watts, (also gold certified), is more than enough for this build, even with some overclocking (nothing extreme, maybe 4.2 Ghz)

Now, I have a question about air flow in the 450D case. So, the front fans pull air in, and the rear fan exhausts it out. If I have to replace the rear fan with my water cooling radiator, It will pull air in from the back. So can I add fan(s) on top to exhaust air out of the system, and have the front and rears pull air in. Or could I just mount the radiator on top and leave everything else. OR! I could have the top fan(s) pull air in, and the fronts pull air in, and make the radiator in the rear, exhaust. If you have any other air flow situations to recommend, that would be great! I feel as if I am probably over-thinking the air flow situation.

Last question, and probably one of the dumbest questions you will ever see, but I have to be sure. I see that boards support different ram speeds, but some of the have (O.C.) next to the speed, and some dont. Here is an example. DDR3 1866, DDR3 2133 (O.C.). Does this mean it only supports the 2133 memory if you manually overclock it yourself? Or will it work with ram that is 2133mhz straight out of the box. Yes dumb question probably. but hey I might as well find out.

If I have more questions I will post them, as of now, feel free to answer my idiotic questions! Any and all answers are highly appreciated, thanks!

M0j0jojo · Apr 28, 2014

If you buy everything from Newegg it will cost you $1536.72

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card ($350.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1419.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 18:17 EDT-0400)

terry4536 · Apr 28, 2014

First off, I would recommend getting the SSD. It makes a world of difference in performance (if finances are tight wait on the hard drive and install the OS & programs on the SSD). Then get the hard drive as you can afford it.

I do not see anything major that is wrong with your list. I would recommend upgrading the H50 cooler though.

If you are going to breadboard the motherboard, then I would use the stock cooler for that (it just makes things easier). The stock cooler has paste pre-applied.

The 750 watt PSU is adequate for your system. I prefer Seasonic over Corsair, but that is up to you.

The rear fan should be exhaust not intake. The top fans should be exhaust. The front (and side & bottom) fans are the intakes . That cooler is usually mounted in the rear. I like Noctua fans. I have heard that the Corsair fans are a bit hit & miss. The Noctua fans are more expensive, but you definitely get what you pay for (and they are quiet).

Most motherboards will have to be manually set to speeds over 1600 in the BIOS. If the OC speed is stated in the specifications, that generally means that you can use XMP to set those speeds, but it also means that the motherboard is rated for those speeds..

terry4536 · Apr 28, 2014

And by the way, they were good questions.

ErikM · Apr 28, 2014

terry4536 :

First off, I would recommend getting the SSD. It makes a world of difference in performance (if finances are tight wait on the hard drive and install the OS & programs on the SSD). Then get the hard drive as you can afford it.

I do not see anything major that is wrong with your list. I would recommend upgrading the H50 cooler though.

If you are going to breadboard the motherboard, then I would use the stock cooler for that (it just makes things easier). The stock cooler has paste reapplied.

The 750 watt PSU is adequate for your system. I prefer Seasonic over Corsair, but that is up to you.

The rear fan should be exhaust not intake. The top fans should be exhaust. The front (and side & bottom) fans are the intakes . That cooler is usually mounted in the rear. I like Noctua fans. I have heard that the Corsair fans are a bit hit & miss. The Noctua fans are more expensive, but you definitely get what you pay for (and they are quiet).

Most motherboards will have to be manually set to speeds over 1600 in the BIOS. If the OC speed is stated in the specifications, that generally means that you can use XMP to set those speeds, but it also means that the motherboard is rated for those speeds..

Thanks a lot for this! It helps a lot i appreciate it.

ErikM · Apr 28, 2014

M0j0jojo :

If you buy everything from Newegg it will cost you $1536.72

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card ($350.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1419.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 18:17 EDT-0400)

Thank you as well! This is a huge help financially. I didn't even think of this!

terry4536 · Apr 28, 2014

Thanks a lot for this! It helps a lot i appreciate it

You're welcome. Good luck with the build.

ErikM · Apr 29, 2014

One more question! If I want to test the parts before installing everything, like we talked about before, and I didnt want to use the stock cooler just for testing, couldnt I use the H75 watercooler still? just leave it on the table next to me with the 2 fans on either side still cooling the radiator?

terry4536 · Apr 29, 2014

Yes, you can do that. You are just checking that the components are working prior to installing them. Don't leave it running outside the case for long.

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