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April 28, 2014 5:39:18 PM

I have windows 7 on my desktop. I have windows 8 on my laptop. I do not like windows 8. I don't like the tile display. But if you can convince me why windows 8.1 is so much better I'll be glad
to listen. Plus I don't know what is coming in the future and what I will get into later on. I have
bought many computers in the past which were considered overkill and then something comes
up that pushes the limits of the computer. So that is why I'm going with the 4930k processor and
which is not the highest end processor. I would like to know if you had a setup like the one I have
described which graphics card you would choose and be the most compatible.

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April 28, 2014 5:48:32 PM

For a single GPU I would go with the GTX 780 Ti model as it has one of the best single card performances out that will complement that CPU and not be bottle necked at all. IF in the future you wanted to add a second you could. If you are looking to do a duel GPU I would use the GTX 690. Don't count out the Titan Black series but I have not seen any bench marks to prove it is much better than the first titan that is over clocked.

the 780 Ti has very close to the same power of the GTX titans.
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April 28, 2014 5:52:04 PM

They are all compatible, and if you MUST buy that cpu you can pretty much buy the best performing card you can afford. Gtx 780ti if you plan to game, or titan if you plan to render.
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April 28, 2014 5:54:16 PM

if you just want a gaming grade pc then you dont need the higher end parts like the 4930k even the extra core count doesnt make it better value for most peoples needs.
if all your gonna do is play games, watch movies, email, web browse the odd bit of photo-shopping and home video editing then a quad core intel i5 4570k to in i7 4770k with an amd R270 or nvidia 770 with 8 gigs of ram will be enough for the next 4+ years of gaming.
that is if consoles continue to dictate the pace of game development like they did last gen.
in total look to spend about 800-1000 on the box and internals.
or if your insisting on the 4930k
look to pair it with a 780ti and sli it down the road. look to spend 1500-2000
if your an amateur or semi pro 3d artist this would be a very nice build but overkill for most gaming.
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April 28, 2014 6:09:42 PM

windows 8 has the potential to take better advantage of api's like mantle and the upcomming directx 12. some games have already been shown to consistantly have 2-3% performance increase over windows 7. if you got the money to burn the 4930k is a great processor, but it is only marginally faster than a 4770k is most programs and is not faster at all in gaming, no matter how far each are overclocked.

with your setup, i would get the evga 780ti classified. but if you ever plan on going with a full water loop to cool the 4930k and the 780ti, i would get the evga 780ti classified kingpin edition.
the 780ti is faster than a titan besides in double floating point performance which is for rendering acceleration. the 780ti has 2880 cores while the titan has 2688 cores. the titan is also on a reference pcb with a reference cooler so its overclocking can be somewhat limited over the custom pcbs found on some higher end 780ti models as they have bigger voltage controllers and much better cooling designs.

as far as gaming benchmarks, the titan black is going to be exactly the same as the 780ti in games since it has 2880 cores. its only core clock frequencies that are different.
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April 28, 2014 6:43:40 PM

Ok. I am getting the slightest impression most of you want me to think about the 4770k processor. Would the msi x70a-gd45 motherboard still be a
good choice for that processor. Also would you still recommend the GTX 780i Ti card as the most compatible.
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April 28, 2014 6:57:53 PM

no, your paying so much money to run the the 4930k and the x79 chipset that is just redonkulous.... about $500 plus $250.... so $750 just for a 10-20% performance increase in a "few" programs that can take advantage of 6 cores plus the hyper threading.... add another $30 for a hyper 212 evo so you can overclock.

the 4770k is a difference socket and chipset all together.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $476.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 21:51 EDT-0400)

if you live near a microcenter you can buy the above combo for $400 plus tax. add a $30 hyper 212 evo and your going to have a ton of cpu horsepower.... the gigabyte z87 ud4h is an extremely nice motherboard with all the features most will ever need including sli/cfx support and a whopping eight sata6 ports and plenty of overclocking stability. though i would recommend a phanteks ph-tc14pe cpu cooler for $75 since it will definitely get the 4770k to 4.6ghz.
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April 28, 2014 6:58:38 PM

If you change to the 4770k you will need a different motherboard that has the 1150 socket. the 4970k uses a 2011 socket so the CPU's are not compatible.

yes the recommendation is still the 780Ti GPU.

Personally I would stay with the 4970K as its performance will become more pronounced as programs start taking more and more advantage of multi threading.
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April 28, 2014 8:29:59 PM

You said that you would stay with 4970k. Do you mean 4970k or 4770k chip.
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April 28, 2014 8:57:22 PM

No you read that correct as I would stay with the 4970K. The performance will show when more programs come out with better multi-threading capability's. For just gaming the performance difference right now, and I mean right now, there is no difference but wait 2 years and you will see where the extra performance will help. Nobody builds a killer system just to play games, they use it for other things also. Video editing, picture editing, graphics design, book keeping, school programs, 7-zip all will take advantage of the extra power the CPU has and more programs are coming out every day that make more use of the mutli-threading that CPU's come with.
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April 28, 2014 10:07:43 PM

Thank you.
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April 28, 2014 10:13:30 PM

Wait for the 790 maybe?
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