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I5 4570 + r9 280x vs Fx 8350 + gtx 760 vs I5 4670k + gtx 760

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May 4, 2014 1:47:48 PM

Hey guys . I wanted to know which one of the following rig can play Watch dogs on ultra and would be more future proof as upcoming games would require more than 4 cores . I won't be overclocking if its i5 4570 + r9 280x and will overclock if your suggested rig is other than i5 4570 + r9 280x . Will do crossfire or sli in future.. I want this rig to last me 4 years before any upgrade.

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May 4, 2014 1:50:21 PM

i5 4570 + R9 280x.
Simple answer.
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May 4, 2014 2:04:13 PM

ImperialistMillitant said:
i5 4570 + R9 280x.
Simple answer.

He's right. Intel all the way even though AMD has more cores. Amd has lost its competitive edge in the high-end desktop cpu market. I will be moving from the FX-6300 to the Devil's Canyon Haswel refresh in June. (The top end i5)

As a side note ignore the "ultra" requirements of an i7 to max the game out. The only way you would need that is if Ubisoft makes a terrible port. Games still don't use hyperthreading the way they should.
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May 4, 2014 2:09:15 PM

frillybob101 said:
ImperialistMillitant said:
i5 4570 + R9 280x.
Simple answer.

He's right. Intel all the way even though AMD has more cores. Amd has lost its competitive edge in the high-end desktop cpu market. I will be moving from the FX-6300 to the Devil's Canyon Haswel refresh in June. (The top end i5)

As a side note ignore the "ultra" requirements of an i7 to max the game out. The only way you would need that is if Ubisoft makes a terrible port. Games still don't use hyperthreading the way they should.


The FX 8350 is still a brilliant and respectable CPU, the only reason I went with an i5 is because of skyrim. I dislike intel because I think they rip us off left, right and center. Most games are only a few frames behind on the FX from an i5 perspective. I chose the i5 and R9-280x option because the 280x is a rebranded HD7970 which is superior to the GTX 760.
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May 5, 2014 3:32:47 AM

Do you guys think its safe to overclock and do i really need overclocking my Cpu ? Well i don't wanna burn my processor.
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May 5, 2014 3:42:00 AM

Ahsankhaan said:
Do you guys think its safe to overclock and do i really need overclocking my Cpu ? Well i don't wanna burn my processor.


Only the FX 8350 and i5 4670k are unlocked. You don't really need to overclock the CPU as they are both fine, however some find that its better value for money to overclock them. Minor overclocks are generally harmless so why not?
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May 5, 2014 7:50:36 AM

How long would this rig last me before r9 280x crossfire and would i5 4570 and ga b85m d3h bottleneck r9 280x crossfire.?
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May 5, 2014 8:48:31 AM

You cannot crossfire with that motherboard. You really need an Asrock Z87 extreme3 at minimum for that.
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May 5, 2014 10:28:26 AM

logainofhades said:
You cannot crossfire with that motherboard. You really need an Asrock Z87 extreme3 at minimum for that.


I saw on its site that this motherboard can do crossfire .
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May 5, 2014 10:31:16 AM

Ahsankhaan said:
logainofhades said:
You cannot crossfire with that motherboard. You really need an Asrock Z87 extreme3 at minimum for that.


I saw on its site that this motherboard can do crossfire .


But the second slot only runs at x4 speed, which will affect performance. If you want Crossfire, get a proper board for it that can at least do x8 speed on both GPU slots when it in CF or SLI mode.
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May 6, 2014 5:25:19 AM

logainofhades said:
Ahsankhaan said:
logainofhades said:
You cannot crossfire with that motherboard. You really need an Asrock Z87 extreme3 at minimum for that.


I saw on its site that this motherboard can do crossfire .


But the second slot only runs at x4 speed, which will affect performance. If you want Crossfire, get a proper board for it that can at least do x8 speed on both GPU slots when it in CF or SLI mode.


But i am not planning to oc then why Z87 mobo ?
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May 6, 2014 5:46:05 AM

ASUS H87-PLUS What do you say about this ? Does this support Crossfire ?
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May 6, 2014 7:53:06 AM

No, it is also x4 mode for the second slot. Z87 isn't just about overclocking, it is also about proper multi-gpu support. You are so stuck on the overclocking aspect of the chipset that you are missing the complete picture. I am not aware of any H87 board that has at least x8 speed in the second slot, when 2 cards are used. Also, the Z87 extreme3 is only $3.50 more than that Asus H87-Plus you just asked about.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $109.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 10:52 EDT-0400)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $106.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 10:52 EDT-0400)
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May 6, 2014 8:47:09 AM

I would also go with the i5 4570 and 280x unless a GTX770 is on sale for close to the 280x price. Right now, $22 separate the cheapest 280x and the cheapest 770 I would buy.
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May 6, 2014 10:24:58 AM

logainofhades said:
No, it is also x4 mode for the second slot. Z87 isn't just about overclocking, it is also about proper multi-gpu support. You are so stuck on the overclocking aspect of the chipset that you are missing the complete picture. I am not aware of any H87 board that has at least x8 speed in the second slot, when 2 cards are used. Also, the Z87 extreme3 is only $3.50 more than that Asus H87-Plus you just asked about.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $109.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 10:52 EDT-0400)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $106.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 10:52 EDT-0400)


CTurbo said:
I would also go with the i5 4570 and 280x unless a GTX770 is on sale for close to the 280x price. Right now, $22 separate the cheapest 280x and the cheapest 770 I would buy.

