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Upgrading from HD 4600 onboard graphics (need help)

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May 1, 2014 2:41:13 PM

Budget range is around £100 (Around 150 US $) or less, want to upgrade my onboard graphics which I've had for a while now. I've never bought a graphics card before so I really need some help picking the right card :X

Main usage: Watching movies, playing light games (LoL/RuneScape etc), definitely planning on playing modern titles, games from 2012-13 etc, nothing specific but medium settings on most would be fine.

Other system specs: Core i7 4770, Asus H81M-A Motherboard (PCIE 1.1 - it needs to be compatible with this slot), Corsair 430W PSU, 8GB Vengeance RAM

Preferred website is amazon or any UK retailer. I won't be overclocking or anything hardcore like that, just need one card to run modern games at medium-high settings on 1920x1080 resolution with a decent framerate

My motherboard only has a PCI-E 1.1 slot which kinda sucks. I didn't know about this before and so I need a card that will work with this! Thanks. Also if it would be better to upgrade my motherboard so I can get PCI-E 3.0 please let me know (Current mobo works fine but limited expansion).
May 1, 2014 2:47:41 PM

I would get this It has a good price and will last you a long time if you don't game
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May 1, 2014 2:50:53 PM

But the ti version and the non ti version cost the same. Why the extra hassle?
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May 1, 2014 2:55:32 PM

That MB's chipset supports PCIe 2.0. Where did you see 1.1? http://ark.intel.com/products/75016/Intel-DH82H81-PCH

Your main issue will be the PSU. That will limit you to a mid-range card anyway. Maybe something like the R7-260X/R7-265/HD 7850 or GTX 750 Ti.
AMD: http://www.ebuyer.com/581417-msi-r7-260x-2gb-gddr5-dual...
Nvidia: http://www.ebuyer.com/621484-evga-gtx-750-superclocked-...

What resolution is your monitor?
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May 1, 2014 3:01:56 PM

mamamia13 said:
But the ti version and the non ti version cost the same. Why the extra hassle?


We both linked to Ti versions of the GTX 750. What do you mean?
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May 1, 2014 3:10:18 PM

You linked to the non ti. At least that's what I got
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May 1, 2014 3:49:44 PM

mamamia13 said:
You linked to the non ti. At least that's what I got


I just clicked my link 3 more times..... EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
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May 2, 2014 8:37:05 AM

clutchc said:
That MB's chipset supports PCIe 2.0. Where did you see 1.1? http://ark.intel.com/products/75016/Intel-DH82H81-PCH

Your main issue will be the PSU. That will limit you to a mid-range card anyway. Maybe something like the R7-260X/R7-265/HD 7850 or GTX 750 Ti.
AMD: http://www.ebuyer.com/581417-msi-r7-260x-2gb-gddr5-dual...
Nvidia: http://www.ebuyer.com/621484-evga-gtx-750-superclocked-...

What resolution is your monitor?


The resolution is the standard 1920x1080 resolution on a 24 inch display. Also I'm fairly sure the PCIe version is 1.1 which is pretty dumb. I saw this on the Asus site but it's also on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... which shows reviews of people saying that the slot is only 1.1

I'll probably buy a cheap motherboard but with PCIe 3.0 this time and return this motherboard since it's fairly new.
Anyway thanks. I'll go for the nvidia card since it seems like a reputable company and fits under my budget.

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May 2, 2014 9:43:29 AM

haslam22 said:
clutchc said:
That MB's chipset supports PCIe 2.0. Where did you see 1.1? http://ark.intel.com/products/75016/Intel-DH82H81-PCH

Your main issue will be the PSU. That will limit you to a mid-range card anyway. Maybe something like the R7-260X/R7-265/HD 7850 or GTX 750 Ti.
AMD: http://www.ebuyer.com/581417-msi-r7-260x-2gb-gddr5-dual...
Nvidia: http://www.ebuyer.com/621484-evga-gtx-750-superclocked-...

What resolution is your monitor?


The resolution is the standard 1920x1080 resolution on a 24 inch display. Also I'm fairly sure the PCIe version is 1.1 which is pretty dumb. I saw this on the Asus site but it's also on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... which shows reviews of people saying that the slot is only 1.1

I'll probably buy a cheap motherboard but with PCIe 3.0 this time and return this motherboard since it's fairly new.
Anyway thanks. I'll go for the nvidia card since it seems like a reputable company and fits under my budget.



The one person in the reviews that made that comment doesn't know what he's talking about. No one makes a Haswell board with PCIe 1.1 version anymore. Let alone ASUS.
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May 5, 2014 10:50:30 AM

clutchc said:
haslam22 said:
clutchc said:
That MB's chipset supports PCIe 2.0. Where did you see 1.1? http://ark.intel.com/products/75016/Intel-DH82H81-PCH

Your main issue will be the PSU. That will limit you to a mid-range card anyway. Maybe something like the R7-260X/R7-265/HD 7850 or GTX 750 Ti.
AMD: http://www.ebuyer.com/581417-msi-r7-260x-2gb-gddr5-dual...
Nvidia: http://www.ebuyer.com/621484-evga-gtx-750-superclocked-...

What resolution is your monitor?


The resolution is the standard 1920x1080 resolution on a 24 inch display. Also I'm fairly sure the PCIe version is 1.1 which is pretty dumb. I saw this on the Asus site but it's also on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... which shows reviews of people saying that the slot is only 1.1

I'll probably buy a cheap motherboard but with PCIe 3.0 this time and return this motherboard since it's fairly new.
Anyway thanks. I'll go for the nvidia card since it seems like a reputable company and fits under my budget.



The one person in the reviews that made that comment doesn't know what he's talking about. No one makes a Haswell board with PCIe 1.1 version anymore. Let alone ASUS.


Specs on ASUS site shows it's just PCI-E x16: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H81MA/specifications/

Previous thread saying it runs at 1.1: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1818131/asus-h81...

It seems more likely that it would run on PCI-E 2.0 (as some budget 1150 motherboards do) but it isn't specified anywhere. Sooo no idea.

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May 5, 2014 11:15:21 AM

If you're squeamish, pick another board. But all Haswell MBs derive their PCI Express version from the Intel processor, not some MB chipset. And the Haswell processors are all version 3.0. Of course, they will also be backward compatible with older versions of PCIe.
http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/Intel-Core-i7-4770-...
Scrcoll down to "Expansion Options"
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