Help On My First Gaming PC

TheJHigg

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I have custom built and I am ready to order my first gaming PC. I am looking to get a good lifespan and good performance under the $1300 mark.
Here are the main specs:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX w/ Military Class 4, OC Genie II, Sound Blaster Cinema Audio, Killer E2205 GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card
No over clocking, and my power source is 500w
The price comes in at $1260


Any ideas you guys have would be a great help towards my final decision on this PC
 
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Anyways, to further the advice, here's what I would do:

1) Ditch the i7. It gives you no benefit when you're gaming, and even for video editing, is $100 more for a slight reduction in render times. Dovakitty's suggestion of an i5-4670 is a great one if you don't want to overclock, but I would carry it down to an i5-4440, which will perform much the same but is cheaper.

2) This computer doesn't have an SSD, and you'll want one. I would get a 120GB Samsung EVO.

3) Ditch the 2133MHz ram, you aren't going to see much benefit from it. Get 2x4GB of 1600MHz, Cas 9 ram, and you're good to go.

4) That's a somewhat overpriced motherboard, and I don't care for it much. I would suggest the AsRock z87 Extreme 4 if you're interested in...
...please tell me you aren't buying this from a computer boutique.

Because you are getting absolutely scammed if you are for that price, and should not buy it. Period.

I strongly, STRONGLY suggest you look at a youtube video of how to build a computer. You can build a computer that runs circles around that one for less money with WAY more reliable parts and not wasting money on stupid things.

Building a computer seriously is not difficult - it's LEGOs for adults, and with the help of a youtube video, can be accomplished by the average 11-year old.
 

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Wow, some of the people here have been pretty mean. Lay off him (or her), it's their first. I recently built my first, and I know what it's like. To start with, you don't need an i7 for gaming (unless you're video editing), get an i5 4670 (not 4670k if you're not overclocking) and use that $100 on a better GPU. A GTX 770 is nice. :) The rest is fine, but you could save yourself some money by getting a 1600MHz RAM not a 2133MHz. Hope I helped.
 
^ I wasn't being mean, I was saying that from the way everything was written out, it looked like they were buying the computer from a prebuilt-"designer." I was explaining that was a horrible way to go, because they'll give you very bad builds and overcharge you on them. I then went on to explain that building a computer yourself shouldn't be seen as a scary task, and asked the OP to look up a video on how to do it to see if it was something they thought they could do.

I wasn't being accusatory, mean, or going after the OP in any way... and if it came across as though I were, I apologize.


Your advice, however, is perfectly valid, but I would continue it a fair bit to get a more balanced computer. Also, as the best answer was selected by someone other than the OP, and the thread isn't dead, I'm going to unselect it. I encourage the OP to choose your advice, as it's good, but it's the OP's decision, not the decision of someone who randomly posted in the same thread.
 
Anyways, to further the advice, here's what I would do:

1) Ditch the i7. It gives you no benefit when you're gaming, and even for video editing, is $100 more for a slight reduction in render times. Dovakitty's suggestion of an i5-4670 is a great one if you don't want to overclock, but I would carry it down to an i5-4440, which will perform much the same but is cheaper.

2) This computer doesn't have an SSD, and you'll want one. I would get a 120GB Samsung EVO.

3) Ditch the 2133MHz ram, you aren't going to see much benefit from it. Get 2x4GB of 1600MHz, Cas 9 ram, and you're good to go.

4) That's a somewhat overpriced motherboard, and I don't care for it much. I would suggest the AsRock z87 Extreme 4 if you're interested in overclocking and bought the "k" cpu, or the AsRock H87M Pro4 if you aren't.

5) You need a better video card. That's the bit that baffles me about a lot of prebuilts - you're taking a $320 CPU and pairing it with a GPU that costs half of that at most, and calling it a "Gaming PC!" The rule of thumb is to spend twice on your graphics card what you spend on your CPU.. so I would be looking at Dovahkitty's suggestion of a GTX 770. The other option, if you don't care about running the ultra preset, is a GTX 760, which is still a pretty dang good card.

6) You don't even list what your power supply is. The power supply is THE MOST IMPORTANT part in your computer. If it's something that got cheaped out on (which prebuilt manufacturers do), then it's more likely to fail... and when it does fail, it could light on fire, or fry the entire rest of your computer. Buy a quality power supply so that you don't have to worry about those things. If you get a 770, I would buy at least a 550w unit of very good make; seasonic is always good, antec is nearly always good, everything Corsair except for their CX line is good.


Again, TheJHigg, please go watch a few youtube videos on how to put a computer together. It's really very easy, and it's a far far better idea than buying a prebuilt. That way you aren't given an unbalanced computer that's got cheap parts wherever they could be hidden, all while paying $1-200 just for the convenience of having it built already.

Your first time building a computer, if you watch a youtube video through and then go back and watch it again, pausing it to complete each step, you should be able to build your computer in an afternoon. Surely that's worth being able to put $200 either in your pocket or into better parts for your rig.
 
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Thank you so much! I will take all your advice into consideration

 

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Thank you for all the help! I never thought you were being mean, I am inexperienced and tried to do some research online. I put what I thought was the best in a Cyberpower PC Configurator and put it here to get some opinions. I will
definitely take your advice into effect. One quick question though, what does a SSD do?

 
Of course, I'm always happy to help. As for putting your build together, there's a far better website for that - pcpartpicker. It has every part out there and gives you nice BBcode links to make pretty builds. :)

Glad to hear that you aren't going with a prebuilt - sorry if I seemed like I was being mean, but they really are complete rip-offs.

The SSD is basically a hard drive that has no moving parts and is 10x faster than a regular hard drive. So if you install windows to it, you boot up in just a couple seconds, and windows feels much more responsive.

Typically how it's used is you put windows on an SSD and (if it's a 120GB ssd, with windows 7 you have 60GB left, with windows 8 you have 80GB left) you install your programs to it, and the few games that gain a benefit. Most of your other games, and all of your data and videos and music go on a typical hard drive.

The reason for that is something like a video gains nothing from being on an SSD - it loads perfectly quickly from a hard drive. Most games also see no benefit - if you load to the map first in a shooter, you're still having to wait for everybody else to load before the match begins. However, windows and certain games (the ones that have annoying loading screens such as MMOs, Skyrim, Half-Life, ect) gain definite benefits from being on an SSD.

Since SSDs are also completely silent, it makes your computer quieter because your disk won't be seeking as often.