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May 2, 2014 2:52:17 PM

Hi guys/gals, I took on a challenge from a co-worker that my ancient ASUS A8R-MVP would never run Windows 7 and Black Ops.

I plunged a ton of money into a stupid project which now works, but of course not to my satisfaction.
If someone is thinking about doing the same, DO NOT DO IT. Forget about your old stuff, even if it hurts, get new hardware.

I am in a new build and got me a MSI Z87-G45 mobo. Now, RAM, CPU, GPU?

I love playing FPS games, like COD/Black Ops and would like to see graphics on high or very high for a change. (DX11)

I don't really have a budget, but would like to stay in the $800/1000 range.

Thanks in advance for any advice. The MoBo is socket 1150 btw. (= i7 4770 maybe?)

PS: It's going in a Aerocool Strike-X One Army case with a Corsair RM850 PSU which I already have. Sorry to bother you all, maybe this has been asked a 1000 times, but my last build dates from the AMD Athlon 64 / X1xxx gpu era so I am kinda overwhelmed with all this new tech...
May 2, 2014 3:01:26 PM

Here's a suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($73.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($399.99 @ TigerDirect)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($76.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $999.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-02 18:01 EDT-0400)
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May 2, 2014 3:20:18 PM

well that old motherboard with an athlon 64x2 6000 probably would manage... barely... so i understand your delema.

ok... so you want to play COD on high or very high, and you insist on intel.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($113.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $658.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-02 18:15 EDT-0400)

that will do it, on high atleast... now if we step it up a bit...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $851.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-02 18:19 EDT-0400)
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May 2, 2014 3:25:38 PM

Oh crap, I forgot to mention I have 2 Kingston sata 3 SSD's a 60Gb (holds the OS) and a 120Gb (for the Steam library). Using a Seagate 7200rpm 120Gb as a storage unit for photos and stuff.

I had a really bad experience with ATI HD video cards so those are not going in my rig, Nvidia or nothing sorry.

And thanks for all the help but ....no i7? As I said money is not really an issue..

ingtar33 said:
well that old motherboard with an athlon 64x2 6000 probably would manage... barely... so i understand your delema.


Well, funny enough, it ran Black Ops 1 (with a ton of lag, but sorta playable) on a AMD 64x2 4400 with 2 X1650pro's in crossfire lol. It now has a FX-60 with a GTX 260/216 and that runs better, but still...it has ancient RAM (max 4Gb) and the CPU is just a piece of junk compared to the new 4 and 8 core ones. Time to move on.

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May 2, 2014 3:28:45 PM

Tonycrd said:
Oh crap, I forgot to mention I have 2 Kingston sata 3 SSD's a 60Gb (holds the OS) and a 120Gb (for the Steam library). Using a Seagate 7200rpm 120Gb as a storage unit for photos and stuff.

I had a really bad experience with ATI HD video cards so those are not going in my rig, Nvidia or nothing sorry.

And thanks for all the help but ....no i7? As I said money is not really an issue..


knock 90 off the price of my two builds for the SSD i tossed onto it and you have the final price of each.
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May 2, 2014 4:01:08 PM

Ok cool, so an i5 and a GTX 760 will do the trick..that's good to know, thanks!
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May 2, 2014 4:07:58 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($499.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1066.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-02 18:58 EDT-0400)

And here is top end.

Upgraded from Hyper212, Will fit your case easily, and if OC can overheat this cooler, you should have gone LGA 2011.
CAS8 1866MHz. faster than standard offering CAS9 1600.
You need a games/storage HDD, 120Gb's will fill fast with what you could play with this build.
MSI GTX 780. This will handle any game you can throw at it, ultra settings, will do multi-monitor easily. MSI claims better performance when matched gpu/mobo vrs MSI/other brand. Not sure if this is totally accurate, but it can't hurt.
Tier1 PSU. A little oversized, but was cheaper than most of the decent 650W. This is top of the line PSU.

Rest is up to you, OS, optical, accessories etc.

I personally would not use the RM850, It has terrible thermals and is built using the worst secondary capacitors in the industry. Failure under any heavy stress is a common occurrence, and not one I'd like to contemplate considering the price of your build, especially the gpu.
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May 2, 2014 4:08:19 PM

So, you already have MoBo, Case, PSU and Storage... so, for your $1000 I'd choose this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($499.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1003.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-02 19:05 EDT-0400)

An i5 is enough for gaming but since you mentioned the i7, I put it in. I also put it in a high end water cooler and the GTX 780 since you said no AMD (I still think that the R9 290 offers better price/performance than the GTX 780).
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May 28, 2014 2:11:46 PM

I had serious driver problems with AMD... HD2900xt went up in flames ..twice.... :-(

I think AMD dropped the ball on driver support when they took over ATI. Anyway, I see tons of ASUS GTX cards on ebay for parts, makes me kinda steer away from Asus. I had a Gainward GS 250gtx that absolutely rocked, (until a pci dust blind fell on it ..oh no) so leaning towards another Gainward card.

Here's what I came up with: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kLTKcf

and thanks for all the answers guys, much appreciated!
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