Notebook works bad when transfering files

Nikola95o · May 8, 2014

Hello everyone,
My notebook ASUS X550VC works very bad when transfering some files or installing a big software or a game. In general it can not be used. And when starting it, it need a lot of time to start and run startup apps. I'm running optimizers and defragmenters 3 days a week. It lags while using some programs or games. I received notification while when I played the game about low RAM. What can be wrong? How to fix that lag ? I thinked it might be low RAM or slow HDD(or both). I m thinking to change 1 of that because i dont have money for both (SSD of 120 gb for a system or RAM of 8gb 1600(max for this notebook)). Tell me if u need more informations.I bought it in October 2013. Sorry for if i have grammatical errors, I don't know english very well. Thanks!

My specs:
Intel Core i5 3230m 2.6 (turbo 3.2)
4GB DDR3 1600MHz
Nvidia GeForce 720m
750GB 5400rpm HDD
Windows 7 SP1 with all updates

lonewolf7 · May 8, 2014

Hi, what is your OS ? WIN 7 32 bits or 64 bits ? If its a 32 bits OS then there's no need to upgrade RAM, if its a 64 bits OS then you can upgrade the RAM to 8 GB.

There is a minimal difference in speed between a 5400rpm and 7200rpm drive, so I think that's not the problem. Yes you can get a SSD as Boot Device if you wish, that will speedup the booting time, and the programs will open faster, but games will not be benefited by SSD.

Lags can happen with some graphics intensive games, as your GPU is not so powerful.

What I think is your OS got corrupted somehow and giving you those troubles. First try to do a format and install a fresh OS, it might solve your problem.

Don't forget to backup your important stuff before you do format. And do you have a Bootable installation media(DVD/USB) ?

You can check your HDD for errors/SMART with the help of vendors diagnostics tool or with :

http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

You can check your RAM with : http://www.memtest.org/

If you don't have a installation DVD/USB, I will help you to get one. Good luck.

Nikola95o · May 8, 2014

Hi @lonewolf7 thanks for reply

I have 64bit windows 7 in dualboot with ubuntu 14.04(my partitions are mess). It was hapening and on windows 7 fresh install when i try to transfer files between partitions or on USB3.0 stick. I will check hdd and ram now

Nikola95o · May 9, 2014

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CrystalDiskInfo 6.1.12 (C) 2008-2014 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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OS : Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
Date : 2014/05/08 21:24:30

-- Controller Map ----------------------------------------------------------
+ Intel(R) 7 Series Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller [ATA]
- HGST HTS541075A9E680 SCSI Disk Device
- Slimtype DVD A DA8A5SH SCSI CdRom Device

-- Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
(1) HGST HTS541075A9E680 : 750.1 GB [0/0/0, pd1]

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(1) HGST HTS541075A9E680
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Model : HGST HTS541075A9E680
Firmware : JA2OA560
Serial Number : J841017KKWS6LM
Disk Size : 750.1 GB (8.4/137.4/750.1/750.1)
Buffer Size : 8192 KB
Queue Depth : 32
# of Sectors : 1465149168
Rotation Rate : 5400 RPM
Interface : Serial ATA
Major Version : ATA8-ACS
Minor Version : ATA8-ACS version 6
Transfer Mode : SATA/600 | SATA/600
Power On Hours : 3049 hours
Power On Count : 774 count
Temperature : 29 C (84 F)
Health Status : Good
Features : S.M.A.R.T., APM, 48bit LBA, NCQ
APM Level : 4001h [ON]
AAM Level : ----

-- S.M.A.R.T. --------------------------------------------------------------
ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name
01 100 100 _62 000000000000 Read Error Rate
02 100 100 _40 000000000000 Throughput Performance
03 176 176 _33 001200000001 Spin-Up Time
04 _97 _97 __0 0000000016EA Start/Stop Count
05 100 100 __5 000000000000 Reallocated Sectors Count
07 100 100 _67 000000000000 Seek Error Rate
08 100 100 _40 000000000000 Seek Time Performance
09 _94 _94 __0 000000000BE9 Power-On Hours
0A 100 100 _60 000000000000 Spin Retry Count
0C 100 100 __0 000000000306 Power Cycle Count
BF 100 100 __0 000000000000 G-Sense Error Rate
C0 100 100 __0 000000000033 Power-off Retract Count
C1 _95 _95 __0 00000000E30B Load/Unload Cycle Count
C2 206 206 __0 0029000A001D Temperature
C4 100 100 __0 000000000000 Reallocation Event Count
C5 100 100 __0 000000000000 Current Pending Sector Count
C6 100 100 __0 000000000000 Uncorrectable Sector Count
C7 200 200 __0 000000000000 UltraDMA CRC Error Count
DF 100 100 __0 000000000000 Load/Unload Retry Count