Asrock z87 is not available in my country :/  tell me something else
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May 6, 2014 10:31:58 AM

GIGABYTE GA-Z87-HD3 what about this ??
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May 6, 2014 10:53:53 AM

Sadly, that board is also an x4 as it is a pretty low end Z87 board, from gigabyte. Where are you located? Might be easier to just pick a board out that way.
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May 6, 2014 11:43:30 AM

i am from pakistan
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May 6, 2014 12:01:18 PM

logainofhades said:
Sadly, that board is also an x4 as it is a pretty low end Z87 board, from gigabyte. Where are you located? Might be easier to just pick a board out that way.



OK i found 2 motherboards . Msi B85-G43 And Asus Motherboard Z87-K . If i go with asus one ill upgrade my cpu to i5 4670k and ill overclock that processor after 2 or 3 years . But i am afraid that if i overclock it can burn my chip and here in pakistan its hard for me to purchase another processor . Ill later Add cooler master hyper 212 evo if i go with z87-k + i5 4670k . Another thing if Asus z87-k is not able to crossfire i will simply can't go higher than that. Do i really need to overclock ? if not i simply go with i5 4570 + msi b85-g43 .
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May 6, 2014 12:33:04 PM

Both these boards can crossfire but the problem is that the second card will perform at x4 which means u will not get full benefit of crossfire. Overclocking is not necessary, it will give only marginal performance gains
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May 6, 2014 12:54:04 PM

Raheel Hasan said:
Both these boards can crossfire but the problem is that the second card will perform at x4 which means u will not get full benefit of crossfire. Overclocking is not necessary, it will give only marginal performance gains

Ok in this case. i can go with fx 8350 + ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 or i5 3570k + asrock z77 extreme4.Well i am leaning towards Fx . That 8 cores + 8 threads would help me in watch dogs and other future games . What do you prefer ?
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May 6, 2014 1:54:27 PM

You are still missing the whole point of, if the second card slot runs at x4, you do not want it.
From the Asus Z87-k

Expansion Slots
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode, yellow)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, dark brown)

Edit* I have that i5 3570k combo. It has been good to me. I thought I hit submit earlier and had not, before I was called away to a meeting.
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May 7, 2014 2:10:14 AM

logainofhades said:
You are still missing the whole point of, if the second card slot runs at x4, you do not want it.
From the Asus Z87-k

Expansion Slots
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode, yellow)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, dark brown)

Edit* I have that i5 3570k combo. It has been good to me. I thought I hit submit earlier and had not, before I was called away to a meeting.


I guess its a no brainer to go with i5 3570k which is 3rd generation right now. its has a dead socket 1155 so fx 8350 would be better i watched linustech in which he compared i5 3570k with fx 8350 , i5 had a lead in old games there but in newer games fx 8350 was ahead . he also told that more threads would be more beneficial .Both will cost me exact same . Or simply i don't go with heavy end motherboard for crossfire and overclockable processor And get the i5 4570 and r9 290 ? And how long would r9 290 last me ? would there be any bottleneck with r9 290 and i5 4570 and ga-b85-d3h?
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May 7, 2014 2:10:17 AM

logainofhades said:
You are still missing the whole point of, if the second card slot runs at x4, you do not want it.
From the Asus Z87-k

Expansion Slots
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode, yellow)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, dark brown)

Edit* I have that i5 3570k combo. It has been good to me. I thought I hit submit earlier and had not, before I was called away to a meeting.


I guess its a no brainer to go with i5 3570k which is 3rd generation right now. its has a dead socket 1155 so fx 8350 would be better i watched linustech in which he compared i5 3570k with fx 8350 , i5 had a lead in old games there but in newer games fx 8350 was ahead . he also told that more threads would be more beneficial .Both will cost me exact same . Or simply i don't go with heavy end motherboard for crossfire and overclockable processor And get the i5 4570 and r9 290 ? And how long would r9 290 last me ? would there be any bottleneck with r9 290 and i5 4570 and ga-b85-d3h?
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May 7, 2014 2:10:17 AM

logainofhades said:
You are still missing the whole point of, if the second card slot runs at x4, you do not want it.
From the Asus Z87-k

Expansion Slots
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode, yellow)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode, dark brown)

Edit* I have that i5 3570k combo. It has been good to me. I thought I hit submit earlier and had not, before I was called away to a meeting.


I guess its a no brainer to go with i5 3570k which is 3rd generation right now. its has a dead socket 1155 so fx 8350 would be better i watched linustech in which he compared i5 3570k with fx 8350 , i5 had a lead in old games there but in newer games fx 8350 was ahead . he also told that more threads would be more beneficial .Both will cost me exact same . Or simply i don't go with heavy end motherboard for crossfire and overclockable processor And get the i5 4570 and r9 290 ? And how long would r9 290 last me ? would there be any bottleneck with r9 290 and i5 4570 and ga-b85-d3h?
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May 7, 2014 6:48:08 AM

The 4570, that b85 board, and an R9 290 would be a nice combo for sure. The R9 290 would last you quite some time. It is the 2nd fastest single gpu card AMD has right now and a good deal faster than even my HD 7970. Crossfire does come with its own issues. Not all games support it, and then microstuttering issues. A single fast card is often a better idea.
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May 7, 2014 6:52:06 AM

logainofhades said:
The 4570, that b85 board, and an R9 290 would be a nice combo for sure. The R9 290 would last you quite some time. It is the 2nd fastest single gpu card AMD has right now and a good deal faster than even my HD 7970. Crossfire does come with its own issues. Not all games support it, and then microstuttering issues. A single fast card is often a better idea.

Thanks alot mate. Do you think there would be any bottleneck in that combo ?And would be able to play watch dogs on ultra and how long would it last me ?

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May 7, 2014 8:14:04 AM

Should be no bottlenecks. Watch Dogs, I cannot say as I have not seen any benchmark results for it.
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