Is this barebones kit alright for gaming?

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hey guys, i was thinking of getting this kit to save me some time from looking for parts around:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8936472&pagenumber=6&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=REVIEWS#CustomerReviewsBlock

in time ill get a dedicated gpu but for now the apu will suffice.
I don't play graphic intensive games only light gaming like Tera, Maplestory, Runescape and some video commentary editting. So , this build is good enough right?

Thanks for any input guys!
 

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My only problems with bundles of this nature is that fact that of course people are trying to make money (this I don't have a problem with it's the way the world works!) but in an effort to make money they invariably cut corners.

So to highlight my 'issues' with that package:

I'm assuming from the picture that is 1x stick of 8gb RAM. So it will only be running in single channel, really for 8gb setup you want 2x4gb of RAM to run in dual channel. Also faster RAM speeds benefit AMD Apu's, 1600mhz is ok but if I was assembling the build myself I would go for 1866mhz.

When it says 450w PSU it will be an awful PSU that if bought separately will cost about 10-15$ <--- this is my big issue

Basically if I was trying to build a budget conscious machine I could use those parts, but not with that RAM and with a decent power supply... so in short you could probably build that buying the components yourself similar money but get better parts.

I don't have a specific issue with that board, or the HDD but you need to be aware that they are the cheapest available. So this may sway your decision if you are looking for a bargain.
 

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The PSU would probably worry me the most. Definitely better to run RAM in dual channel, but not a must. Doubtful there will be a noticeable difference. And you can always add another 8GB stick later when funds allow.

What's your total budget and what all do you need?
 

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Hi, thanks for the input. I agree the psu needs replacing along with the ram and i dont even need that cdrw. Im thinking just buying that barebone kit and just replacing the psu and in time the ram whenever ever it goes on sale. I found totalling the parts each, just the cpu, motherboard, ram and harddrive totaled to $315 without the psu and the case. So iinstead of buying part by part I could buy the barebone and have money left over to replace the psu with a bronze+ and maybe the case haha. Also i just checked and the ram is 2x4gb. idk why they dont specify it
 

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Yea i would probably replace the psu with a Corsair CX430 only for $40 and the ram with the bundle is 2x4gb. My budget is 400. Id like to keep it below if possible so i can have some left over $$ to buy a dedicated gpu
 

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Anything outside the pc keyboards, monitor etc, I have already. I can reuse my 500gb hard drive but another 500gb would be nice for all my video editing. The rest of my parts are too old. I have a 2x2gb ddr2 ram, evga 750i motherboard, and an old computer case with a 500w psu and 9500gt force video card
 

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For what you want I would be looking more to something like this

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($88.32 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($52.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.77 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $327.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
 

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OK, although I did mention above I'm trying not to offend when I put this rather steer you in the correct direction.

What I am trying to say is no, the components in that barebones kit are not ideal. I totally understand the perspective if that is around your budget. I'm not sure how much PC building you do but if you want to build a desktop that is going to work correctly after you have assembled it you need to spend the money in the correct places.

I struggle to understand the use of the AMD A series APU's for the most part, if you are even semi interested in gaming while in indy games they are at best acceptable if you throw something even remotely graphics intensive at it you will be ultimately disappointed. They also sort of make no sense as a media machine, they use too much power v's the Intel and although the Intel graphics processor is nowhere near as good in Benchmarks and in light gaming if you are using it for a media machine does that even matter so long as it plays back HD video?

I'm not bashing AMD, as I use a mix of processors at home and I think price v's performance AMD wins almost all the time.

The 750k Athlon is a superior gaming processor when combined with a discreet graphics card. It also has superior raw processing power for performing any other task. It's not a compromise like an A series APU but you can use the same cheap motherboards (FM2) and purchase price if anything is less!

As for the power supply. I very strongly advise you to not use that 450w power supply in that barebones kit. Numerous posts are on Tom's almost daily with people complaining about unstable machines and so often the solution is replacing the power supply. The power supply is the most overlooked, but possible one of the most important purchases you can make when building a computer. Invest in a quality power supply it will payback dividends.

You could even save money in the short term by purchasing 1x4gb RAM stick and upgrade at a later date as for the applications you are currently using 4gb would be more than enough.
 

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Aha no offence taken. I was planning to change the psu to a 450 corsair bronze+ and a dedicated sapphire 7770 if i decide to get that barebones since it already comes with a case a an hdd, i wouldnt have to spend anymore on those. I was looking at the 750k at first before the 6800k whichis good. The 750k is similar to the amd 5800k apu which i also like. I totalled it to the most affordable comparing the parts you suggested and mine. It came out to yours being 432 from added with a hdd, pc case, and psu and mine to 430 with the addition of a psu and a graphics card. So basically almost the same. I just chose 6800k because its a newer model to the 750k. plus the total is really almost the same haha