Rebuilding PC & looking for the best Graphics Card for Skyrim

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Hi. It's been a long time since i last came on Tom's for some advice, and now i'm finally ready to spend some funds. I'm looking for a new Graphics Card. I've been going mad between the 780 TI KIngpIn and GTX Titan Black SC Edition. I have a 60HZ 27" 1080P Monitor with a MSI GTX 650 1GB and want to play my heavily modded Skyrim once again among games. I used to have the original GTX Titan SC but ended up selling it to get into a sport i no longer care about. I don't want to choose a card i probably don't need this time. I'm happy with just my 1 monitor and the typical 1080P resolution. I just want as much graphics horse power available out there but will the 3GB Vram be a problem for my Skyrim? I'm also rebuilding my system for some read/speed boosts.

My current PC setup:
-HP 2710m Monitor.
-MSI GTX 650 1GB (eye roll)
-Intel i7 3770K
-Corsair H100i
-Bitfenix Prodigy Case
-Corsair AX850 PSU.
-Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE Motherboard
-Corsair Vengeance 2 x 8GB (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10)
-Samsung 830 Series 128GB x2 in Raid0
-Seagate Barracuda 2TB Storage Drive.
-Can't use DVD Writer. Have to constantly open panel from side and borrow cables.

The setup i want to build:
-Same Monitor
-Graphics Card???
-Intel i7 4770K
-Same Cooler.
-Cooler Master Storm Stryker - White.
-Same Power Supply.
-ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA Motherboard.
-Add two more of the same Memory and max it out to 32.
-Add two more of the same SSDs and do x4 in Raid0.
-Same Store Drive.
-Can finally fit DVD writer in it's own slot like your typical shelf-model in stores.

Please let me know if this is okay too. I value people's opinions.
 
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1. 32GB RAM is only waste of money for Skyrim or for other games. I would say 16GB is already more than plenty, but if you like it, why not.
2. GTX770 or higher is already more than enough for Skyrim but a good investment for future games.
3. SSDs are already super fast, you won't really notice the difference with and without RAID. I see here also a waste of money but if you like, why not.
4. Upgrading from i7 3770k to i7 4770k will only bring max around 5% extra performance. I see it also as waste of money. I would rather invest the money more on the GPU than to upgrade to proc+mobo.

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It seems like a build a pc just to build one. Your current build is more than enough for skyrim with the expection of your gpu. Anything better than gtx 770 is an overkill at 1080 60HZ. For skyrim in particular, you could go with a gtx 770 4 gb, and no mods will waste more than that. Between gtx titan and gtx 780ti, I would recommend 780ti simply because titan is not really a gaming card, its meant for developers. Also, 32 gb of ram will have little effect unless you some particular purpose for it.
 
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Are you using the PC to do,other intensive applications other than gaming ? If not, a i7 won't be needed. For the GPU, since you're running a heavily nodded Skyrim, more VRAM would be needed so 2-4GB would be ideal. You could get a 4GB GTX 660, R9 270x, or GTX 760 or the 3GB R9 280X
 
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1. 32GB RAM is only waste of money for Skyrim or for other games. I would say 16GB is already more than plenty, but if you like it, why not.
2. GTX770 or higher is already more than enough for Skyrim but a good investment for future games.
3. SSDs are already super fast, you won't really notice the difference with and without RAID. I see here also a waste of money but if you like, why not.
4. Upgrading from i7 3770k to i7 4770k will only bring max around 5% extra performance. I see it also as waste of money. I would rather invest the money more on the GPU than to upgrade to proc+mobo.

 
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Hey guys. Thanks so much for your responses. (Glad i posted this board before i went to sleep last night). I can totally understand the whole upgrading to 4770K and board situation. The reason i thought so is because these Z87 Motherboards have multiple Intel SATA III ports perfect for doing a bigger RAID. My two 128's just isn't enough space anymore and unless you guys can point to me a Z77 motherboard with 4-Intel SATA 3 Ports, i would definitely not consider the Z87/1150 series. I hear stories where third party SATA 3 Ports limit SSD's. Another thing you might suggest is "get two 256's or one 512". Sadly, attempting to sell my two 128's to buy two 256's or one 512 is way more costy than just finding two more 128's on Ebay and just rebuild the format. I don't ever loose my data because i am constantly backing it up in my Storage Drive, and i reformat Windows 7 once every 3 months and just reinstall the updates and games (I save the entire Skyrim, The Sims 3, Oblivion, and another game's root folders, saves and such) and just send them back to their places on the new format.

As for the Graphics Card, are you saying that even a GTX 770 TI 4GB will be the exact same thing as the GTX 780 TI KingPin? Won't the KingPin still provide more power, or is that 3GB Vram going to be a nuisance? Yeah i just wanted to know if it would or not on a monitor like mine. But in the future there's an old model from Samsung i do want to get my hands on called Samsung S27A950D for it's beautiful colors and 120HZ abilities. (don't care about the 3D).

Okay, sounds like the Memory thing may not be needed then. I only said that to fill the empty banks on that board. As for another question: Video Editing is fun, but i used to do it so much better with the past GTX 670 FTW, and Titan. Dont' really do video editing all that much. Just something i do here and there. Not alot. lol.

A larger case is truely a must-have for me right now. I'm so sick and tired of constantly having to install my DVD writer thanks to my H100i having it's space inside a Bitfenix Prodigy and, i really like those cases i selected. They have a handle on top and look like space ships.

Anyway, sorry for all the typing. I just wanted to put as much input as i can into 1 post. But like i said, if you guys can find me a Z77 board with 4-Intel SATA III Ports, that would be so great!. But i don't think they exist..
 
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I would suggest the GTX 780 (non ti) so you will have optimal performance for any future elder scrolls there will be even with mods and stuff ... Upgrating from 3770K to 4770K is not a good idea for the current generation of gaming... you will not benefit anything more from the 4770k as a matter of gaming specially on games like skyrim.= but in any other existing applications as well. Except maybe a few FPS in games like crysis 3 which make use of more than 4 threads... Also a memory of 8 gb is more than enough for gaming since the latests games use up to 6gb of it... you have 16 gb of memory so.... yeah. :)
 
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I'm telling you any GPU above GTX770 is way beyond the current generation of gaming so you are more than great with the KingPin... You don't have to be on budget to make reasonable decisions. Actually I'm impressed that your MSI GTX 650 1GB won't play skyrim with mods... Plus in the future you will be able to SLI one of these cards ( I suggest you do this when SLI technology will be used by every game that you like) with a lot less money than a titan or a ti... But even if you choose to buy a ti you can SLI it too an have much greater performance than a single titan.
 
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Thanks Periman. Yeah i really like that KingPin so if you say i won't have any problems with it (i'm more worried about the whole 3GB Vram thing is why i'm constantly asking about it) then i will get it. But like i said, i play on a 1080p/1920x1080 resolution and maybe that won't be a problem. :p I'm just digging around for the lowest prices i can find.
 
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just get the regular 780ti classified… its the second fastest card in the world and you STILL have to bios flash, volt mod, and water block to see its true potential. but it is about $80-100 cheaper than the kingpin.

flashing the ln2 side of the classy bios is super easy, its probably best to just go get a team skynet custom bios and use nvflash. then use the classy voltage tool to manually change the core voltage, memory voltage, and the pwm frequency and you can still get well over 1.3ghz core at under 80c and be fully stable…. likely well above 1750mhz on the memory. you will have a beast of a card.
 
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So if i can figure out how to do what you're saying with the KingPin, then it will be worth it? Are there instructions for this? Because i want those benefits for what i'd pay then. :p
 
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