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May 6, 2014 1:24:04 PM

Well to answer basic questions

Budget-£900-£1200

Do you need peripherals - yes, I need monitor, keyboard, mouse and head phones

OS?- yes

Over-clocking? - No

Shop preference- anything on UK part picker but would like to all be from the same shop

Product preference- nvidia and intel preferably but would be open to AMD if you can justify it

Monitor- it has to be 1080p but that's about it

Sli- no, should I?

Games I plan on playing- highly modded Skyrim, Watch dogs, BF4, maybe wolvenstien

Hi so I tried to answer any questions you might have but basically I want a powerful pc, enough to get 40-60 FPS on 1080p monitor for £1200, I could go up to £1300 if necessary but would prefer not to.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com

Thanks





May 6, 2014 1:32:21 PM

This will max everything at 1080p, allows for overclocking (even though you say you don't, you will in the future--trust me), and comes in WAY under your budget while including everything you asked for :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.57 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.08 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£18.00 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£9.48 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £936.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:31 BST+0100)
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May 6, 2014 1:46:18 PM

s4in7 said:
This will max everything at 1080p, allows for overclocking (even though you say you don't, you will in the future--trust me), and comes in WAY under your budget while including everything you asked for :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.57 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.08 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£18.00 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£9.48 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £936.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:31 BST+0100)



You didn't include a case and it's also not from the same shop
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May 6, 2014 1:46:50 PM

Oops forgot a case! Here it is, now complete with a case: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.57 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.08 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.04 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£18.00 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£9.48 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £964.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:46 BST+0100)
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May 6, 2014 1:47:57 PM

Billy C said:
s4in7 said:
This will max everything at 1080p, allows for overclocking (even though you say you don't, you will in the future--trust me), and comes in WAY under your budget while including everything you asked for :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.57 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.08 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£18.00 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£9.48 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £936.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:31 BST+0100)



You didn't include a case and it's also not from the same shop


Dude...I believe you meant to say "thank you".

Also, you said any vendor from UK Part Picker, but preferred a single vendor.

Nevermind, I'm done helping you--good luck.
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May 6, 2014 1:49:04 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3F8hQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3F8hQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3F8hQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£151.19 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£58.62 @ Dabs)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.23 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card (£319.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ RL2455HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£133.99 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Corsair Raptor K30 Wired Gaming Keyboard (£37.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse (£60.90 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset (£58.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1223.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:48 BST+0100)


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May 6, 2014 1:50:48 PM

290 is WAY overkill for 1080p. Here's the build from a single merchant and with a case:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£193.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£66.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£246.36 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.90 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£30.24 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£11.49 @ Amazon UK)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £965.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:49 BST+0100)
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May 6, 2014 1:52:15 PM

I would recommend a AMD GPU for value but also for performance. Most of your games are AMD optimized so I'm going to recommend the R9 280x. I also took into account that you didn't want to overclock so I went with a i5 that isn't unlocked. I added a aftermarket cooler mainly because it will keep things cooler and quieter you can exclude if you want. I choose very subjective pieces of equipment as well for example headphones. If you have headphones you like you can opt to get a external mic for example a blue snowflake. Also, I found a functional mouse that I would recommend however your taste may be different. I also went with a mechanical keyboard with cherry mx browns which may be something you may or may not like. The monitor is a solid one from ASUS its not a IPS panel but its a good panel large enough screen size I'd imagine if you need larger you could get larger. I wouldn't go with a CF/or SLI solution I feel you give yourself more problems then you resolve them. More heat, more power, less stability I'm a supporter of a 1 strong gpu solution.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£136.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£74.95 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.72 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£56.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.23 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£220.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.65 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.04 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.96 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor (£149.05 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Logitech G400 Wired Optical Mouse (£43.00 @ Amazon UK)
Headphones: Sennheiser PC 320 Headset (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Other: Coolermaster QuickFire Ultimate Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Cherry MX Brown (£78.48)
Total: £1169.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:52 BST+0100)
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May 6, 2014 1:54:08 PM

How are these builds so much more expensive?! I managed to get him a better video card, CPU, and power supply for $100's less!

EDITED: being nicer
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May 6, 2014 1:56:02 PM

s4in7 said:
Billy C said:
s4in7 said:
This will max everything at 1080p, allows for overclocking (even though you say you don't, you will in the future--trust me), and comes in WAY under your budget while including everything you asked for :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£163.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.57 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.08 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£63.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£81.27 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£18.00 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£9.48 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £936.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 21:31 BST+0100)



You didn't include a case and it's also not from the same shop


Dude...I believe you meant to say "thank you".

Also, you said any vendor from UK Part Picker, but preferred a single vendor.

Nevermind, I'm done helping you--good luck.


s4in7 said:
How are these builds so much more expensive?! I managed to get him a better video card, CPU, and power supply for $100's less!

Frankly I don't care if OP overspends, because he's kind of a jerk, but good god people!



I didn't say thank you because I thought it would seem like I had decided on my build but you have been the most helpful, so thanks
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May 6, 2014 1:57:34 PM

Well I rescind my jerk statement. It's been a long day and I took it more maliciously than you meant it, so I'm sorry.
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May 6, 2014 2:00:03 PM

s4in7 said:
How are these builds so much more expensive?! I managed to get him a better video card, CPU, and power supply for $100's less!