-- IDENTIFY_DEVICE ---------------------------------------------------------
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
000: 045A 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000
010: 2020 2020 2020 4A38 3431 3031 374B 4B57 5336 4C4D
020: 0003 4000 0004 4A41 324F 4135 3630 4847 5354 2048
030: 5453 3534 3130 3735 4139 4536 3830 2020 2020 2020
040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8010 4000 2F00
050: 4000 0200 0200 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 0110
060: FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 0000
070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 170E 0006 005E 004C
080: 01FC 0028 746B 7D69 6163 7469 BC49 6163 207F 0069
090: 006A 4001 FFFE 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
100: 66F0 5754 0000 0000 0000 0000 6003 826C 5000 CCA6
110: C6F6 E3AB 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 401C
120: 401C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 000B
130: 0000 0000 2182 1CF1 FA00 0000 4000 2000 0009 0000
140: 0000 070A 0809 070A 070B 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
150: 0000 0003 3133 4235 0000 2804 0000 5DBD 2388 8000
160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0003 0000
170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
180: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
190: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
200: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 003D 0000 0000 4000
210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1518 0000 0000
220: 0000 0000 101F 0021 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 03E0 0000 0000 0000 0000
240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 EDA5

-- SMART_READ_DATA ---------------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 0B 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 05
010: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 07 00 B0 B0 01
020: 00 00 00 12 00 00 04 12 00 61 61 EA 16 00 00 00
030: 00 00 05 33 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 0B
040: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 05 00 64 64 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 12 00 5E 5E E9 0B 00 00 00
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0C0: 00 00 C6 08 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 0A
0D0: 00 C8 C8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DF 0A 00 64 64 00
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150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2D 00 01 5B
170: 03 00 01 00 02 D3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 66

-- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ----------------------------------------------------
+0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
000: 10 00 01 3E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 28
010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 21 00 00 00 00
020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
030: 00 00 05 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 43
040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 28 00 00 00 00
050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
060: 00 00 0A 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 00
070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 BF 00 00 00 00 00
080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 00 00 00 00 00
0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0: 00 00 C6 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 00
0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 DF 00 00 00 00 00
0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
150: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 89

Here is hdd chech, and memtest did't show any error.

lonewolf7 · May 9, 2014

Ok, your HDD and RAM seems to be in perfect condition.

How did you setup your WIN 7 installation in BIOS ? Is it IDE or AHCI for SATA ?

Do a format for both OS's and clean install both. First install the Linux then WIN 7, and install the correct drivers from vendors(ASUS) site.

See how it goes, if the problem persists then you can add more RAM.

Nikola95o · May 10, 2014

I installed in AHCI mode and MBR partition table. Why to install 1st linux and then windows 7 ?

I will reinstall when backup important files

I thought now to install Windows 8.1 and then Ubuntu 14.04 in GPT partition table. What do you think about that ?

lonewolf7 · May 10, 2014

This is a rule of thumb to install non-win OS first then a win OS, this way the win OS can handle the boot manager for a dual OS with non-win setup perfectly.

I personally don't like win 8 or 8.1 for the unfriendly interface, but its your choice. First install Ubuntu then install win 8.1.

GPT partition table are for HDD's which are larger than 2.2 TB in size, not for a 750GB HDD. You will be fine with MBR/NTFS. You can also try IDE mode for SATA.

Nikola95o · May 10, 2014

With previous win8.1 install i was in GPT and it was the same like now. Why you think that it would be better with IDE ? I read everywhere that AHCI is better and faster

I've tried once UEFI mode 1.linux then windows8 (when installing as UEFI it is automatically installed in GPT) but windows 8 doesn't seem to recognize ubuntu. Then i would start liveUSB ubuntu and repair GRUB, after that it would recognize windows 8 and start with GRUB2 menu. I installed this one i'm using right now 1.win then ubuntu, but when needed to install ubuntu it didn't recognized windows7 and all partitions, so I needed to use FixPart to delete old partition table layer, because ubuntu was confused. And every time I install windows 7/8.1 with/withot ubuntu it would freeze for 1-5s after every 5s when transfering file, or after more time it would be lagy while surfing or installing some apps. I play Thief 2014 now and it seems to work fine without lags in low/medium setting(i've tested notebook on "Can I Run It" and it said that my notebook is behind minimum) . But game like Sims 3 with all expansions work fine in start, but after some time of playing it needs several minutes just to start a game and in gameplay it freezez sometimes(its not GPU).And when playing Sims 3 notebook is very hot, and sometimes just on sims 3 it shows low RAM, and 2-3 times it showed a bluescreen. So i'm asking you what is better to replace? HDD with SSD or 4GB with 8GB of RAM ? It's not a bad install or something like that (i think)

lonewolf7 · May 10, 2014

As I said earlier, games will not benefit with a SSD, but startup and programs will. So get more RAM.

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