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hello i have this pc http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02628380&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en
and i upgraded my psu to 600watts and changed the processor to a amd phenom ii x4 945 3.0ghz deneb. and got a gtx 660 sc. after experiencing spme startup problems i now have a slow computer that struggles browsing the internet without becoming temporarily unresponding. i have the nvidia drivers. im not sure what else to do. thanks. sorry for any errors im on mobile device
 
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1. Your original board is integrated gpu, but it is an AMD product. AMD and Nvidia drivers do NOT play well together. You need to COMPLETELY uninstall the AMD drivers (see THIS link) AND the nvidia drivers (see THIS link), then reinstall the current Nvidia drivers (do NOT use the drivers from the gpu disc - go to the Nvidia web site and get the current driver).

2. That particular psu is poorly made and is not reliable. The 660 requires about 450-500w, but it needs about 25a. The thermaltake has split rails, the most power of which is about 23a. I think you should try and return the thermaltake and look for a solid 600-650w SINGLE rail psu from EVGA, XFX, Seasonic, etc. See THIS link for more info.

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Did you remove the AMD video drivers?
Did you apply new thermal compound to the cpu?
What psu did you buy?
Have you done routine maintenance such as cleaning out .tmp; .bak, etc. files?
Are the rest of your drivers and is your bios up to date?
Are you running any monitoring software such as hardware monitor, cpu-z, gpu-z?
What trouble shooting steps have you taken?
 
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Did you remove the AMD video drivers? no i didnt though it was integrated
Did you apply new thermal compound to the cpu? yes thoroughly
What psu did you buy? thermaltake tr-2 600 watts
Have you done routine maintenance such as cleaning out .tmp; .bak, etc. files? i dont know what those are. a but new to this. should i do that?
Are the rest of your drivers and is your bios up to date? yes i think all are updated. i think my bios is 6.7.
Are you running any monitoring software such as hardware monitor, cpu-z, gpu-z? nothing but core temp
What trouble shooting steps have you taken? i have installed drivers and thats about it
 
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1. Your original board is integrated gpu, but it is an AMD product. AMD and Nvidia drivers do NOT play well together. You need to COMPLETELY uninstall the AMD drivers (see THIS link) AND the nvidia drivers (see THIS link), then reinstall the current Nvidia drivers (do NOT use the drivers from the gpu disc - go to the Nvidia web site and get the current driver).

2. That particular psu is poorly made and is not reliable. The 660 requires about 450-500w, but it needs about 25a. The thermaltake has split rails, the most power of which is about 23a. I think you should try and return the thermaltake and look for a solid 600-650w SINGLE rail psu from EVGA, XFX, Seasonic, etc. See THIS link for more info.

3. Download and run CCleaner (HERE) AFTER you have uninstalled the video drivers. Run both the cleanup and the registry defrag portions and it will clean up all the accumulated kruft. Look at the options in the cleanup - you can choose to keep cookies or other items, but my suggestion is to run it with the default options.

4. Download and run cpu-z and hardware monitor (both are HERE). These are great tools to monitor your temps and overall system. If you want info on your gpu performance, use gpu-z (HERE). All of these are free and will give you great information. You might also want to download MSI Afterburner (HERE). This will allow you to set up a custom fan curve for your gpu.

5. Double check to be sure all your drivers are current. If you are running the 6.07 bios, you should be fine, but double check the rest. All the drivers are HERE.

A final thought - I also have the same HP box as you (wife's desktop for work). I ended up replacing the motherboard with an aftermarket board and it really helped. Also, it's possible your original cpu MAY be a hybrid (see THIS) that can be unlocked to a 6 core thuban phenom. I pass this on as the cpu in my HP box was, in fact, one of these hybrids and the new motherboard permitted me to take advantage of all 6 cores.

Let me know if you have other questions.

Mark
 
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Alright so what i ended up doing was re installing windows completely. When I finally got back into the computer after some abnormal boot times There were no catalyst drivers or any of that. I proceeded to install the gtx 660 drivers. I still experience some slowdowns but less of them. So far all ive done is install nvidia drivers, ran ccleaner. And installed steam. Im wondering what else I should do. I don't know which of those HP drivers I need or have for that matter.
 
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Assuming you are using W7, go to the link I posted above as number 5. Under Drivers (original) download and install AMD chipset, AMD SATA, Ralink Wireless, RealTek audio and RealTek network drivers.

You will be somewhat hamstrung to "fine tune" your rig as the motherboard bios is locked down.

What type of "slowdowns" are you having? If they are graphics related, I still think you may have a psu issue with that new Thermal Take. The 660sc is a pretty power hungry card and neither of your 12v rails is up to the recommended level. In looking at the specs on that psu, it appears that both of the pci-e connectors run off of the same rail. If it is the 23a rail, you MIGHT be able to get away with it, but if it is the 20a rail, chances are slim.

The 945 is a 125w cpu, and at full load it will pull somewhere near 10a. This would leave only 13a or 10a available for the gpu (assuming I am correct that the gpu pci-e plugs are both on a single rail) - way under powered.

I still think you will want to look at a better psu - look for one with a SINGLE 12v rail capable of 45a or better.

Mark
 
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hi again. the slowdowns im having are not responding programs and temporary unresponsive programs often. the cpu i got was the 95w one because my mobo tdp is at 95w. i manage to play mount and blade warvand on ultra at locked 120 fps so i think my hardware is working. its just that on my desktop i get alot of not responding programs. thanks again
 
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Ok so I ended up doing a SMART test for my hard drive in BIOS and it said Hard Disk Failure imminent, replace hard drive. So do you think the hard drive has caused these problems?
 
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I had a WD Green 1 TB in my 2010 HP desktop die on me 3 days after warranty ran out way way back however I never noticed any performance degradation before it died suddenly however that might just be me.

Consider getting a SSD as the primary drive and continue to use that as a secondary drive as it will improve performance and boot time for windows 7 dramatically. Just put all the important things on SSD and you can determine if the hard drive is the culprit.
 
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Since I dont use all too much space as I only keep games I currently play install I mgiht just get SSD and put everything on there. I dont utilize the TB given to me on my laptop so no need to spend extra.
 
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HDD issues would have been my next suggestion. If you only use your desktop for gaming and the o/s, and you can backup your game data to a separate device, an SSD (120gb or larger) would probably make sense. If you use the rig for games, work, production, photos/movies and/or other data rich uses, putting the o/s on a small SSD and installing your programs on an HDD might be better. Either way, just be sure you have a device available to backup your data.

As an example, I personally use a small SSD for the o/s and select programs. The bulk of my programs are installed on a 250gb hdd, and a second 1tb hdd is used for backup and media storage (photos, movies, etc).
 
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Hey again. I bought a new western digital hdd as opposed to a seagate one. The system now runs flawlessly by the looks of it and is exactly what I expected. I appreciate the time it took to help me. You have my thanks.
 
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