EDITED: being nicer


There are things you are missing in your build that perhaps people have included in theirs. For example I included a A SSD you did not. I went for a subjective things which he kind of asked for when he asked for monitor, mouse and keyboard. I went with a mechanical keyboard, I went with a good mouse, a strong headset with a mic although personally I prefer the mic external and a good functioning headphone, a strong ASUS panel. And in my opinion a stronger case that isn't a budget case. Budget cases are great however given the budget the original poster has I would suggest something that is a good functioning case with some extra things that budget cases just frankly don't have.
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May 6, 2014 2:16:09 PM

Well those are nice if you have ample money to burn--I gave him all very highly-rated components and parts, and although the case is a budget case it's got features that much more expensive cases have like cable management cutouts and bottom mounted PSU. Mechanical keyboards are nice, but they are in NO WAY necessary for gaming in any fashion--they're a luxury item and that's it. Asus is a brand preference, BenQ makes just as good, if not better, panels than Asus for a smaller price. And the hard drive I got him is a hybrid drive so all the benefits of an SSD like fast booting and loading times without having a separate storage drive.

The "bigger is better" mentality doesn't generally apply to PC budgets--for instance my $1200 PC can take on and beat the likes of a $1500+ PC. Just be smart when picking components and you won't have to spend too much :) 
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May 6, 2014 2:57:05 PM

s4in7 said:
Well those are nice if you have ample money to burn--I gave him all very highly-rated components and parts, and although the case is a budget case it's got features that much more expensive cases have like cable management cutouts and bottom mounted PSU. Mechanical keyboards are nice, but they are in NO WAY necessary for gaming in any fashion--they're a luxury item and that's it. Asus is a brand preference, BenQ makes just as good, if not better, panels than Asus for a smaller price. And the hard drive I got him is a hybrid drive so all the benefits of an SSD like fast booting and loading times without having a separate storage drive.

The "bigger is better" mentality doesn't generally apply to PC budgets--for instance my $1200 PC can take on and beat the likes of a $1500+ PC. Just be smart when picking components and you won't have to spend too much :) 


Hybrid drives will take the most used files and store them as RAM and make them faster. It won't increase boot time or load times in anything they are better than your standard HDD though. Like I said I added subjective things. When someone says sell me on a mouse keyboard and monitor those are all things that one normally will look at and make there own decision.

Oh I'm quite fine with BenQ if I was going for a 120hz or 140hz display I would go with them. I however like my IPS panel from ASUS very much :) 

And you could save a little more on the power supply his build only uses as pcpartpicker suggests 424w. Having a larger PSU will enable people to have a more quiet operating PSU. One may suggest that well he may want to expand however with newer computers the wattage required is going down not up.

I also didn't understand your choice of the 4670k when he said he wasn't going to overclock which would also beg the question the choice in the z87 chipset. Money can be saved still on this build that you have a good build but flawed in some areas to the requests of the poster.
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May 6, 2014 3:03:31 PM

"Money can be saved" and yet I came in way under you :) 

Also, do a little research before you state inaccuracies--hybrid drives DO increase boot speed and frequently accessed program load speeds. In all tests, Windows booted just a hair slower than SSDs and much faster than HDDs.

Good luck on the build OP, whatever you go with it'll be awesome!
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May 6, 2014 3:21:01 PM

s4in7 said:
"Money can be saved" and yet I came in way under you :) 

Also, do a little research before you state inaccuracies--hybrid drives DO increase boot speed and frequently accessed program load speeds. In all tests, Windows booted just a hair slower than SSDs and much faster than HDDs.

Good luck on the build OP, whatever you go with it'll be awesome!


As far as I understood it with the seagate hybrid drives it cached the frequently used items. Not quite the same thing as a SSD.

Quote:
Hybrid storage products monitor the data being read from the hard drive, and cache the most frequently accessed bits to the high-speed NAND flash memory. The data stored on the NAND will change over time, but once the most frequently accessed bits of data are stored on the flash memory, they will be served from the flash, resulting in SSD-like performance for your most-used files.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2025402/ssds-vs-hard-dri...

See it also helps to read what I wrote as well. I wrote that some of the components I have are subjective I went with what I felt I would go with or what I would suggest and as mouse, keyboard and display are all fairly subjective things as well as headphone/mic I think its fair to say you have to look at why my build was more expensive before judging the entire thing. My build is stronger then yours provided the requirements of the poster.

Here is your build with some tweaks which include no overclocking and a Power Supply that isn't utter overkill.

Also its okay to skimp out on the optical drive but it would help to let the poster know they would need a USB flash drive with the image of windows 8 or 7 and the version to install the OS onto the drive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£136.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£58.62 @ Dabs)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£53.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.08 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£239.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.04 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.12 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.96 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor (£119.99 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard (£18.00 @ CCL Computers)
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-M6880 Wired Laser Mouse (£9.48 @ Aria PC)
Headphones: Monoprice 8323 Headphones (£17.59 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £878.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-06 23:19 BST+0100)

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May 6, 2014 9:06:21 PM

+1 to bigshootr8's build; it seems very high quality, especially for the price.
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May 6, 2014 9:27:18 PM

Ive been noticing over the years how pc parts have been cheaper in the US but more expensive in the UK-seems like we're catching up with the yanks :D 
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May 7, 2014 5:56:21 AM

s4in7 said:
How are these builds so much more expensive?! I managed to get him a better video card, CPU, and power supply for $100's less!

EDITED: being nicer


Look at the difference in quality between the mouse, keyboard and headphones in your build and the other proposals. SSD('s) is/are also lacking,
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May 7, 2014 11:45:23 AM

Don't be a snob, all those parts are very highly rated--just look them up.

It doesn't have to cost a ton of money to be good, this is the greatest fallacy of this PC-building generation :/ 
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