There are SO many VM gaming options. could you please help decide?

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Hey guys,

I'm working with a FX-9370 and two R7 gfx cards. My hope is to create 2 or 3(third for our son) virtual machines under linux. Ash and I like to play video games occasionally and we would like to turn off our second computer to save power. I believe my PC is strong enough to run 2 gaming systems(league and sims for the most part, nothing spectacular( and maybe an abcmouse.com system. rarely all at the same time but set up to do so.

What do you guys think? With all the options, Xen, KVM, VMware etc etc i have no idea where to start and really there are so many options trial and error seems like it would take decades.
 
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There's no glory in ignorance. At least you now know a little more about what you are researching.

Don't put people down who are trying to help you. It just makes you look a little pathetic.
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I don't think you will get acceptable gaming performance in a VM. But it's not that difficult to try one and see. Try VirtualBox to start with; it's free and generaly has good performance.

But, TBH, you're better off with a real machine set up for gaming.
 
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e only way to get good performance is if your motherboard supports AMD-VI/ Intel VT-d so you can utilize GPU pass through to the virtual machine.

The typical way to do this is through xen or KVM. KVM GPU pass through is relatively new but works very well.

 
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Ya ive been reading about KVM and xen and the others. KVM seems like a pretty daunting task while xen doesnt really allow me to do what i need to do, i dont think. Maybe with MultiseatX i can use Xen. hmm. KVM is a keyboard, video, mouse switch so i think with that i could have as many head spaces as i could ever want.

Im just fishing for a guy/gal with a lot of experience in this matter and hoping they like me! haha

 
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I have been messing with VM's so far it seems like all they will or can use(free ones anyway) is a sort of a virtual graphics to trick the OS into thinking everything is right in its world.

 
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You must be as bored as him.

 
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Besides ive found and read those before they linked them. im not looking for someone to do the work for me or troll my post. I WAS looking for someone with experience in the matter that could point me in the right direction or share their experiences. as much as i could appreciate you two clogging my post you are not what i asked for or are looking for.
 
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Skittle was trying to make sure you understood that you can't have multiple keyboards and mice running your screen no more that you can have two or three steering wheels in your car.

If you want to run all the games on one machine but different screens then you need a thin client setup. If you have the room for multiple games in VMs on your screen then you might be able to install multiple versions of linux and designate a specific keyboard and mouse, I don't know if that would work, Ijack? I've had no reason to try but it wouldn't cost you anything to experiment a little and it'd be real, real hard to mess up your system.
 
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I'm pretty sure that you can, indeed, attach different USB keyboards and mice to different VMs. But for games playing it would be a total waste of time. One VM would struggle, two would crawl.

That's it for me in this thread. I've better things to do with my time than deal with people who ask for advice and then insult those who give it. Life's too short.
 
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all i asked for was an experienced opinion. not a rude copy/paste troll nor an inexperienced opinion from a guy defending a guy who was insulted for being insulting while insulting. you two are morons.

stillblue. i appreciate your time buddy but this post is a lost cause. all the guides i have found are for linux users needing to run windows apps sometimes. what i hoped to find one day is say a linux distro as a foundation for multiple VMs with more than emulated graphics for each. multiple pass throughs and someones EXPERIENCED WORD on the matter. or even regular windows with a windows VM or two each using separate graphics cards. Pretty much just a computer hidden away with some fully functional terminals in each room.
 
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The general response to these kind of inquiries in the free software community is: "patches welcome".

If the current existing software/distribution/ documentation is not up to your standards then you are welcome to improve it, create your own Or sponsor/pay for the work to be done.

I still don't understand why you can't comprehend the archlinux link. It is 67 pages of exactly what you ask for!
a linux distro as a foundation for multiple VMs with more than emulated graphics for each.
Click to expand...

This is intented for people who wish to pass-through a GPU to a virtual machine, for gaming, etc, doing a primary vga passthrough (no cirrus emulated card),
Click to expand...
Practically that entire thread is about getting a fully virtualized windows and GPU pass through for gaming!
 
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I have yet to find anyone talking about more than 1. I have read that post off and on since before i made this post. i never wanted someone to find info for me. i wanted, since i had never seen anyone doing or talking about more than one, to find someone that has done more than one.. to tell me what it was like for them. if it worked, what worked better or worse. why is it so hard for you to wrap your mind around that?

 
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Skittle gave you an "EXPERIENCED WORD". He linked for you instructions that he has probably used and found helpful. He does that a lot. He has far more experience than probably the rest of us here combined and does a lot of experimenting. If you ask a Christian* "How can I seek God?" do you expect them to recite the bible or give you a copy to read?

*Insert Jew, Muslim, Atheist, tree hugger as you prefer.
 
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he didnt give me an experienced word, he gave me a link. in none of his links have i found anyone doing, again, more than 1 vm. therefore, i still wonder, how well would it work.

Ijack is the only person that has given an answer anywhere near what i was looking for. however is obviously inexperienced in the matter because at least one guy doing the VM with passthrough reports 95% performance on the 1 vm. even if a second VM didnt get best case performance(47.5% perfectly split) the machine or VM would not crawl. If it did, id be mindblown. which is what i was trying to find out, without trying out all the options. instead, ive found 2 1/2 idiots trying to screw in a wrong sized lightbulb.
 
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I'm having trouble imagining why you'd want more than one. How are you going to crowd three people and keyboards around one machine? That's probably why you don't see documentation on it. But after you try one it costs nothing but a little time to install a second and then come back here and dazzle us with your newfound experience, good or bad. I mean that seriously, most of us that come here often do so to learn as much as to share. If I could I'd buy Ijack a few beers for what I've learned from him and Skittle would be in for some pitchers.
 
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I suppose a normal person would have said, instead of going through all the trouble youve been through, hey man i think you havnt quite hit the nail on the head in your searches. second hit in my searches yielded this, try it. then there id be like oh man thanks a million... thats a ton of advanced shit do you think it would work for everyday people? im up for the challenge, just would like a heads up of what you think id be in for.

 
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No dude, actually, i have 2 r7s and an older nvdia card hooked up to 3 tvs. 2 in the living room and one in the bedroom. maybe a 4th one day in the kids room. without this fancy set up skittle and i are arguing over its just 3 monitors. one day hopefully theyll all be different terminals. no crowding, no multiple steering wheels for the same car.
 
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