Help! Need Quick Response For i5-4430 versus FX 6300 !

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dsinghgill

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Guys, I need your opinion quick!

I am building a new (budget) gaming pc (my second ever).
Originally I decided to buy one of the AMD FX 6300 or 6350 ... ($110 and $140 respectively).

However, just now ... I saw on reddit that Staples, etc are doing a price-match for i5-4430 ... for only $100.

So I need opinions quick (before the deals run out).

Should I stick with the AMD choice ... or should I grab this i5 (which would mean that I have to find a budget mobo too) ????

I dont plan to overclock and with the right type of video cards, I want to be able to play games like BF4, TR, FC3 ... in smooth high quality.

So yeah ... please reply quick!
THANKS.
 
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It's 1920x1080 (Acer H233H)

And on newegg it says,

Horizontal Refresh Rate ----54.2-83.8KHz
Vertical Refresh Rate ----- 49-75Hz
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Will I be able to run games in pretty high quality with that i5?

However, what about with multithreaded games and stuff? Wouldn't the fx be better, as it has more cores?

In addition, what about comparing an fx 8320 or something to that i5?

Finally, will the i5 be more futureproof than the fx?
As in, can I get that cpu and later on upgrade to like an i7 with no probelm?

Thanks!!!!

Edit: And can someone explain why the i5 would be better?
 
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Can you answer some of the questions (in my post above)?
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"Will I be able to run games in pretty high quality with that i5?

However, what about with multithreaded games and stuff? Wouldn't the fx be better, as it has more cores?

In addition, what about comparing an fx 8320 or something to that i5?

Finally, will the i5 be more futureproof than the fx?
As in, can I get that cpu and later on upgrade to like an i7 with no probelm?

Thanks!!!!

Edit: And can someone explain why the i5 would be better?"
 
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The i5 has such fast performance per core that it can brute force even multithreaded apps, and it does have 4 cores which helps a lot for multithreading.

Now if there is real proper utilization of more than 4 cores, then yes, an FX CPU can pull ahead. FX-6300 shouldn't even be on the table. If you need the extra cores, then you need at least the FX-8320. I think the $100 i5 will serve you well though.
 
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cool sounds good.
However, quite frankly I still am bit confused. Doesn't the fx have more cache and a better clock speed?

Reagrdless, just to be clear ... if I get a good mobo and that i5 4430 .... would be also be nice to get that becuase if in the future i want to invest on a new powerful cpu like an i7, I would only have to replace the cpu?

And can you please addrees the gaming capability?
There seems so many mixed reviews everywhere with this i5 compared to the fx, in relation with gaming.
 
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Cache and clockspeed do not mean much, especially with the FX. The Blulldozer/Piledriver saw a huge regression in L3 cache performance.

To quote mdocod (CPU scientist)

Regarding L3.

L3 makes a significant difference in performance if it is substantially faster than system RAM (higher bandwidth and lower latency). Unfortunately bulldozer/piledriver architecture represents a regression in L3 performance compared to the K10 architecture. When we factor in the regression in L3 performance, combined with the improved memory controller (can run higher speeds/bandwidth, lower effective latency), the delta in performance between the L3 cache and just using system RAM instead, is minimal on PD.

Unfortunately, when the CPU is sharing a memory controller with the GPU, the performance of the system memory (from the CPUs perspective) tanks, and there would be significant advantages to having L3 available to the CPU in this configuration. Pretty silly eh? On FX, L3 isn't important because the system memory is dedicated and the L3 is too slow to offer advantages. Where L3 would have the best chance of improving performance, is on the platform that doesn't have room on the die for it.

In contrast, the L3 performance on the Intel platform, is comparable to the L2 performance on the AMD platform, as such, L3 makes a BIG difference in performance on a haswell chip.
Click to expand...

Since you are not overclocking, the i5 is really the only choice here.

I'm a huge AMD fan, by the way, but I am also a realist.
 
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@damric ... I just bought the i5-4430 for $100 .... Thanks again!
One more step closer to my build!
Plus saving this much money with my cpu, allows me to spend a bit more on the gpu!

Now off to the mobo and video card.

Any suggestions for the mobo?
I want a nice budget mobo, but one that is good and can last long, if I ever need to upgrade my cpu to like an i7.


Oh and I saw these 3 deals for video cards.
Can you please help me to choose which one is the best (for gaming) and most worth it, (for price and futureproof value)?

Or is there something better I should go after?

Anyway, the 3 cards are ...

PowerColor AX7850 2GBD5-DHEV2 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 Video Card .... $100

XFX Radeon Double D R9 270X R9-270X-CDFC 2GB DDR5 Video Card ... $160

Asus 750Ti OC .... $135



 
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It's 1920x1080 (Acer H233H)

And on newegg it says,

Horizontal Refresh Rate ----54.2-83.8KHz
Vertical Refresh Rate ----- 49-75Hz
 
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