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May 4, 2014 1:16:13 PM

I'm building a new gaming pc in early june and I can't decide what monitor to choose. I'm getting a pretty high end pc with a 4770k and a 780 and I expect to get fairly high frame rates on most games (60-120 fps). I've done a fair amount of research and understand what happens when you go over your refresh rate with too high of an fps. You get tearing. I could just buy a 60hz monitor now and turn on v-sync and have an OKAY experience but I want to get the most out of this expensive gpu. My main question is, what happens if I have a 144hz monitor (w/out g-sync) and say i only get 80 fps. What happens? Does it stutter? Should I just wait and save up for an expensive g-sync monitor? Thanks for all answers in advance!
May 4, 2014 1:32:09 PM

vsync will give you input lag even at 60 fps minimum, if you dip below 60 you get 30fps, with a 144hz and no vsync monitor you will get more out of the increased fps above 60, you can still lock the fps to 60 in many games btw. 80 fps is much better than vsync 60, and you will get more than 100 fps in many games. tearing is you only problem with unsynced hz\fps. i dont noticed any on my 144hz, remember inputlag folows the fps, lower fps more input lag. best 144fps, good 100, ok 80, 60 playable, 40 limiting gameplay, 20 unplayable.
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May 4, 2014 1:44:11 PM

Plusthinking Iq said:
vsync will give you input lag even at 60 fps minimum, if you dip below 60 you get 30fps, with a 144hz and no vsync monitor you will get more out of the increased fps above 60, you can still lock the fps to 60 in many games btw. 80 fps is much better than vsync 60, and you will get more than 100 fps in many games. tearing is you only problem with unsynced hz\fps. i dont noticed any on my 144hz, remember inputlag folows the fps, lower fps more input lag. best 144fps, good 100, ok 80, 60 playable, 40 limiting gameplay, 20 unplayable.

So Im assuming you know some benchmarks, say I get bf4 and run it on ultra and get 80 fps. (same case for any game but im using this one as an example). What monitor would you recommend? Of course I want a good ms response time and I want to use all 80 frames that my gpu pumps out. What do you use? What works best for you?
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May 4, 2014 2:06:44 PM

link to LinusTechTips BenQ XL2420TE 144Hz Gaming LCD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6wIMaYjklE

i think that is some of the best gaming monitor out there, i use the asus 24" 144hz monitor, non g-synced. the nice thing is you can turn down a few settings in game and get 144fps, now thats a nice upgrade from a 60hz monitor. and you still have the headrom to drop to 60fps and get away in pressing fights.
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May 4, 2014 2:35:05 PM

Plusthinking Iq said:
link to LinusTechTips BenQ XL2420TE 144Hz Gaming LCD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6wIMaYjklE

i think that is some of the best gaming monitor out there, i use the asus 24" 144hz monitor, non g-synced. the nice thing is you can turn down a few settings in game and get 144fps, now thats a nice upgrade from a 60hz monitor. and you still have the headrom to drop to 60fps and get away in pressing fights.

Sounds good! But just too be clear. . . If I get a 144hz monitor, what fps should i aim for? Should I aim for over 144 hz so that if I enable v-sync, It will barely drop below 144hz? And you might have already answered this but say I get your asus monitor or that BenQ, and get around 100 fps, what will happen.
What im trying to say is that I dont want to invest in a monitor with a high refresh rate and then only get 100 fps and then suffer the consequences. IS there any? My final question ---> What will happen if I play any game on a 144hz monitor or 120hz monitor and only get 100 fps? Sorry for dragging this on, your help is appreciated!
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May 4, 2014 3:27:42 PM

that benq monitor i linked is much better than my asus 144hz in colors btw.....

with no vsync every single fps added is better up to hz cap on monitor ofc. with vsync on a 60hz monitor it locks to 60 removing tearing but increase the inputlag or input delay. if you ever dip below 60fps you get instant 30fps for the duration. vsync on 144hz monitor usually locks fps to 144 and if you get below get 72fps, but some games may not recognize 144hc vsync....... only downside of disable vsync is tearing, but you should not notice any tearing at all, because its even less visible on a high hz monitor, stuttering is a side effect of vsync and sli\crossfire.
60 fps is better with no vsync if you want to get a competitive edge, if you get some weird tearing that bother you, try vsync on. 80fps will improve visual smoothness and reduce inputlag, there seems not to be any bad side effect from running any fps between 61fps to 143fps on a 144hz monitor.
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